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Title: 7.00 era!
Post by: bookeyize on September 25, 2021, 23:15: is it possible,can we somehow fight to switch evry1 at 7.00 fuck the 6.9 allready the map is not worth at all,can this community somehow for the least time become better and do transition to new map!?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: begin on September 26, 2021, 10:17: You have my full support, 6.90 sucks in so many ways, for instance couriers charged, wards charged, lot of bugs
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: HowTo... on September 26, 2021, 20:12: dunno why forcing ppl into that. You are free to play v7 only and let others to play v6 when preferred. The only reason I can see is that you are lacking ppl in your v7 as some portion sticks to v6, and therefore lobbies take longer to fill, especially in certain times of the day.
Well I can tell you for sure, that some ppl will leave if v7 is enforced, and Im one of them.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: euyk on September 27, 2021, 15:13: Hello,

To be honest, i don't believe you would or any of them, all of those 6,9 players would accualy become salty and then start playing new versions anyways.

At the beggining i didn't like 7.00 much,it's new, it's different, it's not bad, generally when i look back i wouldn't play 6.9 anymore i tried couple times and its just old, outdated, buged and such, there is always option to make 6.9 as a custom map and keep dota updated.
In Dota2 there are also people complaining about new patches but then they just move on and play it anyways. Just because here there is that option you can still play 6.9 people won't move on to new maps, accept it and they rather stay in something old and what they know.

Official site where you getting maps d1stats.ru when u visit the website there is saying... " Growing further. Play updated & improved DotA maps.
Make your choice and play the DotA we know and love. Leave the buggy, messy and outdated map by IceFrog behind. "

And it is so true, like anyways it is about everyones consideration, just something to think about.

Best reggards PUDDLE
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: F1AME- on September 27, 2021, 16:00: Quote from: bookeyize on September 25, 2021, 23:15
is it possible,can we somehow fight to switch evry1 at 7.00 fuck the 6.9 allready the map is not worth at all,can this community somehow for the least time become better and do transition to new map!?
fucking didnt belive that rgc was better than lagabuse i play there for 1 month and it fucking is they stuck in time here like iccup but worst with that unbalanced map its same shit its boring now 6.9
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: FataLity- on September 27, 2021, 17:39: Quote from: euyk on September 27, 2021, 15:13
Hello,

To be honest, i don't believe you would or any of them, all of those 6,9 players would accualy become salty and then start playing new versions anyways.

At the beggining i didn't like 7.00 much,it's new, it's different, it's not bad, generally when i look back i wouldn't play 6.9 anymore i tried couple times and its just old, outdated, buged and such, there is always option to make 6.9 as a custom map and keep dota updated.
In Dota2 there are also people complaining about new patches but then they just move on and play it anyways. Just because here there is that option you can still play 6.9 people won't move on to new maps, accept it and they rather stay in something old and what they know.

Official site where you getting maps d1stats.ru when u visit the website there is saying... " Growing further. Play updated & improved DotA maps.
Make your choice and play the DotA we know and love. Leave the buggy, messy and outdated map by IceFrog behind. "

And it is so true, like anyways it is about everyones consideration, just something to think about.

Best reggards PUDDLE
:y:
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on September 27, 2021, 18:01: The 'top 10' ladder literally never looked this bad, guess why is that? Lagabuse has reached its lowest point in history and it's all downhill from here on out babies
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on September 27, 2021, 18:11: Something is totally off yes, it says @No_LiFeR_xD is at 11
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: hsakuragi on September 27, 2021, 21:21: everyone should be able to play the version they want,
I'll go play dota 2 instead of v7 its simple.
btw i check top 30 players
23-v6 player,7 version 7 player here your answer :)
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: bookeyize on September 27, 2021, 21:39: What top of 30 players "the top of actually what" I can tell you 1 thing every1 who decides to play only 6.9 is not good at dota and never was, I m telling you that with full rights since i ruined /destroyed evry single of them in that 6.9 games, good and better players made transition to 7.00...that is saying everything about this community, the problem is we need only 1 map so community actually should be one united thing, like this generally is not good.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: bookeyize on September 27, 2021, 21:40: Well said.

To be honest, i don't believe you would or any of them, all of those 6,9 players would accualy become salty and then start playing new versions anyways.

At the beggining i didn't like 7.00 much,it's new, it's different, it's not bad, generally when i look back i wouldn't play 6.9 anymore i tried couple times and its just old, outdated, buged and such, there is always option to make 6.9 as a custom map and keep dota updated.
In Dota2 there are also people complaining about new patches but then they just move on and play it anyways. Just because here there is that option you can still play 6.9 people won't move on to new maps, accept it and they rather stay in something old and what they know.

Official site where you getting maps d1stats.ru when u visit the website there is saying... " Growing further. Play updated & improved DotA maps.
Make your choice and play the DotA we know and love. Leave the buggy, messy and outdated map by IceFrog behind. "

And it is so true, like anyways it is about everyones consideration, just something to think about.

Best reggards PUDDLE
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Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: hsakuragi on September 27, 2021, 23:00: last time i looked i was immortal in dota 2 (1 years ago). Why i came here bec of i didnt like new patch i want to play old version you should understand that. Anyway, there are things that i want in the old version of course. Example spirit vessel,kaya as a item and visages bird too strong bla bla but I'm having more fun than the new version.
-bazarci-
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on September 27, 2021, 23:55: There was already statistics posted by cen that around 50% of games played are 6.9

Ofc i think that its stupid to stick to old bugged version. Idk why but same discussions was every time the map was updated. Funny how people used to say "nooo, we dont want 6.9, keep 6.83 etc) and now same people are saying this about 7.00 and 6.9. If you think 6.9 is not bugged then let me give you example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqjsTtZ4EV0

Generally im sure that if there will be only new map we will see the same picture as always:

(https://i.ibb.co/tBCMH1W/draco.png)

As about cryers, they will be always no matter what you do and which map set.

Speaking about statistics, whatit looks like now? @cen
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on September 28, 2021, 05:29: Haha, lol you guys are crying because the majority of the players prefer to play v6, instead of that cheap copy of dota2(v7), and you can't find players to play with until like midnight lol.
Grow the fuck up and let everyone decide what they want to play.
Also, if you prefer v7 why don't you just move on even more, and play Dota2. Its much more better in every aspect, but you are still stuck here.
As someone mentioned before, a lot of players will simply stop playing here, and just move on to dota2, or stop playing at all.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: begin on September 28, 2021, 14:09: Deleted, if repeat again you will be banned a week.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: FataLity- on September 28, 2021, 17:59: Quote from: begin on September 28, 2021, 14:09
Deleted, if repeat again you will be banned a week.
Did anyone manage to read Im curious
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on September 28, 2021, 18:32: Lagabuse transparency at its finest
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: begin on September 28, 2021, 19:37: Sorry boys my post was edited by infamous 6/9/4 ursa

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6416841
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: euyk on September 28, 2021, 20:27: Hello again,

we can always talk about either 6,9 is played more or which version is better,
but simply the way it is done now doesn't help community on lagabuse. This system removes any competition, also the fact you guys mentioned about top 30 players and over 20 are 6,9, those players would never made it into top 30 since majority of good players (former private league "ss" players) swaped to RGC because they updated to 7,0 and keep updating and it took like 6 months before 7,0 got here, so no wonder.
You guys are right there is easy solution to move on to Dota 2 or to another platform like RGC, but me personaly i like Dota 1 and also i prefer technical part of this server over RGC, that is why i play here.
Also you are right at certain hours it's impossible to create 7,03 version but also 6,9 , from my own experience, couple days ago i created 7,03 game and had 5 players at lobby continuously there was 6,9 lobby with like 4 or 5 players as well,
and ofcourse they went to 6,9 either they are more familiar with or it's a sign they don't care much what version they play.
To consider you can always make 6,9 version unranked or custom and keep updating.
As a conclusion i would say i don't own the server and it's not up to me to decide.
I am just trying to be a voice of reason here, because current situation doesn't help this server at all.

Best regards PUDDLE
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on September 28, 2021, 20:40: retards advocating for 'oldschool dota' but keeps playing 6.9

KEEP TELLING YOURSELVES YOU ARE PLAYING OLDSCHOOL DOTA, fucking monkeys
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on September 28, 2021, 21:36: Bring back 6.83, Corristo - assemble the circus and lead the way
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: grga_man on September 28, 2021, 21:37: Quote from: MarvinJunior on September 28, 2021, 20:40
retards advocating for 'oldschool dota' but keeps playing 6.9

KEEP TELLING YOURSELVES YOU ARE PLAYING OLDSCHOOL DOTA, fucking monkeys

You guys triggered @MarvinJunior , this topic went too far..
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cen on September 28, 2021, 21:43: I really like this topic. Current stats are 59.5% of games are v6 and 40.5% are v7. This ratio has not really changed much after the split. So this is why I am personally hesitant to kill off v6.

Maybe we could use some new world order government tactics, if you are unvaxxed you can't go to the restaurant, same way we give less PSR to v6 players and slowly force them to vaxx with Sputnik 7.

Paging mr. claudiu to give opinion
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on September 28, 2021, 22:06: Cen are you drunk or something? :D
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on September 29, 2021, 01:04: Quote
created 7,03 game and had 5 players at lobby continuously there was 6,9 lobby with like 4 or 5 players as well,
and ofcourse they went to 6,9 either they are more familiar with or it's a sign they don't care much what version they play

I think thats the case, most people just join what they see. Also 6.9 players never join 7.00 but 7.00 players can join 6.9 thats why they went there.

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To consider you can always make 6,9 version unranked or custom and keep updating

Nobody will play if its unranked, they all play for psr/stats

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good players (former private league "ss" players)

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KEEP TELLING YOURSELVES YOU ARE PLAYING OLDSCHOOL DOTA, fucking monkeys

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we give less PSR to v6 players and slowly force them to vaxx with Sputnik 7.

