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Title: The Changes
Post by: Angel on March 22, 2013, 13:18
Hello everyone,

After a long period of unsteadiness, we would like to make some changes. Therefore we would highly appreciate user's suggestions about the possible changes. Since this community is here for both, users and us, we find it very crucial that we comply with needments of both.

We're also aware that there were some bad pictures made by staff members recently, mostly regarding their behaviour. Well, I can assure you that those things will be changed very soon, moreover we would be glad to hear from you what kind of contact you would like to make / have with Staff members, such as interaction on different matters.

The above mentioned changes refers to both, forum and bot. So we're ready to hear what should be changed and we'll be glad to give our own opinions on that as well.


Thanks in advance,
Angel
LA Staff
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: LEGEN-WAIT-DARY on March 22, 2013, 16:47
The biggest problems that were here were the bad pictures from some members of staff and if that changes everything will be good
50Euro a.k.a Drago has to change his arrogance and bossy attitude  i think some of the members have problems with him and i find him disturbing sometimes too..He was funny before but now when he is a staff member he thinks he owns this :-)
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: FU I am PeNGuiN on March 22, 2013, 17:00
Imo drago never even should have become admin, he was the biggest spammer ever on this forum
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: LEGEN-WAIT-DARY on March 22, 2013, 17:02
I told him to loosen up and let a little spam around here cos he was the biggest spammer and made new forum accs to spam again via pm and he pmed me back another pm from u another ban on the ban list ..
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: BLOODYALBOZ on March 22, 2013, 17:08
Guys plz, keep this topic free of spam ( not that you are spamming, just to remind)

I'm sure there must be more that users can ask/require etc. from admins, so express everything you think is needed for an wanted outcome.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Angel on March 22, 2013, 17:24
The biggest problems that were here were the bad pictures from some members of staff and if that changes everything will be good
50Euro a.k.a Drago has to change his arrogance and bossy attitude  i think some of the members have problems with him and i find him disturbing sometimes too..He was funny before but now when he is a staff member he thinks he owns this :-)

Can you provide me any specific evidence where he was behaving bad? If so, please PM me. I would be more than glad to help you.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Dulesto on March 22, 2013, 22:51
I think im not the only one here that had bad experience with Dragoljub, and that has manners arent rly good. I think someone should talk to him, also i pmed Angel with one situation about him, where i asked for help on forum and he just gave some stupid reply, while others trying to help, and i dont know why is that not considered spam, probably cause its from admin. My opinion on him is rly bad mannered and power abusive guy.

Cheers.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: TroubleMaker^^ on March 22, 2013, 23:14
That same Drago gave great contribution for all common users. He has great knowledge about how this system works, gproxy, new installer etc etc.
Just look at tech support and topics related to that...
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: FU I am PeNGuiN on March 22, 2013, 23:18
somewhat offtopic but it can be related:
is bannable to flame thru private messages?
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: BLOODYALBOZ on March 22, 2013, 23:20
somewhat offtopic but it can be related:
is bannable to flame thru private messages?
yes, it is.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Angel on March 23, 2013, 03:17
seems this is right place for my feedbacks.
i don't have problems with mods, for me they do good job, but on forum can by maked some changes.
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members complain on deleting topics. it should be some discussion about it
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sometime players with ingame admin make problems when they mute some player (that can he hard sabotage in game for team and that player if muted player is not in same team where admin play. they should use !ignore /ignore like everyone and do futur actions after game). best way to use mute is if everyone in game or in 1 team complain on some annoying guy. another problem can be stealing owner in Lobby or in game (that happens sometime). also command !unhold doesn't work.
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http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,120706.0.html
there missing MH part, how to post MH report and MH report . that should be added for new members. probably 20-40% of new members reports are just locked because they don't understand how this forum work and how to report
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Home | Forum | Stats | How To | Rules | Ban | Unban | MH
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second thing.
many members have problem with English language. in Offtopic part (or new board) can be maked place where member who don't understand can ask on own language how to do something (of course if someone want and have time to help them, that can be free place for discussion). eurobattle.net have Balkan , CZ-SK , TR , RO. here can be add also France , Spain , Portugal, Russian, for everyone 1 topic and for other language, members can makes new topics.
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everyone want some chat. that is the most rejected topic here.
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" Who's Online " . every time when i want to see who is online (after log in), i must click Show - " Members only ". can someone set " Members only " to default , and as optional " Guests only   &   Everyone" ? who care about guests? everyone want to see some member actions, not guests...
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in stats page yellow guy is invisible
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,128451.msg443324.html#msg443324
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now my suggestions about some rules changes:
for saving game. there are more than 50% players who don't know what is save game and they got ban for that.
my idea is related with table of sanctions. for 1st time will be bether to increase ban for 1 day = 1st time 2 days , and every next time 5 days ban without permaban (permaban only if player have intension to make problems when someone lagging or similar)
with permaban players are forced to make new accounts and do same things again. with short bans they will start thinking about reading rules. biggest problem here
   Topic: Rules  (Read 44821 times)
        Topic: Bart's Chicks  (Read 64827 times)
they should be forced on some way to read rules and don't make futur mystakes like they do before.   
in channel lagabuse.com on battle.net can be added rules or some shortcut for rules
sometimes players make mystakes and got permabanned for ban avoiding on all accounts they have. it should exist difference between autoban and ban by moderator and best way is to ban player only on accounts where he did played in ban period. if player is banned and with intension break rules more and more, then go permaban on all active acc. always will be bad and good guys

Hello and thanks for such a long and useful post.

Regarding your suggestions, we've already added new boards for Balkan/RO/CZ-SK and Turkish languages. If there is any other country which requires another board let me know and I will be glad to add one.

1. We'd already talks about deleting topics, hopefully there will be some improvements from now on.

2. Yeah, we're aware of that, but it's really hard to control those things. Mainly because you can't never know if someone will flip out and go on crazy mode. However, if there is a case where some Staff members went crazy, abusing his powers we'll be taking appropriate measures towards them. Until Complaints board is not fixed, you can freely PM me with any type of complaints.

3. We'll discuss about adding MH to the top menu, but I guess it's a good idea.

4. I guess that chat is fine and can be tolerate as long as there are no flames and insults between members on the forum.