This topic is becoming more and more funny

(https://www.swp.de/imgs/07/8/3/4/9/2/2/7/1/tok_9a03ff3100063d64b6a5766978bd5cbb/w985_h554_x492_y306_2021-04-29_10_45_21-HSV_Fan_spricht_Klartext_-_YouTube-728647c9efde5a36.png)
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: begin on September 29, 2021, 08:51: I recall a year back myself also hating 7 because there were some more radical changes than in former versions, which meant when you first played it you got raped like a rat. But after 20+ games I realized it is way better, way more balanced, way more interesting with new heroes and items and aghas and least but not last it promotes teamplay by those bounty runes which deal gold to entire team. Just practice is what matters and transit to 7 brought more changes than ever before so you need to play couple more games to get to used to it. I personally don't know anyone who preferred 6.9 after having played 7 for a while. Also shark4k is a peasant if you didn't notice.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: matoput on September 29, 2021, 11:13: 6.9 is just missing some upg (add items /spells /heroes)and Fix bugs and it could be fine for all sometimes i am playing 7 but if i want to play 7 i can play also dota2. Lovec
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on September 29, 2021, 12:30: if I want to play cs go I will play valorant. Thats why I stick to cs1.1
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: hsakuragi on September 29, 2021, 12:46: I want to add one more thing
v7 game duration and average last hits too much. Everyone farms in the area on their own side of the river and then fights(bec of creeps give low gold,wards free,
map difference is suitable for this) ,this is very boring.This way I can better explain the obvious difference between the two versions. You can check games too. Anyway v7 (boring) v6 (excited,bugged).
v7 game
1-https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6418484
2-https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419242
v6 game
1-https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419254
2-https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419211
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: lolonomo on September 29, 2021, 14:06: Server should had go with v7 when they updated map but now it's late to stay with v7 only since there are lot of v6 players and they will stay against it again, server already lost many players during v6-7 pool, with having v7 only as ladder map will likely lost more players from server so it's better to keep both maps as there will be lot of drama on forum if you remove v6

6.90 doesn't even close to classic DotA since talent system made many changes on gameplay and made some games very harder to comeback and ending games earlier since some talents are way better than +20 stats which it doesn't suit for old school, i don't want to mention bugs such as tuskar one shot and visage's strong birds

So if you want to play true classic DotA then i suggest you to play 6.83d over 6.90

Quote from: hsakuragi on September 29, 2021, 12:46
I want to add one more thing
v7 game duration and average last hits too much. Everyone farms in the area on their own side of the river and then fights(bec of creeps give low gold,wards free,
map difference is suitable for this) ,this is very boring.This way I can better explain the obvious difference between the two versions. You can check games too. Anyway v7 (boring) v6 (excited,bugged).
v7 game
1-https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6418484
2-https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419242
v6 game
1-https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419254
2-https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419211

How that games are excited to destroying enemy team hardly over letting any chances to comeback? Atleast enemy team gave more efforts at v7 games since games took more time
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on September 29, 2021, 14:10: What im sure of is that 7.00 has higher requirements for skill because last hits and experience there matter much more. In 6.9 you can stay afk on lane and get not much less exp/gold than someone who is farming. Also bounties often force fights and lower gold in jungle discourages afk farming.

Now the problem is that the majority of players here dont want to become better, they want to play afk dota while drinking beer and eating chips. Ofc its much harder in 7.00.

Idk, i can give 1000 boring 6.9 games but 1000 boring 7.00 games too. Or quality 7.00 games:
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419274
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419277

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if I want to play cs go I will play valorant. Thats why I stick to cs1.1

Agree
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: hsakuragi on September 29, 2021, 14:47: How that games are excited to destroying enemy team hardly over letting any chances to comeback? Atleast enemy team gave more efforts at v7 games since games took more time

I don't agree with what you're saying
v7 they all play for late game.Finishing early in a balanced match is not an option on this map. (Bec def for late easier than v6)
So everyone take high gold per minute heroes for faster farm (they cant farm fast btw bec of low gold values)
+as a result, limited hero options and long gameplay get very boring
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v6 if you have early mid game heroes you can try to finish fast
example (balanced match)
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6419159

if you have late heroes you try to hold early mid game. (v6,v7)
((its not about effort or player types))
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on September 29, 2021, 15:19: since you guys reminded me;

I'll make my daily request - (not metal slug or RETOarch this time) Si?

Lets make a gatherment and play old patch with old map. AND have the fun once we had with sir GHOST Si?

ps. possible to play current map too but it requires gatherment again. Si?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on September 29, 2021, 19:53: Quote from: matoput on September 29, 2021, 11:13
6.9 is just missing some upg (add items /spells /heroes)and Fix bugs and it could be fine for all sometimes i am playing 7 but if i want to play 7 i can play also dota2. Lovec

HAHAHAHAHAHA, MISSING SOME UPG, YOU REFUSE TO PLAY THE UPGRADED VERSION YOU DUMB RAT
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on September 29, 2021, 20:05: I see 2 type of players here:

1) Screeching v7 nazis, demanding the total remove of v6, so they can fill their empty lobbies.

2) v6 players, who mind their own fucking business, and having fun playing dota, without demanding anything from anyone.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Confused-o_O- on September 29, 2021, 20:38: I am one of those who play only v6 and I do not mind if admins would decide to move to v7 only. I would not play v7 at this server, but the waiting time is getting too long for both versions so I believe that something should be done about it, otherwise you might lose players from both versions anyway.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on September 29, 2021, 21:03: @MarvinJunior corristo and mordor are the same person, right? The resemblance is quite uncanny
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on September 30, 2021, 08:34: Happy, you must be that guy in the school, who is entertaining the lower grader girls with ''funny'' jokes right? :D
Imagine thinking being funny on dotka server 2021 :D
You fired your jokes, it was very funny much wow, big clap, you did what the country asked you to do. You really can't be any smarter now. I really mean it.
I mean, I'm seriously shocked by your sense of humor... I mean, I've never ever read anyone even approaching your intellect on any forum. Seriously! I'm not even being sarcastic!!!!
Please, if you have any more such good jokes, don't hesitate. The poor people of this forum (all 20 who are left), needs this kind of ''humor'' more than ever!
Come on Happy, but please, your next joke on me, be a really good one. OK?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on September 30, 2021, 10:27: Quote from: Corristo on September 30, 2021, 08:34
Happy, you must be that guy in the school, who is entertaining the lower grader girls with ''funny'' jokes right? :D
Imagine thinking being funny on dotka server 2021 :D
You fired your jokes, it was very funny much wow, big clap, you did what the country asked you to do. You really can't be any smarter now. I really mean it.
I mean, I'm seriously shocked by your sense of humor... I mean, I've never ever read anyone even approaching your intellect on any forum. Seriously! I'm not even being sarcastic!!!!
Please, if you have any more such good jokes, don't hesitate. The poor people of this forum (all 20 who are left), needs this kind of ''humor'' more than ever!
Come on Happy, but please, your next joke on me, be a really good one. OK?

Yes
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: bookeyize on September 30, 2021, 11:10: Generally yes, verry nice conversation except for some ppl who are missing the point of view and main theme...
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: begin on September 30, 2021, 12:12: Quote from: Confused-o_O- on September 29, 2021, 20:38
I am one of those who play only v6 and I do not mind if admins would decide to move to v7 only. I would not play v7 at this server, but the waiting time is getting too long for both versions so I believe that something should be done about it, otherwise you might lose players from both versions anyway.
This one got a point.

Basically the simplest way to do is make the bot host just the latest version and automatically update it whenever a newer version comes out without asking random peasants if they like this update or not. Same like it goes on other prominent platforms. Same like it used to go here in the past.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on September 30, 2021, 13:13: But nobody is holding you back from playing v7. What is your problem then?
Why does it bother you, if some players want to play v6?
I really don't understand.

What you really want, is to FORCE everyone to play ONLY v7, because you can't fill your lobbies.

Imagine if you would HAVE to buy youtube premium, just because youtube WANTS it, regardless of what you want.
Pathetic players.

A viable solution would be, to find a mapmaker, who can actually improove/fix the problems of v6. And keep up the improovements. Like bringing in new heroes, but without forcing the v7 shits down on players throats.
Too bad there is no alternative to these mad russkies, and only they are working on dota1.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AntlermanXXL on September 30, 2021, 13:23: By the way, 6.74c was the map i loved and the map i consider as classic enough, oldschool map
Next maps were in somewhat mix between dota2 trends and dota1 classics, and then Icefrog finally released that completely ruined map with memory leak for Leoric

A wild deer appeared out of the sudden
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: grga_man on September 30, 2021, 13:47: Quote from: Corristo on September 30, 2021, 13:13
But nobody is holding you back from playing v7. What is your problem then?
Why does it bother you, if some players want to play v6?
I really don't understand.

What you really want, is to FORCE everyone to play ONLY v7, because you can't fill your lobbies.

Imagine if you would HAVE to buy youtube premium, just because youtube WANTS it, regardless of what you want.
Pathetic players.

A viable solution would be, to find a mapmaker, who can actually improove/fix the problems of v6. And keep up the improovements. Like bringing in new heroes, but without forcing the v7 shits down on players throats.
Too bad there is no alternative to these mad russkies, and only they are working on dota1.

Well, why you accept v6.9 as "dota 1" when you have that extra tp slot, talents, bounty (this all things are from d2, why you didnt complain when we swap from v6.84 to v6.9)
Answer is because terrain has a slight change, but changing terrain exists like forever, look old dota maps and v6 and you will see difference. So basicly only reason you dont want to play v7 because terrain changed more radicaly so from my point of view, 1 changement is all it takes you make so drama about this 2 versions.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AntlermanXXL on September 30, 2021, 13:49: Quote from: grga_man on September 30, 2021, 13:47
Well, why you accept v6.9 as "dota 1" when you have that extra tp slot, talents, bounty (this all things are from d2, why you didnt complain when we swap from v6.84 to v6.9)
Answer is because terrain has a slight change, but changing terrain exists like forever, look old dota maps and v6 and you will see difference. So basicly only reason you dont want to play v7 because terrain changed more radicaly so from my point of view, 1 changement is all it takes you make so drama about this 2 versions.
Some people just want environment to be comfortable with their low effort way of doing things
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Confused-o_O- on September 30, 2021, 14:36: Quote from: grga_man on September 30, 2021, 13:47
Quote from: Corristo on September 30, 2021, 13:13
But nobody is holding you back from playing v7. What is your problem then?
Why does it bother you, if some players want to play v6?
I really don't understand.

What you really want, is to FORCE everyone to play ONLY v7, because you can't fill your lobbies.

Imagine if you would HAVE to buy youtube premium, just because youtube WANTS it, regardless of what you want.
Pathetic players.

A viable solution would be, to find a mapmaker, who can actually improove/fix the problems of v6. And keep up the improovements. Like bringing in new heroes, but without forcing the v7 shits down on players throats.
Too bad there is no alternative to these mad russkies, and only they are working on dota1.

Well, why you accept v6.9 as "dota 1" when you have that extra tp slot, talents, bounty (this all things are from d2, why you didnt complain when we swap from v6.84 to v6.9)
Answer is because terrain has a slight change, but changing terrain exists like forever, look old dota maps and v6 and you will see difference. So basicly only reason you dont want to play v7 because terrain changed more radicaly so from my point of view, 1 changement is all it takes you make so drama about this 2 versions.

are you serious or just talking out of your ass? Most of what you just wrote is wrong, inaccurate, or misleading. Go check how the map looked and what was changed or added. And check maps way before 6.84 (when Roshan was near scourge middle tower), since you lack a clue how the map changed.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on September 30, 2021, 17:40: Lol grga. Just check again the changelog.
Deer, i guess you are talking about v7 players right? :)

I never said i was against improoving dota1. I always welcomed newer versions, even talents.it gave a new taste, and it was a good improovement.

BUT, over the years of changes to come to dota, v7 is the first time i complained. This is just too much dota2 in my opinion , and it destroyed the classical rustic feeling of dota1.

I respect your opinion if you prefer and want to play dota2 with low graphics of warcraft3 for whatever reason, instead of going to play proper dota2. I dont care.

I just ask you to respect what the majority wants on this server, and let us play v6.

It would be great to form a team with some mapmakers , and continue editing v6 as well.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Deynro on September 30, 2021, 18:00: In my perspective, the solution of this is v6 being unranked.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: bookeyize on September 30, 2021, 18:25: How you can't accept and understand there is no hope anymore for v6, I dont worry for ppl like Corristo they are noobs, but some1 like you should think better mister confused, 6.9 is to much bugged and unbalanced, full of useless heroes and manny bad things, you cant improve that... You cant make fucking granny to be young beauty girl.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: begin on September 30, 2021, 23:12: When you are drunk and high enough, you might smash a granny, same goes to playing v6.9
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Confused-o_O- on October 01, 2021, 00:02: Quote from: bookeyize on September 30, 2021, 18:25
How you can't accept and understand there is no hope anymore for v6, I dont worry for ppl like Corristo they are noobs, but some1 like you should think better mister confused, 6.9 is to much bugged and unbalanced, full of useless heroes and manny bad things, you cant improve that... You cant make fucking granny to be young beauty girl.

well, if you would look at my first post on this topic you would see that I do not put any hope into 6.9 and I do not mind letting it go since there is no future for that version. Unlike 6.83 that has a community backing it up.

Still, you should understand that not all people are choosing a game for balance or complexity, same as not all players are playing just for a win. There are many reasons at the same time that influence our decisions and to pick few logical ones and call them right or wrong is outdated as well. Humans are emotional and decisions are based on emotions, if we managed to connect them with logic it is good but not the main objective.

For example: in the 6.8 version, one of my favorite heroes was Tiny and I played him a lot. At 6.9 they changed only the model and I stopped playing that hero because it did not felt the same. You can not put value in this argument, but it is true nonetheless.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on October 01, 2021, 22:23: Quote from: AntlermanXXL on September 30, 2021, 13:23
By the way, 6.74c was the map i loved and the map i consider as classic enough, oldschool map
Next maps were in somewhat mix between dota2 trends and dota1 classics, and then Icefrog finally released that completely ruined map with memory leak for Leoric

A wild deer appeared out of the sudden
yes, thats what I mean !
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on October 01, 2021, 22:59: As always no arguments except "i dont like new map because i think its not real dota"

Assuming 6.9 is real dota

Players: "Someone, please update 6.9 map"
Dracolich: *updates*
Players: "NOOOO, not real dota"

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865678160943251466/893527211850727545/760245868543737897.png)

A wild deer appeared out of the season and told the truth
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: tehnika8x8 on October 02, 2021, 02:57: Inside everything I see a lot of "Jeff Bezos" here, kek
https://youtu.be/7_EeCkHs-e0
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on October 10, 2021, 15:39: Quote from: MarvinJunior on September 27, 2021, 18:11
Something is totally off yes, it says @No_LiFeR_xD is at 11

@MarvinJunior Road to #1
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cen on October 10, 2021, 16:33: It is entirely possible we could axe v6 at the end of the year. People should start learning v7, it's really not that different..
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: begin on October 10, 2021, 17:39: Quote from: cen on October 10, 2021, 16:33
It is entirely possible we could axe v6 at the end of the year. People should start learning v7, it's really not that different..
Yeah after 20 games of v7 they won't look back
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on October 10, 2021, 18:42: Quote from: cen on October 10, 2021, 16:33
It is entirely possible we could axe v6 at the end of the year. People should start learning v7, it's really not that different..

That will be good decision! @cen
Only reason why I play v6 is demolishing some players and it's bit statisfying for me acutally. :D @God
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Deynro on October 11, 2021, 05:44: Quote from: cen on October 10, 2021, 16:33
It is entirely possible we could axe v6 at the end of the year. People should start learning v7, it's really not that different..

Great news! New era coming soon, i look forward to it.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: FataLity- on October 11, 2021, 07:30: Could be better if it was sooner, I just wanna play one game after work but I dont want to wait 30-40 minutes in lobby. Usually I end up with logging in waiting in lobby then leaving
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Program on October 12, 2021, 11:34: Quote from: cen on October 10, 2021, 16:33
It is entirely possible we could axe v6 at the end of the year. People should start learning v7, it's really not that different..
Can't u do It now what is stopping you I don't want to play on rgc no more
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Deynro on November 05, 2021, 18:51: Quote from: cen on October 10, 2021, 16:33
It is entirely possible we could axe v6 at the end of the year. People should start learning v7, it's really not that different..

(https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/71/713d386d6528eca279f7918f22abe13d.jpeg)
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: grga_man on November 06, 2021, 12:10: Quote from: Deynro on November 05, 2021, 18:51
Quote from: cen on October 10, 2021, 16:33
It is entirely possible we could axe v6 at the end of the year. People should start learning v7, it's really not that different..

(https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/71/713d386d6528eca279f7918f22abe13d.jpeg)

Deynro is losing patience, do something!
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 06, 2021, 17:54: Still waiting in your empty v7 lobbies xD ?

Cen, just one thing what popped in my mind: did you calculate how much less donations will you get, if you remove v6? I know like 10 players in an instance, who donated, and are playing only v6.
Guess you don't care about money anyway :) just asking.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on November 06, 2021, 18:55: 10$?

v6 players so desperate, trying to blackmail with patreon KEWK

(https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/media.media.68fa6c71-8b50-4811-95bc-28216dc0eb5a.original1024.jpg)
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 06, 2021, 19:12: Quote from: luke on November 06, 2021, 18:55
10$?

v6 players so desperate, trying to blackmail with patreon KEWK

(https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/media.media.68fa6c71-8b50-4811-95bc-28216dc0eb5a.original1024.jpg)

Desperate? xD
We are playing games after games, while the v7 lobbies are empty, and v7 nazis are crying full the forum, urging Cen to remove v6 because they can't fill a game.
Think again, who is desperate? xD

But true is true, the server gonna loose a lot of financial support. Correct me if I'm wrong, cause I don't have an insight about how the donations are divided between coming from v6 and v7 players.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: FataLity- on November 06, 2021, 22:49: Quote from: Corristo on November 06, 2021, 19:12
Quote from: luke on November 06, 2021, 18:55
10$?

v6 players so desperate, trying to blackmail with patreon KEWK

(https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/media.media.68fa6c71-8b50-4811-95bc-28216dc0eb5a.original1024.jpg)

Desperate? xD
We are playing games after games, while the v7 lobbies are empty, and v7 nazis are crying full the forum, urging Cen to remove v6 because they can't fill a game.
Think again, who is desperate? xD

But true is true, the server gonna loose a lot of financial support. Correct me if I'm wrong, cause I don't have an insight about how the donations are divided between coming from v6 and v7 players.
25$ a month from 8 players such investors wow.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AntlermanXXL on November 07, 2021, 09:50: Now this is what i call bass drop
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cen on November 08, 2021, 00:09: Quote from: FataLity- on November 06, 2021, 22:49
25$ a month from 8 players such investors wow.
not gonna lie, I had a good laugh reading this :D

Maybe I should ask our investors what they think.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on November 15, 2021, 19:34: Quote from: cen on November 08, 2021, 00:09
Quote from: FataLity- on November 06, 2021, 22:49
25$ a month from 8 players such investors wow.
not gonna lie, I had a good laugh reading this :D

Maybe I should ask our investors what they think.
i heard investors rekvest !autopub command?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AlexSunDar on November 20, 2021, 15:50: I personally think most people that could not able to learn v6 over years when switching to v7 would be "cannon fodder" for experienced v7 players. Version 7 way more dynamic, more heroes can "turn the table", and finally i wont see people leaving and screaming like when i pick old v6 visage :D
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cahorec on November 20, 2021, 16:23: No dont change map. No players for stupid DotA_Allstars_7.... Look
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 22, 2021, 16:27: Quote from: AlexSunDar on November 20, 2021, 15:50
I personally think most people that could not able to learn v6 over years when switching to v7 would be "cannon fodder" for experienced v7 players. Version 7 way more dynamic, more heroes can "turn the table", and finally i wont see people leaving and screaming like when i pick old v6 visage :D

Hahaha, that's why v7 players suck at v6 right? xD
Played a couple of 1600/1700 games recently, you guys think you are really good, but in fact, you are playing like dog shit xD

But keep telling it to yourself, eventually you will start to believe it after a while.

ps. All 1700+ games were hosted on v6. just saying...
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on November 22, 2021, 16:54: Finally i agree with corristo. Indeed most high psr games were hosted on v6 and most games where i saw stats like 12 0 were v6. But saying that it means that v6 players are good...

Idk what to say, keep living in your imaginary world, you arent ready for real dota
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AlexSunDar on November 22, 2021, 19:57: Corristo, you would lack map awareness even in Dota 0.95 :D
V7 is a rocket science for those of your kind. Good players occasionally plays eurobattle.net and mostly on rgc. Enjoy with your fellow dinosaur v6.9 :D
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 22, 2021, 20:26: Quote from: AlexSunDar on November 22, 2021, 19:57
Corristo, you would lack map awareness even in Dota 0.95 :D
V7 is a rocket science for those of your kind. Good players occasionally plays eurobattle.net and mostly on rgc. Enjoy with your fellow dinosaur v6.9 :D

Yes yes sure mate :D
So why did you play last times like dog shit tell me please? :D
All you you got is just talks, and nothing else.
Go play v7 or whatever cheap copy of dota2 you want with nubs like yourself, and keep talking trash on forum.