5. About the Who's Online matter, we'll have to look more about that.

6. Thanks for reporting that bug, we'll look into that as well.

7. Yeah, I guess some of those suggestions regarding the rules makes sense, so we'll discuss this interal to see if we can somehow incorporate this to our Rules.

Hopefully I've managed to answer on all points of your suggestions, if there is anything else feel free to write back.

Best regards,
Angel
LA Staff
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: MeKillU on March 23, 2013, 04:14
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biggest problem here
   Topic: Rules  (Read 44821 times)
   Topic: Bart's Chicks  (Read 64827 times)

man, rules are boring ( and srsly it doesnt count how many USERS viewed it its just views but this made me laugh ;) )
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: 23.23.23 on March 23, 2013, 06:57
can u make one player have only one account? every day number of players increase for 1000+ that make no sense.. than will be less leavers i think.. mutli acc sux....
and can u add some more achievements,for killing rosh,for wards,for deny creeps,for stealing aegis,and so on?
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Jesus_Save_US on March 23, 2013, 07:26
remove drago, blindjoker these guys never deserve to take staff plus angel man you should post this from long time cz i tried to open your eyes in this topic and they banned me.
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,115055.msg394689.html#msg394689\

Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Haxor on March 23, 2013, 08:22
1. You can add a country flag in stats near nicks.
2. When I click on the word "    K    D    A    CK    CD    NK" in the statistics should be set from the largest to the smallest.
;)
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: [Yuma]Psihijatar on March 23, 2013, 10:16
remove drago, blindjoker these guys never deserve to take staff plus angel man you should post this from long time cz i tried to open your eyes in this topic and they banned me.
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,115055.msg394689.html#msg394689\
Well i see your problem is that you still wan't be moderator of this community, but you don't like current staff well i just want to give you some tips:
 1. don't spam ,
 2. don't insult players or even better staff members ,
 3. don't open threads where you are criticizing staff members who are doing great job        here ,
 4. Without joker you would open new thread(s) and again spam with posts like this staff sux there is to much maphackers on this server .BB i hope you die.... Without xmany you would also spam with topics he insulted my family , my mother, my religion etc...
Well my dear friend as you can see we are doing all great job here.And we are trying to calm down that kids which are flaming/insulting/ruining/using mh in your games.
Cheers
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P.s
For Angel what do you think about adding some live stats?
For an example stats will show you ofcourse top 10 players , but also it would be nice to see Players with most denyed creeps per game , most cs per game , most kills ..
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Jesus_Save_US on March 23, 2013, 12:40
remove drago, blindjoker these guys never deserve to take staff plus angel man you should post this from long time cz i tried to open your eyes in this topic and they banned me.
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,115055.msg394689.html#msg394689\
Well i see your problem is that you still wan't be moderator of this community, but you don't like current staff well i just want to give you some tips:
 1. don't spam ,
 2. don't insult players or even better staff members ,
 3. don't open threads where you are criticizing staff members who are doing great job        here ,
 4. Without joker you would open new thread(s) and again spam with posts like this staff sux there is to much maphackers on this server .BB i hope you die.... Without xmany you would also spam with topics he insulted my family , my mother, my religion etc...
Well my dear friend as you can see we are doing all great job here.And we are trying to calm down that kids which are flaming/insulting/ruining/using mh in your games.
Cheers
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P.s
For Angel what do you think about adding some live stats?
For an example stats will show you ofcourse top 10 players , but also it would be nice to see Players with most denyed creeps per game , most cs per game , most kills ..

idc you, i want angel to give me a clear message + you cant put yourself in middle and you dont have the authority so stay in your request and stop putting fingers on me
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Angel on March 23, 2013, 12:46
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in stats page yellow guy is invisible
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,128451.msg443324.html#msg443324
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That 'bug' was fixed now.

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P.s
For Angel what do you think about adding some live stats?
For an example stats will show you ofcourse top 10 players , but also it would be nice to see Players with most denyed creeps per game , most cs per game , most kills ..

Yeah, we had something similiar a way before, we'll try to make something like that soon.

1. You can add a country flag in stats near nicks.
2. When I click on the word "    K    D    A    CK    CD    NK" in the statistics should be set from the largest to the smallest.
;)

Will check on this and get back to you.

can u make one player have only one account? every day number of players increase for 1000+ that make no sense.. than will be less leavers i think.. mutli acc sux....
and can u add some more achievements,for killing rosh,for wards,for deny creeps,for stealing aegis,and so on?

Well, players are allowed to use multy accounts as long as they don't break any rules. When it comes to ban avoiding, only in that case, multy accounts are not allowed. So we're 'fighting' against those multy accounters on daily basis.

We'll see what else can be added as achievements at the moment.

remove drago, blindjoker these guys never deserve to take staff plus angel man you should post this from long time cz i tried to open your eyes in this topic and they banned me.
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,115055.msg394689.html#msg394689\

Can you state any specific reason why they should be removed? Something like where did they made some mistake or abused their permissions? If so, please PM me with that.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Resor on March 23, 2013, 13:01
New changes at forum due users demand:

- color yellow on stats page has been replaced by dark yellow;
- updated link on top bar for "Ban" and "Unban" buttons;
- added "Report MH" button category;
- added "LA Staff (http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,61957.0.html)" button;

We are waiting for more ideas from users side.

Best regards,
Resor
LA Staff

Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: dRagoLjuB on March 23, 2013, 14:06
it would be awesome if you would make it like ->

you click on "Report MH"
than Maphackbanrequest
and than something like this appears
http://drago-parser.netai.net/index.php?page=page1175


or directly from stats site :
http://drago-parser.netai.net/index.php?page=page475

what do you think about that (for this users who know that, i re-edited it again)




& @ MH Report , when you open it
it says : How to ban cheater , imo this sounds shitty but at least change it to " How To Ban Cheater "
also at unabn - the > how to get unbanned
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Resor on March 23, 2013, 14:11
it would be awesome if you would make it like ->

you click on "Report MH"
than Maphackbanrequest
and than something like this appears
http://drago-parser.netai.net/index.php?page=page1175


or directly from stats site :
http://drago-parser.netai.net/index.php?page=page475

what do you think about that (for this users who know that, i re-edited it again)

We already talk about requests template feature.
We can make it happend, but is not easy as you think. Your help will be welcomed.