Meantime we gonna play 1700+ games. You know, ones you never do on v7 xD
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cahorec on November 22, 2021, 20:32: V7 is a rocket science for up to 15 players in total who can find players for their games only at forums. Teletubbies map is more popular compared to stupid DotA_Allstars_7. You DotA_Allstars_7 players are free to relax and wait for an hour to get players once previous game from the same map is finish
Not gonna lie, I had a good laugh reading this topic, desperate people do crying hard around to fulfill these 10% of DotA_Allstars_7 games. In up to 3 DotA_Allstars_7 one must be remake to pump up statistics, so desperate

(https://www.swp.de/imgs/07/8/3/4/9/2/2/7/1/tok_9a03ff3100063d64b6a5766978bd5cbb/w985_h554_x492_y306_2021-04-29_10_45_21-HSV_Fan_spricht_Klartext_-_YouTube-728647c9efde5a36.png)
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: [Dis]Kealthas on November 23, 2021, 12:37: i paly both maps there are two problems

first:The map is way too unbalanced because some heroes are upgraded to dota 2 while some are in their old version so they are weak.

second:The skill level of players are not good enough for new map in this server obviously. Most games ends up as both teams farming their jungle side for 10-20 min mid game until they get some stuff to fight.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on November 23, 2021, 14:23: Quote from: [Dis]Kealthas on November 23, 2021, 12:37
i paly both maps there are two problems

first:The map is way too unbalanced because some heroes are upgraded to dota 2 while some are in their old version so they are weak.

second:The skill level of players are not good enough for new map in this server obviously. Most games ends up as both teams farming their jungle side for 10-20 min mid game until they get some stuff to fight.
Can you provide more information to your statements? Would be nice if you support your statement with example. Thanks
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on November 23, 2021, 14:46: Quote from: [Dis]Kealthas on November 23, 2021, 12:37
i paly both maps there are two problems

first:The map is way too unbalanced because some heroes are upgraded to dota 2 while some are in their old version so they are weak.

second:The skill level of players are not good enough for new map in this server obviously. Most games ends up as both teams farming their jungle side for 10-20 min mid game until they get some stuff to fight.

Agree, most players here afk farm 30 minutes with luna, get aghanim, spam ulti and say they are pro because finish with score 20 7 or something. When there was upgrade from 6.73d to 6.80 or something was same, all cried how hard and not dota new map is. Now as you see nobody from them even remembers it and they have new favorite map 6.89. For sure if admins here didnt ask cryers and drama makers in forum it would be same thing, by now nobody would remember that v6 is "real dota" (LUL). To be short, all these people always cried and will cry with any change, their dream is to afk farm forest with beer in 1 hand and dick in other hand, play 100 minute game and they say how they are pro playing same hero every game
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on November 23, 2021, 20:36: @mordor911
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on November 23, 2021, 23:27: @mordor911
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on November 24, 2021, 09:52: Quote from: Corristo on November 22, 2021, 20:26
Meantime we gonna play 1700+ games. You know, ones you never do on v7 xD

@MarvinJunior doesn't this just compel you to come back and revert to v6 just so you can partake Lagabuse 1600+ rd games?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 24, 2021, 12:10: Quote from: Happy.. on November 24, 2021, 09:52
Quote from: Corristo on November 22, 2021, 20:26
Meantime we gonna play 1700+ games. You know, ones you never do on v7 xD

@MarvinJunior doesn't this just compel you to come back and revert to v6 just so you can partake Lagabuse 1600+ rd games?

Everyone is welcome to play 1700+ games on v6. We aren't nazis like v7 players, whinging about how good and next level that map is.

"For sure if admins here didnt ask cryers and drama makers in forum it would be same thing, by now nobody would remember that v6 is "real dota" (LUL)."

You are right. Cheap copy of dota 2 aka. V7 is the real classic dota LUL.
Cause it feels so classic to have the almost exact same map as dota 2 has LUL.
So much innovation and thinkering was done by our russian savior lord, making dota 2 available to play on lower graphics, for players from 3rd world countries on their potato PC.

Too bad no mapmaker continue editing v6.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on November 24, 2021, 12:19: Mapmakers keep modifying v6.73 which is old "classic" dota by ice frong KEWK]

You are playing same cheap copy of dota 2 by dracolich but somehow you like 1 cheap copy more than other cheap copy
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 24, 2021, 13:12: Quote from: luke on November 24, 2021, 12:19
Mapmakers keep modifying v6.73 which is old "classic" dota by ice frong KEWK]

You are playing same cheap copy of dota 2 by dracolich but somehow you like 1 cheap copy more than other cheap copy

Why put classic in quotes?
It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2. V7 on the other hand is 99% a copy of dota2, so it can't be considered classic anymore.

Just because you are playing dota2 on a low graphic, doesn't mean drakolich continued the legacy of dota1. He simply adopted dota2 to warcraft3 graphics.

And you are all melting from this...pathetic.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AntlermanXXL on November 24, 2021, 13:16: Thanks to lagabuse, we still have ongoing joke threads
Nice entertaining service @cen, 10/10
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 24, 2021, 13:29: Yes, and we also have highly intelligent persons, with super high sarcasmskills to share their thoughts on this forum.
Thanks Cen. Without you these persons would feel less entertained nowdays!
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on November 24, 2021, 14:35: It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2.
It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2.
It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2.
It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2.
It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2.
It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2.
It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2.
It's classic because it has close to nothing to do with dota 2.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: nikolagay on November 25, 2021, 21:19: Ah, Lagabuse. One of few places in the world where refusing to evolve is considered a legit option.

Grow a set and play the new map, for fuck sake.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: begin on November 25, 2021, 21:54: 35 days for 6.9 termination :)
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AlexSunDar on November 25, 2021, 22:44: Countdown has @begin :like a boss:
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 26, 2021, 12:13: Quote from: nikolagay on November 25, 2021, 21:19
Ah, Lagabuse. One of few places in the world where refusing to evolve is considered a legit option.

Grow a set and play the new map, for fuck sake.

If you wouldn't refuse to evolve, as you say, you would be playing DOTA 2 by now.
But you are still stuck on low graphics v7.

35 Days to remove v6.
What v7 players thinks will happen: finally they can fill their empty lobbies, and prove how good v7 is to v6 players finally!!!!

What actually will happen: v6 players stop playing on this server, and v7 players will still wait to fill their empty lobbies...
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: grga_man on November 26, 2021, 12:50: Quote from: Corristo on November 26, 2021, 12:13
Quote from: nikolagay on November 25, 2021, 21:19
Ah, Lagabuse. One of few places in the world where refusing to evolve is considered a legit option.

Grow a set and play the new map, for fuck sake.

If you wouldn't refuse to evolve, as you say, you would be playing DOTA 2 by now.
But you are still stuck on low graphics v7.

35 Days to remove v6.
What v7 players thinks will happen: finally they can fill their empty lobbies, and prove how good v7 is to v6 players finally!!!!

What actually will happen: v6 players stop playing on this server, and v7 players will still wait to fill their empty lobbies...

actually i have seen that people dont care which map it is, like they join v6 and next game they join v7 and opposite, i noticed that, there is only small group of v6 warriors which i dont care will they leave or stay. if we get raise of 30% players that we will be enough.
btw i wanted to experience that v6 feeling once again and i played most boring game in my life
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6429938 (me chen)
short story: everyone wood and thats it.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 26, 2021, 13:47: Quote from: grga_man on November 26, 2021, 12:50
Quote from: Corristo on November 26, 2021, 12:13
Quote from: nikolagay on November 25, 2021, 21:19
Ah, Lagabuse. One of few places in the world where refusing to evolve is considered a legit option.

Grow a set and play the new map, for fuck sake.

If you wouldn't refuse to evolve, as you say, you would be playing DOTA 2 by now.
But you are still stuck on low graphics v7.

35 Days to remove v6.
What v7 players thinks will happen: finally they can fill their empty lobbies, and prove how good v7 is to v6 players finally!!!!

What actually will happen: v6 players stop playing on this server, and v7 players will still wait to fill their empty lobbies...

actually i have seen that people dont care which map it is, like they join v6 and next game they join v7 and opposite, i noticed that, there is only small group of v6 warriors which i dont care will they leave or stay. if we get raise of 30% players that we will be enough.
btw i wanted to experience that v6 feeling once again and i played most boring game in my life
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6429938 (me chen)
short story: everyone wood and thats it.

Well, maybe you are right, and players will go over to v7.
But as I asked around among the players, 90% of them will just stop playing once v6 is removed. Of course there will be exceptions.

But I noticed the opposite of what you are saying , and statistics prove me right.
There are 3 games of v6 hosted for 1 v7 at the same time.
And I can see only around like 10 of v7 ''warriors'' (as you say), who are lobbying for v7, and want to remove v6 at all cost.

The minority here are you and alike my friend.
No offense or anything, you can play whatever you want, I'm just against forcing everyone on this server to play what YOU want, and not what WE want.See the difference?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on November 26, 2021, 14:13: Quote from: Corristo
Sir, I want to point 2 things out:

1- The reason you don't like v7 versions are obviously because of the UI change not because of the other game-related updates (as you once mentioned stuff like new items or new heroes etc).

And I find it completely normal (its not like im judging) but you insist on telling people v6 is classic whereas v7 is dota2. And this is exactly why you get criticized, because both of them are updated and are directly related to DotA2.

2- Another thing about the server or dota2, already many players left long ago due to whatever reason they had. Players kept decreasing but these current players (maybe 99%) are old remaining players from before and the reason they play is not only because of v6 dota or v7 dota but one of the reasons is 'platform'.

XPAM platform compared to others feels good and better (at least for me). The ones who wanted to play v7 already went to RGC and are playing but the reason they come to play here time to time is different, its not related to map at least.

So I wouldn't argue over something which is OBVIOUSLY based on preferences and I would suggest you to not argue over preferences but simply point out that you just dont like the whatever change and that is the reason you dislike, no need to say any other thing imo.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on November 26, 2021, 15:11: Quote
they play is not only because of v6 dota or v7 dota but one of the reasons is 'platform'.

Agree. I don't even think that people who only play v6 will leave. More likely they will start playing v7 with pepe face (https://www.vhv.rs/dpng/d/9-90197_sad-pepe-meme-hd-png-download.png)

Ofc saying that v7 is dota 2 and v6 is classic just because of UI change is the most stupid thing i ever heard here. If we wont count the 3-4 braindeads most players seem to play v6 only because they see it hosted. There aren't many games and eventually you have to choose to play v6 or not play, play v6 with your stack or play v7 with randoms or play v6 or play vs timurka
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AlexSunDar on November 26, 2021, 17:14: I personally more prefer team balancing on eurobattle.net than on rgc.
Especially now when "@TooShade 99-1 balance" is disabled :boy:
On rgc theres no balance required to start, you could play game against 5 player from the top 20 players (which is not rarely) cause they are playing together, they would tear you apart in first 15 min and gg.

Talking about 7.00 UI, you gona get used to it.
You could adjust brightness at settings, so it wont be annoying when you transferring from 6.9 to 7.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: TooShade on November 26, 2021, 17:20: Your brain is unbalanced, not games mr IssueBrainDar. @AlexSunDar
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on November 26, 2021, 17:54: Quote from: .SaLiH. on November 26, 2021, 14:13
Quote from: Corristo
Sir, I want to point 2 things out:

1- The reason you don't like v7 versions are obviously because of the UI change not because of the other game-related updates (as you once mentioned stuff like new items or new heroes etc).

And I find it completely normal (its not like im judging) but you insist on telling people v6 is classic whereas v7 is dota2. And this is exactly why you get criticized, because both of them are updated and are directly related to DotA2.

2- Another thing about the server or dota2, already many players left long ago due to whatever reason they had. Players kept decreasing but these current players (maybe 99%) are old remaining players from before and the reason they play is not only because of v6 dota or v7 dota but one of the reasons is 'platform'.

XPAM platform compared to others feels good and better (at least for me). The ones who wanted to play v7 already went to RGC and are playing but the reason they come to play here time to time is different, its not related to map at least.

So I wouldn't argue over something which is OBVIOUSLY based on preferences and I would suggest you to not argue over preferences but simply point out that you just dont like the whatever change and that is the reason you dislike, no need to say any other thing imo.

I totally agree with you, and you see things clear. I hate the v7 UI, and the v7 terrain changes.
But I welcome the hero updates, new heroes and new items.
I never said anything else, just my opinion. And I strongly oppose removing v6 , simply because the majority of players on this server prefer that, over v7.

God sees my soul, If I would have the time to do the changes to improove v6, and fix it's bugs, I would do it myself. (since I was working on the map Lords of Europe before, I have some experience in mapmaking).

This is why I suggested to not change the map and the UI as drasticaly as drakolich did, but to keep it closer to v6, all the while importing the rest. But no, he had to copy everything from dota2, for which I don't see big difference inbetween them.
This is what ruined the classic feeling of dota1.Most players see dota2, with old graphics, and nothing else.
But again, if some players prefer that, I don't blame them, and I dont criticize anyone. But when these players DEMAND the removal of v6, just so they fill their empty lobbies, this is what triggers me.

That's all, thank for your civilized comment, not like 99% of the wanna-be funny boyz this forum has.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: kna on November 26, 2021, 18:32: The mayority of the players v7 , and y god they
know who are they are whisping or asking to
join their game
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6428448
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6428451
sorry but i will skip those game with
Matafull
Pumpash
Elwar
Dobrsilna
Rather i will play on v6 then joining on stacked game
with those clowns
Find decent one and iwill join
Tell me if im not wrong
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: kna on November 26, 2021, 18:36: If im wrong ^^
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: nikolagay on November 27, 2021, 10:31: Quote from: Corristo on November 26, 2021, 12:13
If you wouldn't refuse to evolve, as you say, you would be playing DOTA 2 by now.
But you are still stuck on low graphics v7.

This is fair, and the argument would make sense if I still played Dota, but I don't. Quit quite a while ago.

I won't question why you guys are here and not on D2, most common cases are PC's being unable to meet D2 requirements or being unwilling to adjust to the major graphic differences between D1 and D2, but you're here for a reason. So yea, sure, you can stick to the same version for God knows how long and wait for people to switch to a different platform cause of inevitable boredom.

Or, maybe, just maybe, you could try playing v7 and then provide a constructive feedback on what should be changed and adjusted. Cause that's pretty much how things should work between game devs and players.

You have people who are actually willing to stay and keep working / improving D1, don't take it for granted, cause I can assure you it won't last forever.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Hamza on November 27, 2021, 15:59: Quote from: luke on November 26, 2021, 15:11
More likely they will start playing v7 with pepe face
That exactly what happens to me when i find no v7 games, and im forced to play v6
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cahorec on December 05, 2021, 15:20: This topic is a joke? Isn't it? Go remove this scum DotA_Allstars_7.
Can't you see there are barely 5 games per page?
Can't you see from 3 games 1 must be marked in blue color (remake)? Barely 1 from 5 games are DotA_Allstars_7 played games, and there is no enough players to play that shit to be part of such a fine league which dota.eurobattle is.
All these desperate DotA_Allstars_7 players should move on, nothing is left for you to do soo go play with Teletubbies toys or something like that.

Dota 2 map is available for free on Steam, all you have to do is to install Dota 2 like every normal thinking player who evolved enough to play the game worth of effort.

Do we, DotA_Allstars_6 complain for having 2 maps available in the same league? No we are not because you are just a few folks who can't even start a new game if previous of DotA_Allstars_7 map is not being finished yet. Sad but true...
Another solution, all of you DotA_Allstars_7 map players are used to other platforms, have you considered to stay there? Have you seen DotA_Allstars_6 players talking about other platforms? Nope!
What is next, the map can change and the most of DotA_Allstars_6 players will simply move on and stop playing dota or gather once per week to play private non-ranked games, while you DotA_Allstars_7 players are going to slowly die with not more than 2 or 3 additional games on daily basis for some time, and after that there will be no games to start at all.

My kindly proposal and the best final solution is, let DotA_Allstars_6 to be the only official ranked map on dota.eurobattle and give opportunity to DotA_Allstars_7 players and their community to have their private ranked league like it was in past SS or IHRL. What I mean is DotA_Allstars_7 players are not top players anymore and there are barely over 10 games daily played. All good players are on DotA_Allstars_6 and it should stay like it is now.

My kind regards to all players, accept it or move on, this is reality :)
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on December 05, 2021, 23:09: Quote from: cahorec on December 05, 2021, 15:20
All good players are on DotA_Allstars_6 and it should stay like it is now.
looks like there some rune called Delusion Rune in v6?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on December 05, 2021, 23:15: What I mean is DotA_Allstars_7 players are not top players anymore and there are barely over 10 games daily played.
What I mean is DotA_Allstars_7 players are not top players anymore and there are barely over 10 games daily played.
What I mean is DotA_Allstars_7 players are not top players anymore and there are barely over 10 games daily played.
What I mean is DotA_Allstars_7 players are not top players anymore and there are barely over 10 games daily played.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on December 05, 2021, 23:25: Do we, DotA_Allstars_6 complain for having 2 maps available in the same league?

This topic is a joke? Isn't it? Go remove this scum DotA_Allstars_7.

@cahorec
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on December 05, 2021, 23:31: Tbh i dont understand these v6 fans. There are people who enjoy the classic dota by icefrog and they play 6.73d. There are people who enjoy the new map by dracolich which is being developed most actively. Both side have some arguments. But v6 is just same "cheap dota 2 copy" as v7 but outdated and with known bugs. And all who want to keep it didnt provide a single argument against updating to v7 beside "i dont like it, cheap copy of dota 2 reeeeeeeeeeeee". Biggest mistake of lagabuse administration here was to let 2 maps and let people choose version instead of just upgrading it. I remember there were same situations in past too after each major upgrade. How come nobody creates topics demanding to return 6.8x version or something or some other version before they added legi or talents? Aren't talents a new feature from DOTA 2? What is so special in v7 beside letting 2 versions and giving people choice? Or maybe those who want to keep v6 started with this version, so its the only 1 they know that would make sense. But i had impression that most players here are old, so its really a mystery
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on December 06, 2021, 00:26: Yet another prospective candidate for a Mensa membership
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on December 06, 2021, 11:01: Quote from: luke on December 05, 2021, 23:31
How come nobody creates topics demanding to return 6.8x version or something or some other version before they added legi or talents?
I still think it would be very fun to play very old patch like 1.24e and 6.72c dota map with some certain ppl
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 07, 2021, 07:52: Quote from: luke on December 05, 2021, 23:31
Tbh i dont understand these v6 fans. There are people who enjoy the classic dota by icefrog and they play 6.73d. There are people who enjoy the new map by dracolich which is being developed most actively. Both side have some arguments. But v6 is just same "cheap dota 2 copy" as v7 but outdated and with known bugs. And all who want to keep it didnt provide a single argument against updating to v7 beside "i dont like it, cheap copy of dota 2 reeeeeeeeeeeee". Biggest mistake of lagabuse administration here was to let 2 maps and let people choose version instead of just upgrading it. I remember there were same situations in past too after each major upgrade. How come nobody creates topics demanding to return 6.8x version or something or some other version before they added legi or talents? Aren't talents a new feature from DOTA 2? What is so special in v7 beside letting 2 versions and giving people choice? Or maybe those who want to keep v6 started with this version, so its the only 1 they know that would make sense. But i had impression that most players here are old, so its really a mystery

Dude wtf are you talking about? Just because v6 has talents imported, it resembles dota2 as much as v7???? this is what you want to say? LOOOOL. either you are blind or ignorant.

Let me tell you something: i wasn't playing dota1 for like 2-3 years.
When I came back to this server, I was surprised by the changes v6 (back then the newest) had.
BUT: I could still recognize the map, and found my way quick. The few changes it had (talents, new items, and a few hero changes), I could learn within hours!

Now take a look at v7... It resembles dota2 up to 99%. EVERYTHING drakolich did, was to copy dota2. He turned a dota1 map, into dota2.
The difference jump between v6 and v7 is huge.

If I would meet v7 when I came back, I wouldn't even recognize dota1 anymore, and probably would just delete war3 as it is right away, simply because I would rather play dota2 on better graphics, rather than this abomination.

V7 is the perfect example of what happens, when you give a map to a person, who doesn't ask or doesn't care about players feedbacks, and has no original ideas, so he copy his homework.

And again, if you prefer v7, I don't mind really. Go and play it. But let the MAJORITY of this server play what they prefer, instead FORCING this pile of crap on to them.Unless you want a big ammount of active players leave this server.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: euyk on December 07, 2021, 13:05: Someone is slowly missing the plot here.
Instead of giving some constructive solution, you are threatening with leaving.
Let me tell you something, MAJORITY of players don't care.
Some will leave for sure, but 10% out of 100 active people, no idea how will server run after that.
You can join your friend tooshade in leaving i'm sure flood of tears will drop.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 07, 2021, 15:22: Quote from: euyk on December 07, 2021, 13:05
Someone is slowly missing the plot here.
Instead of giving some constructive solution, you are threatening with leaving.
Let me tell you something, MAJORITY of players don't care.
Some will leave for sure, but 10% out of 100 active people, no idea how will server run after that.
You can join your friend tooshade in leaving i'm sure flood of tears will drop.