Cheers.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on March 23, 2013, 14:38
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biggest problem here
   Topic: Rules  (Read 44821 times)
   Topic: Bart's Chicks  (Read 64827 times)

man, rules are boring ( and srsly it doesnt count how many USERS viewed it its just views but this made me laugh ;) )
These numbers are irrelevant. In the Rules there aren't any new posts unlike in Bart's Chicks so there is no reason to check the rules every day.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: BLOODYALBOZ on March 23, 2013, 16:58
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There are some forum members in every section who assist moderators. they can be rewarded/promoted in section supporters (on some way part of staff). eurobattle.net have supporter list http://eurobattle.net/showgroups.php , it will be nice to LA have also + list of contributors.

Yes it would be nice to award those who rly care/contribute about this place.




1 - I think there should be added/fixed the complain board, so we avoid unnecessary spam/or hate threads.
2 - About the chat, i think only forum members ( not guests ) should have access at it and it should be related to forum account but decisions there should not affect on forum account.
3 - 
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can be added CCCP , Germany , France , Spain/Portugal
we can't add and moderate a board where we are not familiar with language.
AFAIK we know we don't have many or any ppl at all from this places, so it would be useless.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 23, 2013, 17:32
About deleting / locking topics :

You can send me a PM if you see some Forum Mod not doing his duty properly.Unfortunetly , i am not in the control of everthing , there are 5 people that i need look over.We are aware that it is killing activity and fun on forum and most members after that are not willing to even try starting new one.

As for Contributors , there were lists and lists of ideas , maybe admins will go with it , maybe not.But project is designed and it is all kept written at one place.

As for Country sections , we wont spam sections , we wanna test how it works and if it is succesfull , we can add more and more.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on March 23, 2013, 19:58
About supporters, it would be fine to award them somehow (not sure how tho) but if they would become part of staff (on any lvl) there would be only 2 groups of ppl on forum: Staff and New Member ranked ppl who report rule breakers from time to time.



One more thing.
In every new Ban/Unban request or MH report can by added spoiler with Rules and spoiler How to post Ban/Unban request or MH report
I don't understand why would anyone add Rules in his new ban request...



Update forum version.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: dRagoLjuB on March 23, 2013, 20:03
adding a "thx" button or "like" button , or solution #2 , to show for what user gave someone +1/-1 (for what post)
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: courierpower on March 23, 2013, 20:11
You may upload the pictures of new items (Abysall blade,ring of aquilla,rod of atos etc.) this would help stats page look better.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 23, 2013, 22:12
Hello,

guys is it possible to add psr for players that dropped not by their fault and their team has won.

They can use screen shot as proof that they did not plugged or something.

I mean I had dropped and my team won the game I lost psr and I had huge role in their early farm and getting items.

Its just idea,

I have posted it here http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,129342.msg446620.html#new cause I did not saw this thread so can you delete it from there please.

Angel we talked about some ppl in staff, anyhow its up to you will you or not remove them. My personal opinion is that they can do more harm (and they already did) than something useful.

What you need is fresh blood with new ideas, I know its hard to find it, but you should try.

Regards.

Mng
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Rio^ on March 24, 2013, 04:53
it would be awesome if you would make it like ->

you click on "Report MH"
than Maphackbanrequest
and than something like this appears
http://drago-parser.netai.net/index.php?page=page1175 (http://drago-parser.netai.net/index.php?page=page1175)


or directly from stats site :
http://drago-parser.netai.net/index.php?page=page475 (http://drago-parser.netai.net/index.php?page=page475)

what do you think about that (for this users who know that, i re-edited it again)




& @ MH Report , when you open it
it says : How to ban cheater , imo this sounds shitty but at least change it to " How To Ban Cheater "
also at unabn - the > how to get unbanned


They can make BAN tickets (for MH) at the top of the, with scrolling down...


Your username -
Ban username -
Link of the game -
Reason -
Explanation -


Quick write that, and send it. ( Before they write, it should BUMP some rules, which they need to follow and accept )


Admins, would have their options, to accept or refuse it. (accept ban/choose how long perma etc..)


So none would have problems with where to go to ban user/how to ban user etc...


A lot of options could be made, and a lot improvements can be done...
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 24, 2013, 16:58
Keep in mind we won't go for idea which takes a lot of coding.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: .maestro3berg. on March 24, 2013, 17:21
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sometime players with ingame admin make problems when they mute some player (that can he hard sabotage in game for team and that player if muted player is not in same team where admin play. they should use !ignore /ignore like everyone and do futur actions after game). best way to use mute is if everyone in game or in 1 team complain on some annoying guy. another problem can be stealing owner in Lobby or in game (that happens sometime). also command !unhold doesn't work.
I`m finding myself here. Yes, i mute players, but only if he flame. First i give him warn like "Please stop flame/insult or u will be muted + banned", secound time its !mute <player> 2min, third time its !mute <player> 10min etc. And I think that this is right and good way.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: sportakus on March 24, 2013, 18:00
you need a other tour admin

and demote bloody alboz and animalis

cheers
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: ColdWorld on March 24, 2013, 18:13
Remove -em from ladder games. (http://files.eurobattle.net/images/smilies/Pop.gif)
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: T-Bag on March 24, 2013, 19:17
Remove -em from ladder games. (http://files.eurobattle.net/images/smilies/Pop.gif)
Lots of ppl playing EM so it wont be really good idea IMO...but separate EM ladder from non-EM could do.
Maybe just change trigger like: "!" for EM  and "?" for non-EM... since "." is dedicated to non-ladder games.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 24, 2013, 19:46
you need a other tour admin

and demote bloody alboz and animalis

cheers

As once before said , send links with proper reasons to his supervisor.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: BLOODYALBOZ on March 24, 2013, 20:15
you need a other tour admin

and demote bloody alboz and animalis

cheers

As once before said , send links with proper reasons to his supervisor.
He is demanding for another Tour Admin?

In this case send reasons to our GA's.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: donjacrtasamir on March 24, 2013, 20:51
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sometime players with ingame admin make problems when they mute some player (that can he hard sabotage in game for team and that player if muted player is not in same team where admin play. they should use !ignore /ignore like everyone and do futur actions after game). best way to use mute is if everyone in game or in 1 team complain on some annoying guy. another problem can be stealing owner in Lobby or in game (that happens sometime). also command !unhold doesn't work.
I`m finding myself here. Yes, i mute players, but only if he flame. First i give him warn like "Please stop flame/insult or u will be muted + banned", secound time its !mute <player> 2min, third time its !mute <player> 10min etc. And I think that this is right and good way.


why don't  you just use  !ignore ????

if you mute him he cannot communicate with his teammates...
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Blind_Joker on March 24, 2013, 20:55
I muted only players cause of 2 reasons.. 1 was flame since he couldnt flame more (after some period unmuted)
2 - Mhers.
Ignore would not help here.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: donjacrtasamir on March 24, 2013, 20:59
I muted only players cause of 2 reasons.. 1 was flame since he couldnt flame more (after some period unmuted)
2 - Mhers.
Ignore would not help here.

i can understand the second reason , but for the first reason there is !ignore  and everybody should use it ...
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Platin on March 24, 2013, 21:07
I muted only players cause of 2 reasons.. 1 was flame since he couldnt flame more (after some period unmuted)
2 - Mhers.
Ignore would not help here.

i can understand the second reason , but for the first reason there is !ignore  and everybody should use it ...

If I catch mh-er in game, I mute that player sure (after being %100 sure)

About that flaming; I personaly !mute a player who is hard flaming to someone for just 1 min, then unmute him with saying "Take this as a warn orelse It will lead you ban" I think being 1 min muted is much more mercyfull sanction than getting banned...
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: End on March 24, 2013, 21:44
Is !ignore command gonna stop him from flaming? No! Mute is.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: jeandarc on March 24, 2013, 21:54
With all duo RESPECT to all of you but all what you said (about not muting players) is just pure BULLSHIT.

If someone calls you even a "noob" you will permanently mute him cuz you can't handle your cockyness to go lower.

You should just simply use !ignore and ban the player which caused game ruin by flaming you or the others, obviously after game ends.

Do you really think there is some mod in every single game to stop someone from flaming? Absolutely NOT!
There are two choices to deal with this:

1. Bot auto mutting the player who uses swearing words IN GAME.
2. Remove !mute command
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 24, 2013, 22:22
We are probably getting a bot db of flame words , so when bot recognises that word , it will turn whole sentance in something funny.For example :

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A : I f*** your mother
Bot turns that into : I love picking flowers in the field or w/e.

Problem is to make very good db of those words because people are gonna avoid using those words and write something like this.

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I f@ck your m0ther

So turning this idea in something real is hard work + there are many countries on this server , we need curse words from all of them and different variations how those words can be used.

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Muting is the way treating some retards in game.Mods are informed not to use it much , only in specific ocasions.I personally , if i see player cursing , warn him first , and if he continues i will mute him for certain period of time (aprx. just few seconds in order to see what can happen ) if he continues i just increase mute time over and over.Other cases are when i see MHer or whole team cant stand one retard in team , spamming whole bunch of bullshit , you can use ignore , but mute is more effective as for me.Imo retards like that deserve to be muted (this happens 1/50 games )

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About em , admins decided it is better to be kept , because there are lots of noob players who play em , and once you get around 1650 psr games , you dont see EM game so often , it gives really small PSR ammount.So players who play -em , will be kept in the range around 1500-1650 max ).So both sides are satified , both pros and noobs.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: BLOODYALBOZ on March 25, 2013, 16:17
1 - Yes it would be good that reserved players can be kicked too, and not only reserved player but even game owner.
2 - idk about that, angel somewhere gave an explenation of that in private section but i don't remember.

3 - it has already been discussed and for sure admins will take this in consideration cuz it's an everyday day problem while playing dota on LA.

4 - fountain farming can be avoided if people use !FF command. Anyway if we are on the a situation like in nr.3 than it should not be allowed. But if your nr3 suggestion get's approved than there is no need to implement something new about fountain farming.

5 - !mute command should be used for MH-ers and rule breakers, like those who flame.
Many times in-game people from other team tell me on chat to mute somebody cuz he is flaming and he is ruining their game etc...
Ofc there can be abuse of this, but whenever you chat's abuses like this just report them and abusers will be punished.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: T-Bag on March 25, 2013, 16:44
More changes suggestions:
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Fountain camping with sniper, pudge and other heroes can be annoying and that is allowed.
In rules "Fountain farming while no enemies playing, may be considered as exploit situation in order to cheat player statictics" is forbiden to farm kill stats only if there are no enemy players in game. Some players won't finish and won't attack towers and rax. This is big hole in rules. They stay 5 minutes, sometimes more than 10 and make more and more kills. My opinion about stats farm by base camping is to be forbiden, or allow players in loser team in this specific situation to leave game and after unban request to be unbanned without warn. Rarely happens to player in loser team won't leave game after all in that team leave and staying in game with intention to allow opponents to farm stats
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It IS banable... lets say, if they push to your base and then they do max 5 kills (for whole team) there and then they will call back (or destroy base) lets say those 5 kills is just a reward... But if they stay there for 10mins, that is Fountain Camping - Stats Cheating and its banable atm.
Same if whole team !FF and somebody stays there and makes 20 kills on leavers, its Stats Cheating and leads to ban.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: dRagoLjuB on March 25, 2013, 17:15
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Same if whole team !FF and somebody stays there and makes 20 kills on leavers, its Stats Cheating and leads to ban
if everyone !ff-s bot saves the stats , what after ff happens bot doesnt count afaik
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on March 25, 2013, 17:15
About that !mute, I warn flamer first, then !mute him for short period of time, if that won't help I mute him for longer and longer duration.

Yes, when muted he can't communicate with team but would you consider the following as communication?