Your numbers are fairy tale numbers. Just check the played games and see how many v6 games are hosted, and how many v7. you will be surprised to see how inactivee v7 is.

Secondly, I'm not threatening anyone lol. I will simply leave, and that's a fact.

I gave feedback to drakolich, and he simply didn't care.

A viable solution would be to find a mapmaker/map editor, who is willing to edit v6, since rollbacks for v7, even partial rollbacks, won't happen, simply because drakolich refuse to.

So what other solution you have in mind? nothing? oh yes, remove v6 which the majority on this server prefers. Really funny how you talk about constructive feedback and solutions, but your solution is the unconditional remove of a map. Nazi style.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: euyk on December 07, 2021, 17:05: And you still don't get it... not suprized.

Well first of all, stop saying "majority" since you are the only one contributing at this topic from all v6 players, so for me it looks like most people just don't care.
To be honest, today i wittnesed that when there were 2 lobbies hosted v6 and v7, people accualy moved to v7 from v6 lobby.. and i was like "the fuck is happening"

But still point is i don't care if someone remove v6 or v7 i said that once already, it's not up to me or anyone to decide but Cen and he did so..
Main problem here was accualy to unite community and make ranked system somewhat competitive, like whatever, noone will probably convince you to play v7.
Just by my curiosity, how many times have you played v7?
I don't care if it looks like dota2 or dota1, game is way more balanced.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on December 07, 2021, 17:11: stop with the d2 comparisons, its not even close to d2
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 07, 2021, 18:35: Quote from: euyk on December 07, 2021, 17:05
And you still don't get it... not suprized.

Well first of all, stop saying "majority" since you are the only one contributing at this topic from all v6 players, so for me it looks like most people just don't care.
To be honest, today i wittnesed that when there were 2 lobbies hosted v6 and v7, people accualy moved to v7 from v6 lobby.. and i was like "the fuck is happening"

But still point is i don't care if someone remove v6 or v7 i said that once already, it's not up to me or anyone to decide but Cen and he did so..
Main problem here was accualy to unite community and make ranked system somewhat competitive, like whatever, noone will probably convince you to play v7.
Just by my curiosity, how many times have you played v7?
I don't care if it looks like dota2 or dota1, game is way more balanced.

They don't care about the forum talks, that's true. But the majority of the games are hosted on v6. And almost all of 1600+ 1700+ games are hosted on v6.
I've never personally seen any 1700+ game hosted on v7. So you can play on with nubs like yourself. fine by me.

The majority of the top 30 players on the ladder are also v6 players.
But keep telling lies, someone might actually believe you.

Marvin, at this point, you made a clown out of yourself so many times, that I don't even care of what you say. its mostly senseless crap anyway.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on December 07, 2021, 18:38: why do you keep bringing up d2, you clearly never played the game

@Corristo
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cahorec on December 07, 2021, 19:57: The only way for DotA_Allstars_7 players to be in top again is removal of all DotA_Allstars_6 players. Dota 2 map is already widely used in another league with millions of players so is there any point to go with low version of Dota 2 for low budget pc holders? Better solution is to give a try to Legion TD or similar map instead. No point to push not so popular cheap copy of Dota2.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on December 07, 2021, 22:18: If i don't like the map its dota 2, if i like the map its not dota 2 LOOOOOOOL. Talents are dota 2 its fact deal with it. v6 terrain changes are dota 2 deal with it. Hurricane pike is dota 2 deal with it. Octarine core is dota 2 deal with it. So funny how people hate dota 2 but protect v6 which is based on dota 2. Did you even play dota 2 at all? Rly funny these people. Have no idea about subject and argue. The only not dota 2 version is 6.73d and they are still upgrading it to add dota 2 items. So evil dota 2 is everywhere fuuck. Dota always had terrain changes and major changes but first time i see kids crying reeeee, dota 2 having no idea that ALL changes after v6.73d come from dota 2. I bet its that UI thing with heroes is confusing them and makes them thing its dota 2 Lul
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: euyk on December 07, 2021, 22:22: Quote from: Corristo on December 07, 2021, 18:35
Quote from: euyk on December 07, 2021, 17:05
And you still don't get it... not suprized.

Well first of all, stop saying "majority" since you are the only one contributing at this topic from all v6 players, so for me it looks like most people just don't care.
To be honest, today i wittnesed that when there were 2 lobbies hosted v6 and v7, people accualy moved to v7 from v6 lobby.. and i was like "the fuck is happening"

But still point is i don't care if someone remove v6 or v7 i said that once already, it's not up to me or anyone to decide but Cen and he did so..
Main problem here was accualy to unite community and make ranked system somewhat competitive, like whatever, noone will probably convince you to play v7.
Just by my curiosity, how many times have you played v7?
I don't care if it looks like dota2 or dota1, game is way more balanced.

They don't care about the forum talks, that's true. But the majority of the games are hosted on v6. And almost all of 1600+ 1700+ games are hosted on v6.
I've never personally seen any 1700+ game hosted on v7. So you can play on with nubs like yourself. fine by me.

The majority of the top 30 players on the ladder are also v6 players.
But keep telling lies, someone might actually believe you.

Marvin, at this point, you made a clown out of yourself so many times, that I don't even care of what you say. its mostly senseless crap anyway.

Well first of all, you don't even know who i am so calling me a noob is a bit hush, but hardly expect anything from noob player himself, like the only reason you ever got into 1700 is that all good players already left, dude keep telling yourself you are good or whatever.
And yes, clearly most of top 30 are v6 players so that just supports my statement, when you look on that list of "top 30 players".
And obviously you still don't get anything, noone ever doubted that more games are played on v6, cen gave us statistics which are like 60% v6 and 40% v7 ( + / - )
on hosted games.

And you still didn't answer my question, which i wonder why.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: grga_man on December 07, 2021, 23:54: @Corristo can i join those pro v6 1700+ games, since tooshade is kicking me all the time, i think im not worthy, i really want to experience as same as you do.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: TooShade on December 08, 2021, 06:57: What? I'm not even hosting anymore...
Don't dream things not true please.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 07:26: I wonder how many of these forum hussars are actually playing the game. They seem to be active only on forum. I don't think I've seen many of you in 1700+ games (which are only hosted on v6).
Beside Alexsundar, I don't even think I can name any of you xD
You guys are as hidden/inactive in games, as active you are on forum.

I wonder why we even take into account opinions coming from players, who either play with nubs in v7, or rarely play at all lol.

To answer you questions, i played v7 like 10 times, and I was disgusted by it every single time. Players hiding in jungle, until they have their items, teamplay isn't a thing among those players.

I would never trade a good v6 1700+ games for those type of games. Its utter disgrace to see where these games devolved.

Just yesterday we played multiple 1650+ 1700+ games, where the good feeling of teamgames are still present. Damn, I will miss those when v6 will be gone (if).
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Happy.. on December 08, 2021, 10:06: Quote from: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 07:26
I wonder how many of these forum hussars are actually playing the game. They seem to be active only on forum. I don't think I've seen many of you in 1700+ games (which are only hosted on v6).
Beside Alexsundar, I don't even think I can name any of you xD
You guys are as hidden/inactive in games, as active you are on forum.

I wonder why we even take into account opinions coming from players, who either play with nubs in v7, or rarely play at all lol.

To answer you questions, i played v7 like 10 times, and I was disgusted by it every single time. Players hiding in jungle, until they have their items, teamplay isn't a thing among those players.

I would never trade a good v6 1700+ games for those type of games. Its utter disgrace to see where these games devolved.

Just yesterday we played multiple 1650+ 1700+ games, where the good feeling of teamgames are still present. Damn, I will miss those when v6 will be gone (if).

How about you take a look at what a normal game looks like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9iQm7SOybs

It would be great if you could stop trying to mislead anyone here that your 1600 lagabuse games are anything else but total horseshit because you all fucking suck.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 10:09: Right, I thought we are talking about THIS server, not games from other platforms.
Should I link you professional (meaning real PAID PROS) games of dota2 matches too or what?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: grga_man on December 08, 2021, 13:12: Quote from: TooShade on December 08, 2021, 06:57
What? I'm not even hosting anymore...
Don't dream things not true please.
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6431148
Lobby log 8min you checked my ping then kicked me, so ez.
Im everything but not a liar.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: euyk on December 08, 2021, 14:21: Quote from: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 07:26
I wonder how many of these forum hussars are actually playing the game. They seem to be active only on forum. I don't think I've seen many of you in 1700+ games (which are only hosted on v6).
Beside Alexsundar, I don't even think I can name any of you xD
You guys are as hidden/inactive in games, as active you are on forum.

I wonder why we even take into account opinions coming from players, who either play with nubs in v7, or rarely play at all lol.

To answer you questions, i played v7 like 10 times, and I was disgusted by it every single time. Players hiding in jungle, until they have their items, teamplay isn't a thing among those players.

I would never trade a good v6 1700+ games for those type of games. Its utter disgrace to see where these games devolved.

Just yesterday we played multiple 1650+ 1700+ games, where the good feeling of teamgames are still present. Damn, I will miss those when v6 will be gone (if).

Can you send a link of those "good" games ? I wanna see it myself, cuz all my experience from v6 are just jungle players, who dont care about teamfights or anything.
Stop lying, you can read changelog to realize in v7 you will get less gold/xp from wood, so people tend to let their carry farm while they ganging and such.
Depends on game and players ofc.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 15:08: Quote from: euyk on December 08, 2021, 14:21
Quote from: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 07:26
I wonder how many of these forum hussars are actually playing the game. They seem to be active only on forum. I don't think I've seen many of you in 1700+ games (which are only hosted on v6).
Beside Alexsundar, I don't even think I can name any of you xD
You guys are as hidden/inactive in games, as active you are on forum.

I wonder why we even take into account opinions coming from players, who either play with nubs in v7, or rarely play at all lol.

To answer you questions, i played v7 like 10 times, and I was disgusted by it every single time. Players hiding in jungle, until they have their items, teamplay isn't a thing among those players.

I would never trade a good v6 1700+ games for those type of games. Its utter disgrace to see where these games devolved.