Noob_Flamer [Allies]: fuck you mom void
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: retarded cunt help me
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: and dont run
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: piece of shit
...
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: retards
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: nabs fuckers
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: now die
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: noooooooooooobs
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: nooooooooooobs
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: loose like retarder piece of shit
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: fuck you

I muted only players cause of 2 reasons.. 1 was flame since he couldnt flame more (after some period unmuted)
2 - Mhers.
Ignore would not help here.

i can understand the second reason , but for the first reason there is !ignore  and everybody should use it ...
Actually !mute would be better and it would ruin the game less - if I mute him and unmute him 5 minutes later, every one can hear him and talk about strategy or w/e.
But if everyone will !ignore him, guess how many ppl are gonna !unignore him...
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: donjacrtasamir on March 25, 2013, 19:31
About that !mute, I warn flamer first, then !mute him for short period of time, if that won't help I mute him for longer and longer duration.

Yes, when muted he can't communicate with team but would you consider the following as communication?

Noob_Flamer [Allies]: fuck you mom void
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: retarded cunt help me
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: and dont run
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: piece of shit
...
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: retards
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: nabs fuckers
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: now die
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: noooooooooooobs
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: nooooooooooobs
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: loose like retarder piece of shit
Noob_Flamer [Allies]: fuck you

I muted only players cause of 2 reasons.. 1 was flame since he couldnt flame more (after some period unmuted)
2 - Mhers.
Ignore would not help here.

i can understand the second reason , but for the first reason there is !ignore  and everybody should use it ...
Actually !mute would be better and it would ruin the game less - if I mute him and unmute him 5 minutes later, every one can hear him and talk about strategy or w/e.
But if everyone will !ignore him, guess how many ppl are gonna !unignore him...

let's say we are friends. and my friend is flaming you because he can... so if you mute him you are  " damaging " our game because i can't communicate with him. if you just ignore him , i can still communicate with him...


Is !ignore command gonna stop him from flaming? No! Mute is.

no comment ....
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on March 25, 2013, 19:49
Well, I had one example, you now have other one.

Ofc situation matters, I won't !mute you when you say "fuck your mom" once but I will if you'll keep insulting all the time.
As I said, I usually warn a flamer first and when his answer is "fuck off you piece of shit", I !mute him for a while. Then he shouldn't go full retard and he should calm down.

Also muted players like to whisper me, and there are 2 kinds of msgs:
1) Unmute pls (I'll stop it)
2) Fuck you tard admin etc etc etc

This also matters, at least in my case.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 25, 2013, 20:11
efko

Just a reminder. Admins ( or more correct Resor ) won't make ovecomplicated rules , like we need to check if someone really stats abused on fountain / farming in forest etc. Why ? It is really complicated to work with those cases.And even he gets banned , he will just make new account , and someone spent 40 mins just to see if someone really stats abused + it is all subjective point of view.And staying in fountain is just retarded , you can FF or you can run in the back.How simple is that ?
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Platin on March 25, 2013, 21:16
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If someone love to use mh and enjoy in that, let him to do that and punish after game (in game, all actions affect on playing moral for everyone). Take all this for consideration and talk about some new ideas about game and forum. This topic becomes duel mods vs players for !mute command

I totally disagree with you. If I catch mh-er I mute him surely. You know why ? For not letting cooperate with others. I watched a lot of replays most of mh-ers giving tips to other team mates "bara charged on you, rosh, care top (while someone would gank bot) etc..." So should I let enemy team cheat all ? Just for reminding; cooperating with mh-er is bannable.

This is for everyone: If you have spesific situation about abusing !mute command or if you think someone muted a player because of ridiculous reason then just pm to any of admins. You can be sure there will be sanction about that person.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: T-Bag on March 25, 2013, 22:05
I remember year ago, maybe more i've played dota on PD, opponents had sniper. They rape us, snip got 2x divine rapiers, buriza and more items, he stay at our fountain and killing us in 1 hit more than 5 min. Nobody wants to leave game and get banned, snip laugh on that (there was no posible way to move with hero or run back - only watching what sniper do - imagine yourself in that situation)...For good players some things are simple, for noobs not and most of players are noobs.  About Resor, he do great job. I understand what and how they work. Every decision is subjective point of view

Im sure if u leave game like that and then u make unban req with this explanation, u will get unbanned and that person "sniper in this case" would be banned.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 25, 2013, 22:38
I dont get the point of your reply . You let them at fountain in first time , you can just hide and wait for creeps to destroy the base.Just alt tab and dont give a shit about it.It is like forbidening them to own you.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Jesus_Save_US on March 25, 2013, 22:39
guys its in the end a public game you can't change things that can be broken... can you make rules if there isnt someone who is broking it?
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on March 26, 2013, 12:43
I dont get the point of your reply . You let them at fountain in first time , you can just hide and wait for creeps to destroy the base.Just alt tab and dont give a shit about it.It is like forbidening them to own you.
There are cases when you can't hide - Pudge can hook you on spawn, Furi can use Sprout, Dark Seer can use Vacuum, any stunner can help the team to get you, CM can freeze the fountain, Trax or Sniper insta rape you on spawn (with slow/ministun)...
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Bart on March 26, 2013, 14:39
its part of a game lol

u stomped them hard so u can farm fountain :D what more u can do :D
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on March 26, 2013, 17:55
Removing !sync command would help to prevent situations like this:
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4969174

They destroyed the Tree and left but because someone lost connection bot didn't recognize that and autobanned them.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: div.ide on March 26, 2013, 18:08
u stomped them hard so u can farm fountain :D what more u can do :D
You can simply end the game... ? You know, that big, well armored building in the middle of enemy base (the one that doesn't shoot at you). It's destructable no matter how one-sided your game was.

Removing !sync command
Support. Lost count how many times I did that already, but still, support.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Bart on March 26, 2013, 19:41
no shit mr.sherlock :D

but myb people like to torture nabs and farm them :D
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: mrNiceguy on March 26, 2013, 22:40
You can simply end the game... ? You know, that big, well armored building in the middle of enemy base (the one that doesn't shoot at you). It's destructable no matter how one-sided your game was.

if your team is retarded to type !ff then they deserve to be killed all over again.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: [Yuma]Psihijatar on March 27, 2013, 08:44
You can simply end the game... ? You know, that big, well armored building in the middle of enemy base (the one that doesn't shoot at you). It's destructable no matter how one-sided your game was.

if your team is retarded to type !ff then they deserve to be killed all over again.
Y i agree with you but like you know there is always some smatarass in team which don't wanan ff and  who thinks that he can win solo game and the main score is 40 16.If you votekick him he will type unban req i with reason i think we could win that game.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: div.ide on March 27, 2013, 16:42
Usually I'm that smartass, but rather than hoping to win the game, I just buy my force staff and counter-camp them :P In most cases they will be confident enough to try and get owned, in remaining swift !ff seals the deal.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: SurGeoN on March 29, 2013, 18:58
Hello.