Just yesterday we played multiple 1650+ 1700+ games, where the good feeling of teamgames are still present. Damn, I will miss those when v6 will be gone (if).

Can you send a link of those "good" games ? I wanna see it myself, cuz all my experience from v6 are just jungle players, who dont care about teamfights or anything.
Stop lying, you can read changelog to realize in v7 you will get less gold/xp from wood, so people tend to let their carry farm while they ganging and such.
Depends on game and players ofc.

Sure, here you go: https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6432024

I entered a v7 lobby today, because a player whisped to plz join it. When I saw they are all 1450-1500 players , I left instantly. xD
Typical v7 lobby.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: bewater on December 08, 2021, 15:13: You sir are in denial, and ur missing out becouse of that.We all played 6.90 for a long time and got used to every little detail.Then the new map came and suddenly you feelt like a begginer and it didnt feelt plesant as 6.90 at all.The difference is we endured those 2 weeks outside of the comfort zone, and now enjoy a far better version of the game.Its never to late to wake up and stop being a doughnout.Keeping the 6.90 is ruining the server on the long run, becouse its not allowing new players to come, people wanna go foward not backwards.In the past year or so i had around 20 players asking to come here, that are more then decent compared to the average player on lagabuse, but when they hear the state they just give up, and those few that came played a few games and deleted it.Let the server move foward, and you host your self 6.90 custom games if that is what you really want.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 15:46: Quote from: bewater on December 08, 2021, 15:13
You sir are in denial, and ur missing out becouse of that.We all played 6.90 for a long time and got used to every little detail.Then the new map came and suddenly you feelt like a begginer and it didnt feelt plesant as 6.90 at all.The difference is we endured those 2 weeks outside of the comfort zone, and now enjoy a far better version of the game.Its never to late to wake up and stop being a doughnout.Keeping the 6.90 is ruining the server on the long run, becouse its not allowing new players to come, people wanna go foward not backwards.In the past year or so i had around 20 players asking to come here, that are more then decent compared to the average player on lagabuse, but when they hear the state they just give up, and those few that came played a few games and deleted it.Let the server move foward, and you host your self 6.90 custom games if that is what you really want.

Hmm, I don't know if you knew, but you can actually host v7, and play it.
I don't see your problem. What's stopping you from playing v7?
You are speaking, like I'm the reason you can't host and play v7 lol.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: MarvinJunior on December 08, 2021, 16:32: I can't tell anymore, is our hero deliberately missing the point or what's actually going on?

@Happy.. please enlighten me
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: euyk on December 08, 2021, 16:35: Quote from: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 15:08
Quote from: euyk on December 08, 2021, 14:21
Quote from: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 07:26
I wonder how many of these forum hussars are actually playing the game. They seem to be active only on forum. I don't think I've seen many of you in 1700+ games (which are only hosted on v6).
Beside Alexsundar, I don't even think I can name any of you xD
You guys are as hidden/inactive in games, as active you are on forum.

I wonder why we even take into account opinions coming from players, who either play with nubs in v7, or rarely play at all lol.

To answer you questions, i played v7 like 10 times, and I was disgusted by it every single time. Players hiding in jungle, until they have their items, teamplay isn't a thing among those players.

I would never trade a good v6 1700+ games for those type of games. Its utter disgrace to see where these games devolved.

Just yesterday we played multiple 1650+ 1700+ games, where the good feeling of teamgames are still present. Damn, I will miss those when v6 will be gone (if).

Can you send a link of those "good" games ? I wanna see it myself, cuz all my experience from v6 are just jungle players, who dont care about teamfights or anything.
Stop lying, you can read changelog to realize in v7 you will get less gold/xp from wood, so people tend to let their carry farm while they ganging and such.
Depends on game and players ofc.

Sure, here you go: https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6432024

I entered a v7 lobby today, because a player whisped to plz join it. When I saw they are all 1450-1500 players , I left instantly. xD
Typical v7 lobby.

So i humbly watched the replay...
Do you have more of those, i've never laughed this much in my life, real clown fiesta.
Lovec sniper 2 minutes hugging mid tower with 100hp, then send courier to finish his aquila ring and after that hes going back to base without boots to refill hp.
Medusa first item midas, then maelstorm > perseverance > mask.. result 1k hp 30 minutes in game.
Viperchoko as a legend diving and feeding
Meanwhile borila afk mid and luna trying to farm vs nessaj and doctor bot lane his aghanim which he finished at 35 minutes or so usefull once per 140 seconds (it didn't even have any impact on game)

Looks like very good game what so ever, i might accualy come to play v6 to take some of your precious psr, since you keep saying 1700+++ games :D
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 16:41: Absolutely. Join and teach us. I might even meet one of you ''pros'' ingame, and see what you are worth of :). At talking, so far you are all 10/10.
Please show me skilllllllll
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on December 08, 2021, 18:41: Quote
Can you send a link of those "good" games ? I wanna see it myself, cuz all my experience from v6 are just jungle players, who dont care about teamfights or anything.

I played v6 few times and difference is huge. Ofc you cant judge from just few games but when you join 1600+ pro game (KEKW) you dont expect that everybody will farm 50+ min and then stronger leorics will win. Though the same difference i felt when played on some platform starting with R lately too, even if they were noobs they were teleporting to help and putin wards (!!!!).

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We all played 6.90 for a long time and got used to every little detail.Then the new map came and suddenly you feelt like a begginer and it didnt feelt plesant as 6.90 at all.

Agree, 7.00 was very confusing when i first tried it and i didnt want to play it too at first, so i understand these v6 fans. Idk how to explain the difference, its not new terrain, items and UI, there is something else, as invoker would say "something illusive". First game i was basically afk reading items. After 3-4 games i understood how to play it and since v7 demands more active gameplay it met my playstyle ideally. That might be a problem for them because all who supported v6 in this thread are 50 min leoric jungle farmers.

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few that came played a few games and deleted it
Yes i see people coming from time to time, they make 30 0 ask why there are no games and why lagabuse players still so low and leave. Generally having 2 different maps with same ladder is stupid, i think either v6 or v7 should be removed asap.

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So i humbly watched the replay...
Do you have more of those, i've never laughed this much in my life, real clown fiesta.
Lovec sniper 2 minutes hugging mid tower with 100hp, then send courier to finish his aquila ring and after that hes going back to base without boots to refill hp.
Medusa first item midas, then maelstorm > perseverance > mask.. result 1k hp 30 minutes in game.
Viperchoko as a legend diving and feeding
Meanwhile borila afk mid and luna trying to farm vs nessaj and doctor bot lane his aghanim which he finished at 35 minutes or so usefull once per 140 seconds (it didn't even have any impact on game)

Why ruin their imaginary world, i bet if they never met a good player (well for this server even average player is good, its like mma fighter will come to kindergarten to fight kids). I already explained these people enjoy playing with beer in 1 hand and chips in other hand, they dont need decent gameplay, they enjoy by winning psr and farming stats from noobs. Why else would they pick same heroes and farm jungle 50 min other than eating chips and watching youtube while doing it. They dont want v7 because its different, scary and they wont feel as pros anymore. Its just another segment of players, you would call them casuals. You will never convince mario player to switch to dark souls
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cahorec on December 08, 2021, 21:11: Quote from: euyk on December 07, 2021, 22:22
Quote from: Corristo on December 07, 2021, 18:35
Quote from: euyk on December 07, 2021, 17:05

Well first of all, you don't even know who i am so calling me a noob is a bit hush, but hardly expect anything from noob player himself, like the only reason you ever got into 1700 is that all good players already left, dude keep telling yourself you are good or whatever.
And yes, clearly most of top 30 are v6 players so that just supports my statement, when you look on that list of "top 30 players".
And obviously you still don't get anything, noone ever doubted that more games are played on v6, cen gave us statistics which are like 60% v6 and 40% v7 ( + / - )
on hosted games.

And you still didn't answer my question, which i wonder why.
How can it be 60% v6 and 40% v7? Is statistic supposed to be 60 games for game1 and 40 games for game2? Fake statistic really. Current statistic is 20 games per day for v7 and 70 games for v6.
20% for v7,
10% for draws and
70% for v6

What benefits will be for this platform with removal of DotA_Allstars_6? On daily basis DotA_Allstars_7 have average less than 24 games, with draws that number is less than 20 games and less than 1 game per hour. DotA_Allstars_6 average number of the games is 76, removing draw results gives daily around 70 games, 3 games every hour. 1 new game will start every 20 minutes.
This is clear case and example, some of forum users wants badly to promote other platforms and the best way to do it is to suppress active league. Keep promoting other platforms, that won't help you to mask reality. Forcing unpopular map such as DotA_Allstars_7 leads to abyss.

5vs5 DotA Ladder

07-12-2021
v7:v6
21:77

06-12-2021
v7:v6
26:74
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AntlermanXXL on December 08, 2021, 22:36: Quote from: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 16:41
Absolutely. Join and teach us. I might even meet one of you ''pros'' ingame, and see what you are worth of :). At talking, so far you are all 10/10.
Please show me skilllllllll

Oh, come on! Again you are running into this, like 2 years ago, while i was still playing dota here;
Anytime me or my friends joined games against you, we were only making fun of your misplays and outplayed you like every time, while also roasting you in the chat eventually;
Those were fun streams for sure
We lost maybe 2 games out of 30, by occasion, yet, they were full of golden outplays and fun moments, sponsored by your gameplay, sir;

Can you misters stop getting this epic argue into skill comparison, there is a clearly big skill gap between some players, and you personally, sir, are not on higher part of this gap;

If you find yourself fun to play v6 map - then defend your fun! It is understandable and cool, everybody has own preferences!
But, please, do not go into the area you are not aware of - skill and knowledge about the game, because obviously you lack of this, compared to some participants of this thread;
While just defending the ability to play specific version or the map is fine itself, and it may lead somewhere;
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 09, 2021, 07:11: "Anytime me and my friends" !!!!!
Yep, don't compare randomly made up teams, of players who play casually vs a 5 stack players, who play together often. The result will be obvious.

On the other hand, whenever I saw v7 players join v6 games ALONE, they didn't play too good neither ;)

Secondly, 2 years ago I wasn't playing, so you might mistake me for sby else.

Thirdly: "while i was still playing dota here; "
you don't play around here anymore, which further aproves my statement, that hardcore forum users, are barely if ever, play on this server anymore.Trully we should listen to inactive players like you right?