I want to report Rockafella for abusing with his power.We were playing same team on IHRL.On min 42 one guy from our team left the game.That guy is called NiGhT^^StAlKeR,ex IHRL admin.Before he left he said this :
(41:55) Geh.TT.: nice game, go unvouch this shit player
(41:57) SF_ULTY: Geh.TT. has left the game voluntarily.
(41:57) Geh.TT.: Left
After this game Rockafella unvouched me with reason that i dont know to move in map and dont know to buy  :o .I pmed him asking other reasons bcs thats was not strong reason.I got vouched bcs i know to buy and i have decent dota knowledge.Later i check game chat and i saw phrase up.I pmed again Rockafella
im sure that some1 pmed u to unvouch me.
he replyed me with this :
not someone, I actually didnt even unvouch you, night^^stalker did
How can unvoched me a guy that play on your bot and not some1 from staff? Thats pure abuse from Rockafella.

I want to add another thing.Before some days ggwpthx4psr was banned for 3 days on eurobattle.net
http://eurobattle.net/threads/191095-Flame-ggwpthx4psr?p=1583060#post1583060
After that he played again with another account http://ihrl.leaguebots.com/userstats.php?
user=wanna.be.carry
Rules for that are clear enough:
5. Only 1 IHRL account per user is allowed.
- Staff members may have 2 IHRL accounts.
The point of this topic its not to vouch me again bcs with those players around we should act like they say.
I just want to report that pure abuse with his power.

Regards.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: div.ide on March 29, 2013, 19:13
Can you provide me any specific evidence where he was behaving bad? If so, please PM me. I would be more than glad to help you.

If so, please PM me.

PM me

If there is anyone else unfamiliar with that abbreviation, or with personal messaging system itself, I'll be glad to explain. Free private lessons, starting now.

Now seriously, stop embarassing yourselves in public. For your own good. Please, I actually beg you.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Blind_Joker on March 29, 2013, 19:14
Hello.

I want to report Rockafella for abusing with his power.We were playing same team on IHRL.On min 42 one guy from our team left the game.That guy is called NiGhT^^StAlKeR,ex IHRL admin.Before he left he said this :
(41:55) Geh.TT.: nice game, go unvouch this shit player
(41:57) SF_ULTY: Geh.TT. has left the game voluntarily.
(41:57) Geh.TT.: Left
After this game Rockafella unvouched me with reason that i dont know to move in map and dont know to buy  :o .I pmed him asking other reasons bcs thats was not strong reason.I got vouched bcs i know to buy and i have decent dota knowledge.Later i check game chat and i saw phrase up.I pmed again Rockafella
im sure that some1 pmed u to unvouch me.
he replyed me with this :
not someone, I actually didnt even unvouch you, night^^stalker did
How can unvoched me a guy that play on your bot and not some1 from staff? Thats pure abuse from Rockafella.

I want to add another thing.Before some days ggwpthx4psr was banned for 3 days on eurobattle.net
http://eurobattle.net/threads/191095-Flame-ggwpthx4psr?p=1583060#post1583060
After that he played again with another account http://ihrl.leaguebots.com/userstats.php?
user=wanna.be.carry
Rules for that are clear enough:
5. Only 1 IHRL account per user is allowed.
- Staff members may have 2 IHRL accounts.
The point of this topic its not to vouch me again bcs with those players around we should act like they say.
I just want to report that pure abuse with his power.

Regards.


Rocka is lvl5 = admin so he can do w/e he wants if he considers it as good move. GGWP was locked and unlocked during he played on another account. Staff members of IHRL are able to change something in rules if they consider it as good move.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: SurGeoN on March 29, 2013, 19:20
Rocka is lvl5 = admin so he can do w/e he wants if he considers it as good move. GGWP was locked and unlocked during he played on another account. Staff members of IHRL are able to change something in rules if they consider it as good move.
I've posted it up.Rocka was forced by N^^S to unvouch me.He admited it on that pm.
IHRL members must use only 1 account.Only IHRL staff members can use 2 accounts.Why u vouched him when he had an account vouched?U did abuse too.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 29, 2013, 20:21
You can simply end the game... ? You know, that big, well armored building in the middle of enemy base (the one that doesn't shoot at you). It's destructable no matter how one-sided your game was.

if your team is retarded to type !ff then they deserve to be killed all over again.

That

There are million of solutions to this problem.Pudge is one big problem but he can be pushed to fountain via force staff when he eats someone and he gets killed because force staff just does push w/o canceling ulti , but if you dont realise that in 5 mins nor you ff , it is your problem not theirs.And if they manage to destroy fountain , thats just hilarious.And letting sniper getting 2 divines before 25 mins is also hilarious.

Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on March 29, 2013, 21:10
If your teammates are too retarded to vote !ff, they maybe deserve to be killed over and over, but why would YOU deserve that? Some idiot with furi can tp away and watch you getting killed over and over again.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: SurGeoN on March 29, 2013, 22:01
HI,its me again.

I reported N^^S bcs he left the game and was banned 1 day.
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,129817.0.html

Can som1 tell me who unbanned him and why?
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Bart on March 29, 2013, 22:04
man u are just hater

what dota knowledge are you speaking??

even trapem 1500 doesnt go aquila ring on wr + pt + nothing at 25mins being useless for team

when u were 1v1 versus clock.. tell me more please.



Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: LEGEN-WAIT-DARY on March 29, 2013, 22:05
He helped big time for IHRL can't u give a break and leave the guy alone? Don't act like a kid surgeon it's not like you are not gonna sleep tonight if he isn't banned ffs -.-
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: SurGeoN on March 29, 2013, 22:09
man u are just hater

what dota knowledge are you speaking??

even trapem 1500 doesnt go aquila ring on wr + pt + nothing at 25mins being useless for team

when u were 1v1 versus clock.. tell me more please.

yes,im hater.u are so pathetic.
im speaking about IHRL rules here not for my items on that game.