I never said I'm pro, and I trully would like you to join our games, and show us REAL SKILL.
There is only 1 player currently, who is joining v6 games, and its super fun to watch him playing, even if I loose: Borilla.
I have respect for him, just by watching him I learn new tricks.

Probably there are more good players like him, but they simply don't join games to show us (noobs) how to play.
So A) either you are inactive. or B) You never showed any real skill, so I didn't notice. So you play like dogshit.

GO and play, and make impression on me. So I can BOW TO YOUR MIGHTY skill.
Talks won't impress me mr.deeer. Talks are for kids.

For the second part ( defending my map preference).
I wrote it down 100 times here, but seemingly you didn't read them.
In short version: v7 is a cheap copy of dota2, UI and terrain changes are the most bothering. And since I hate to vomit, I don't play it.
So for me personally, v6 is fun to play, v7 is not.
If you don't agree with me no problem, go play v7. But can you at least let players v6 play their map as well? And don't force your preference on ours?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AntlermanXXL on December 09, 2021, 10:17: You definitely did not read my post carefully
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: .SaLiH. on December 09, 2021, 10:52: Quote
borilla
is it April 1st?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: nikolagay on December 09, 2021, 13:33: What a lovely dick-measuring contest, guess I should participate as well.

@AntlermanXXL I'd still wreck yo ass in a 1v1!

For real though, just grow a spine, get out of your comfort zone, and play v7, come on...
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: AntlermanXXL on December 09, 2021, 14:16: Quote from: nikolagay on December 09, 2021, 13:33
@AntlermanXXL I'd still wreck yo ass in a 1v1!

You actually did, afaik, our 1v1s score in like 2015 was 1:2, your lead :-D
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: kna on December 09, 2021, 18:39: Man duno why you put my name in it SARIH or who ever you are but the fact that like i said so many times
knowning the place you are standing giving me a pleasure to not answear your stupid jokes
about 1 april or some other crap , btw im known player on bot maps so im fine about your puting players on loser stage for not using v7
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cahorec on December 09, 2021, 20:14: Quote from: .SaLiH. on December 09, 2021, 10:52
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is it April 1st?
Its not. 1 game v7 per hour and 3 games v6 per hour is huge difference. twrpgv0.58e_eng.w3x, Farm TD 0.2 EN B..., Naruto Legend v1..., Marvel_TD_1.3.w3x, BraveHeroDefence..., Darky0.46.w3x and other maps could be more popular maps compared to v7.

Quote from: cahorec on December 08, 2021, 21:11
Quote from: euyk on December 07, 2021, 22:22
Quote from: Corristo on December 07, 2021, 18:35
Quote from: euyk on December 07, 2021, 17:05

Well first of all, you don't even know who i am so calling me a noob is a bit hush, but hardly expect anything from noob player himself, like the only reason you ever got into 1700 is that all good players already left, dude keep telling yourself you are good or whatever.
And yes, clearly most of top 30 are v6 players so that just supports my statement, when you look on that list of "top 30 players".
And obviously you still don't get anything, noone ever doubted that more games are played on v6, cen gave us statistics which are like 60% v6 and 40% v7 ( + / - )
on hosted games.

And you still didn't answer my question, which i wonder why.
How can it be 60% v6 and 40% v7? Is statistic supposed to be 60 games for game1 and 40 games for game2? Fake statistic really. Current statistic is 20 games per day for v7 and 70 games for v6.
20% for v7,
10% for draws and
70% for v6

What benefits will be for this platform with removal of DotA_Allstars_6? On daily basis DotA_Allstars_7 have average less than 24 games, with draws that number is less than 20 games and less than 1 game per hour. DotA_Allstars_6 average number of the games is 76, removing draw results gives daily around 70 games, 3 games every hour. 1 new game will start every 20 minutes.
This is clear case and example, some of forum users wants badly to promote other platforms and the best way to do it is to suppress active league. Keep promoting other platforms, that won't help you to mask reality. Forcing unpopular map such as DotA_Allstars_7 leads to abyss.

5vs5 DotA Ladder

07-12-2021
v7:v6
21:77

06-12-2021
v7:v6
26:74
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on December 09, 2021, 20:58: Wow, statistics experts in the thread. Let me give you my statistics: 90%+ of players on this platform are bad, so no wonder they choose v6. Good players were slowly moving to another platform which is taboo here and it has at least 2x more v7 games than here all combined. We had statistics from cen with number of games which said like 40%-60% now its maybe 30% 70%. We can ofc interpret it as wow v6 becoming more popular, people want it. Or we can interpret it that good players are leaving and low players staying
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: bewater on December 09, 2021, 21:07: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBCORUNqPu8
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cahorec on December 11, 2021, 22:23: Wow, stop insulting 90% of players on this platform. Who is good and who is not is just your and opinion of few individuals. The good players had left this platform 10 years ago with official release of Dota2, and everyone who self-proclaimed as good or pro player after that period is just another low who wants to raise on forums. Nothing spectacular and nothing relevant, completely irrelevant persons.
Why is another platform relevant to this topic subject? And why don't you people go to play on platform with 2x more games and players? What is the point to stay here under given circumstances, instead behaving dramatic and request nonsense things is pointless. You and few other folks can ofc interpret it as however you want, but the facts will never be changed. DotA_Allstars_7 was never widely accepted and never popular on this platform. With less than 30% of dota ladder games it is pain in the eyes to see this map as part of such a nice league. And stop talking about statistics, you are wrong. It is near 100 games daily and barely 20 v7 games on that statistic, 10 games goes to draws and 70 to the most popular map, DotA_Allstars_6. Here you go again on 09-12-2021 is 21:70 v7:v6.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on December 12, 2021, 23:01: Im not insulting, im stating a fact. And my opinion is that the players here didnt become better in these years, its the average player became worse. Maybe you just want to play your afk jungle leoric while drinking beer and eating chips after day of work but some people want to play normal games. If the admins listened to people like you we would still be playing dota 6.73 or something because why update, if you want to play dota 2 then go dota 2. Also it seems nobody has anything to say about 6.88 and 6.9 being same copies of dota 2. Thats really hypocritic, you say 7.00 is dota 2 but 6.9 is the same dota 2 just 1 version before. Talents are dota 2 features, hurricane pike, octarine core, lotus orb are dota 2 items. Bounty rune is dota 2 power up. But i bet you didnt know about it because you never played dota 2. Maybe for you its unknown but all maps by dracolich (after 6.73) are following dota 2 updates (wait, oh shi....). And as i said if the admins gave you a choice between 6.89 and 6.90 you would keep playing 6.89 and saying that 6.90 is cheap copy of dota 2 and not popular on this platoform the same way as you do now. You are just making excuses thats all. Where i agree with antivaxxers, i mean v6 players is that there should be only 1 map. Having 2 maps with same ladder is stupid and should be fixed asap. So make it either v6 or v7 already
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cahorec on December 13, 2021, 01:26: This is only yours and opinion of few individuals in this topic. Its pointless and stupid to say how all the players became worst compared to past. With DotA_Allstars_6.9, player focus is mainly on the game, before that focus is on everything and not on the game, all the problems possible to happen in the game, that was older maps. How often do you see these problems lately? I bet you always get Leoric and Naix in the jungle for a very long time, this is not common on 6.9 map. Are you sure this is the case of mentioned map or it is the case related with the map you represent in this topic? All the games hosted on v6 map are usually normal and not many complain, all the players who complain about maps are DotA_Allstars_7 players. Why are they complaining? Because on this platform DotA_Allstars_7 map is not popular and in team #1 are 5 good players and in another are 5 bad players and this is now supposed to be problem globally for all players? Please stop going off subject in question, this topic is about advertising unpopular map and extreme approach about popular map removal only because DotA_Allstars_7 does not have players and nothing more. Not a single valid point for this action. We do not talk about Dota2 and Dota2 features, these features had been used for other similar maps, older and much before in Dota1.
Always stupid excuses must be to compare how desperate DotA_Allstars_7 players are. Your next idea is off subject comparison of Dota game and vaccines, normal games DotA_Allstars_6 and the games on DotA_Allstars_7 with less popularity, random skill rating and obviously more toxic environment. Only 1 map is present on ladder, all of the best players play DotA_Allstars_6, approximately 70-80% of the cookie belongs to DotA_Allstars_6. The most probably half of the games on this platform goes to DotA_Allstars_6. What is going to happen after DotA_Allstars_6 removal, it takes half of the games on this platform? DotA_Allstars_7 takes 5% or so max. For 2 years DotA_Allstars_7 never moved forward & the map popularity has not been changed, this map takes small piece of the cookie, so small to be taken as primary solution. The best solution for all is to be like it is now or removal of DotA_Allstars_7 can bring all the things to normal.
Quote from: Corristo on December 08, 2021, 15:46
I don't know if you knew, but you can actually host v7, and play it.
I don't see your problem. What's stopping you from playing v7?
You are speaking, like I'm the reason you can't host and play v7 lol.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: luke on December 13, 2021, 06:28: Classic antivaxxer "arguments". I say v6 is bugged and here are the bugs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqjsTtZ4EV0&list=PLQ86EiuMXe04cc8Zo4u9MD_pajztgTcjc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrMqZn-vALI&list=PLQ86EiuMXe04cc8Zo4u9MD_pajztgTcjc&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qAD0xk5q-k

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=190370.15

+ there is rare bug with spectre crashing game.

What is your excuse for playing dota with bugs?
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 13, 2021, 06:56: I'm playing v6 for 1,5 years, and beside the tuskar+visage problem, never seen any of these bugs...must be extremely rare.
Also, v7 is updated so often,not because drakolich has a lot of good ideas, but because of bugs and unbalances.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: 4K on December 13, 2021, 07:27: Unfortunately, I find those conversations as interesting as small talk :P

Go to learn language and code for us and help people from drowning of D1 team,
Bugs on v6 never get any updates why? draco announced stopped work on v6

So talking for nothing, nothing will change the fact.

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Current statistic is 20 games per day for v7 and 70 games for v6.

Depending ppls on playing verisons of both, Like people when go to buy, will not earn like yesterday or tomorrow.

We ignore truth and seeing with fake eyes :P

here we have freedom to choose play on versions
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: Corristo on December 13, 2021, 08:09: "here we have freedom to choose play on versions"

And this is all we ask.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cen on December 13, 2021, 14:20: As much as I like to read these debates I feel like we have exhausted all for and against arguments and nothing of value is being added lately. Thread will be reopened when/if the current system changes.
Title: Re: 7.00 era!
Post by: cen on May 03, 2022, 19:58: as soon as next v7 stabilizes I plan to execute order 66