He helped big time for IHRL can't u give a break and leave the guy alone? Don't act like a kid surgeon it's not like you are not gonna sleep tonight if he isn't banned ffs -.-
I know who he is and i dont care about him.He got banned for 1 day and som1 unbanned im and thats its not fair.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: maciekg9-slaveofBart on March 29, 2013, 22:30
From IHRL chat room:
"I unbanned him, he suffered enought. Night Stalker is an inventor of this league, I respect him and so u should do it and in his place i would be also pissed off when I'd had to play with aquila sny wr. Now "End of discussion", dont make any more drama here since u are not ihrl member anymore."
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Blind_Joker on March 29, 2013, 22:59
You can simply end the game... ? You know, that big, well armored building in the middle of enemy base (the one that doesn't shoot at you). It's destructable no matter how one-sided your game was.

if your team is retarded to type !ff then they deserve to be killed all over again.

That

There are million of solutions to this problem.Pudge is one big problem but he can be pushed to fountain via force staff when he eats someone and he gets killed because force staff just does push w/o canceling ulti , but if you dont realise that in 5 mins nor you ff , it is your problem not theirs.And if they manage to destroy fountain , thats just hilarious.And letting sniper getting 2 divines before 25 mins is also hilarious.
If your teammates are too retarded to vote !ff, they maybe deserve to be killed over and over, but why would YOU deserve that? Some idiot with furi can tp away and watch you getting killed over and over again.
I'm talking about my game played 1,5-2,5 years ago, before i join this community. In that moment i didn't know how to check someone, and what to do. Every game was apem (notr / tr).  ;D
Sniper was at our fountain before min 10 with good items. Don't remember for divine rapiers for time when he got them, maybe before 25 min, maybe after. When one guy check that sniper, sniper was with unthinkable stats for us in that moment. I remember that game and my point was to protect myself and other players if i/or other players leave game for that reason. Why should i waste my brain more than 10 min by watching how some idiot killing us every 30 seconds again and again. And about fountain killing should be added rule where is forbidden to do that. Game is not created for things like destroying fountain. Imagine player from top50 in apem meganoob max1400 PSR with sniper. All noobs have stats 1-5k/10-15d..
We didn't know what is force stuff in that moment and how to use it, maybe force didn't exist in that moment (i think item was created after some period, not sure)

If fountain has some HP and armor its made so it can be destroyed :) And if fountain was invulnerable then its made to destroy throne :P
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: SurGeoN on March 29, 2013, 23:23
Hello again.

For me that case is closed.i have againts IHRL vouchers,Hacks ADM and some asslickers.When N^^S was in bad situation no1 supported him and thats the only truth.I got and Angel's answer,his silence.

Have a good nigh all of u!
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 29, 2013, 23:50
Ok lets not discuss more about IHRL problems here.Like Angel said , these things are discussed with superiors of those people , and you can check who is whos superior on staff tree.

Any other suggestions about improvements?
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Resor on March 30, 2013, 08:44
I know what you've ment. We working on that.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: ColdWorld on March 30, 2013, 09:16


About Topic:

Resor, what do you think about country ladder? I think its not so hard to add that. Its cool and ppl will like it.

Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: iNevermore on March 30, 2013, 09:59


About Topic:

Resor, what do you think about country ladder? I think its not so hard to add that. Its cool and ppl will like it.

Hard +1
adding to that leaders in -cs, kills, assists, denys.. you know, all the stuff :p
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 30, 2013, 10:04
Hard to happen , already denied several times.But Mun was admin back then.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: LordDoom on March 30, 2013, 12:05
@surgeon.. Man what are u doing in IHRL, when u cant win in noob games even LOL
@fountain farm.. that is so much fun. I wuld make it when throne/tree is destroyed that u can still kill them in  ;D
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on March 30, 2013, 12:59
Any other posts about IHRL will be deleted and users will eb warned.Stay on topic.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Haxor on March 30, 2013, 13:05
1. You can add a country flag in stats near nicks.
2. When I click on the word "    K    D    A    CK    CD    NK" in the statistics should be set from the largest to the smallest.
;)

!!
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: dRagoLjuB on March 30, 2013, 15:11
some old stuff from me


Removing Synclimit -
99% of users do not know what sync is doing , they always write it when they see someone tries to reconnect (ofc the player will drop in 90% of cases)

Removing Votekick when game is paused/in lagg screen mode
When someone tries to reconnect mostly no one wants to wait that he reconnects so they write !votekick <player> and everyone writes !yes (in 50% game is ruined because no one wants to wait 5 min)

Remove !from command
Mostly people kick tr because "all" of them got mh , thats not true. There are some pro turks, game should be based on psr not nationality. And if no one knows where is he from he cant say EXAMPLE : cetnik, ustasa etc. Means rare nationality flame

Enable to votekick host
Why should players not be able to kick host? Sometimes host gets pissed and starts to feed and do shit, problem is he cant be kicked because he is "host" , what means "host" , host is just a random player which writes some commands like !pub xxx , !start , and thats why he shouldnt be kickable ?

Adding !pause command
Every player is able to use 2x !pause for 1min, after one min passed the game do not resume till someone writes !resume/!unpause. Ofc abusing that command will lead to a warn/ban (abuse : Pausing for fun / pausing in battle) and only bot can pause/unpause.

Combine Forum Account + Gaming Acc
An option in profile to add his / her game acc, than he gets a key/code , now he has to go ingame and reply to bot !account (dont have to be !account command) <key/code> and bot whispers approved . ofc user MUST have the same ip bcs it could be faked. After thats done when user clicks on his profile he see a tab called stats, it writes down his stats (shouldnt be that hard imo bcs u have just to copy paste the code from stats site , at least i think it xD)  and  a link which relinks to his nickname on stats site , and if we add achievements we could see them in users profile . And if another user give a look on his profile he ll see his achievements and stats + stats page link of the guy.

Remove KDA CS in game lobby
Some ppl with lets say 1700 psr have maybe a huge amount of deaths because they play often support heros. And ofc they die many times. And maybe host is a retard and see nice psr but he dies to often , !KICK. Ppl should only see what leaver percentage they got and how many psr

Adding wards count & chick in stats site
I dont mean with that to add to every game, in Player Ladder Stats (http://lagabuse.com/stats/player/1/50euro/ladder-stats/1/1/1) smth like Wards : 50 , Chicks : 50 . And if that happens to add it to the "Combine Forum Account + Gaming Acc" idea also

Must be logged in to view Stats site
Players MUST be logged to view the stats site. It could increase the forum activity

Auto. pm when the users logs first time in
When a loggs as first time in he should receive a pm where he gets everything explained about forum , rules , FAQ and ...

When game is starting bot whispers to all players send-slap so they dont afk

Adding !min psr & max
Its kind boring to write always !rall , and than !kick 4  8 9
A simple command like that would be awesome

Banned player joining game
IF a banned player joins a game he should be kicked and get a whisper from pd.eu You are banned , if you think you are unfair banned please visit our forum and write a unbanreq

No unban
IF someone leaves = BAN , whatever happens. His modem burns , cat pissed on pc , WE DO NOT CARE , he ruined of 9 ppl the game. Same for afk/flame. When the player joins the first time a LA game bot should write " Please reg at our forum to get the info about our rules and ..." so if he say " ohh sorry i didnt know it was not allowed" we can say you received a whisper of our bot , your fault , BANNED ! Ofc there will be some unbans but only at some cases. At Maphackers, maphackers will get a second chance after #month ,  after we rewrite our rules we will point out that hacking is PERMA BAN, with no excuse .


this one is nice imo
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,60390.0.html

and we could add awards for funniest picture, gfx winner at sotw20, funniest joke, most reported banreq / mh reqs in this week/month etc

Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: [Yuma]Psihijatar on March 30, 2013, 15:41
Drama queen -.-
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: shpura on March 30, 2013, 17:40
That's why fountain dota 2 can't be destroyed :P
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Shoot.2.Death on March 30, 2013, 19:54
some old stuff from me


Removing Synclimit -
99% of users do not know what sync is doing , they always write it when they see someone tries to reconnect (ofc the player will drop in 90% of cases)

Removing Votekick when game is paused/in lagg screen mode
When someone tries to reconnect mostly no one wants to wait that he reconnects so they write !votekick <player> and everyone writes !yes (in 50% game is ruined because no one wants to wait 5 min)

Remove !from command
Mostly people kick tr because "all" of them got mh , thats not true. There are some pro turks, game should be based on psr not nationality. And if no one knows where is he from he cant say EXAMPLE : cetnik, ustasa etc. Means rare nationality flame

Enable to votekick host
Why should players not be able to kick host? Sometimes host gets pissed and starts to feed and do shit, problem is he cant be kicked because he is "host" , what means "host" , host is just a random player which writes some commands like !pub xxx , !start , and thats why he shouldnt be kickable ?

Adding !pause command
Every player is able to use 2x !pause for 1min, after one min passed the game do not resume till someone writes !resume/!unpause. Ofc abusing that command will lead to a warn/ban (abuse : Pausing for fun / pausing in battle) and only bot can pause/unpause.

Combine Forum Account + Gaming Acc
An option in profile to add his / her game acc, than he gets a key/code , now he has to go ingame and reply to bot !account (dont have to be !account command) <key/code> and bot whispers approved . ofc user MUST have the same ip bcs it could be faked. After thats done when user clicks on his profile he see a tab called stats, it writes down his stats (shouldnt be that hard imo bcs u have just to copy paste the code from stats site , at least i think it xD)  and  a link which relinks to his nickname on stats site , and if we add achievements we could see them in users profile . And if another user give a look on his profile he ll see his achievements and stats + stats page link of the guy.

Remove KDA CS in game lobby
Some ppl with lets say 1700 psr have maybe a huge amount of deaths because they play often support heros. And ofc they die many times. And maybe host is a retard and see nice psr but he dies to often , !KICK. Ppl should only see what leaver percentage they got and how many psr

Adding wards count & chick in stats site
I dont mean with that to add to every game, in Player Ladder Stats (http://lagabuse.com/stats/player/1/50euro/ladder-stats/1/1/1) smth like Wards : 50 , Chicks : 50 . And if that happens to add it to the "Combine Forum Account + Gaming Acc" idea also

Must be logged in to view Stats site
Players MUST be logged to view the stats site. It could increase the forum activity

Auto. pm when the users logs first time in
When a loggs as first time in he should receive a pm where he gets everything explained about forum , rules , FAQ and ...

When game is starting bot whispers to all players send-slap so they dont afk

Adding !min psr & max
Its kind boring to write always !rall , and than !kick 4  8 9
A simple command like that would be awesome

Banned player joining game
IF a banned player joins a game he should be kicked and get a whisper from pd.eu You are banned , if you think you are unfair banned please visit our forum and write a unbanreq

No unban
IF someone leaves = BAN , whatever happens. His modem burns , cat pissed on pc , WE DO NOT CARE , he ruined of 9 ppl the game. Same for afk/flame. When the player joins the first time a LA game bot should write " Please reg at our forum to get the info about our rules and ..." so if he say " ohh sorry i didnt know it was not allowed" we can say you received a whisper of our bot , your fault , BANNED ! Ofc there will be some unbans but only at some cases. At Maphackers, maphackers will get a second chance after #month ,  after we rewrite our rules we will point out that hacking is PERMA BAN, with no excuse .


this one is nice imo
http://lagabuse.com/forum/index.php/topic,60390.0.html

and we could add awards for funniest picture, gfx winner at sotw20, funniest joke, most reported banreq / mh reqs in this week/month etc
damn u read my mind I support all of ur ideas :o
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on March 30, 2013, 20:13
About that "Who's online", Members only is set as default but is shows everyone (members and guests).
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: kingW3 on April 19, 2013, 20:20
About that "Who's online", Members only is set as default but is shows everyone (members and guests).
It was bether before change. Now must go "Everyone" , and then "Members only". Before change was bether  :D

Can someone change current LA time? Most of players are from middle Europe and maybe will be best to be middle Europe time?
You can just refresh,well you can change it at look and layout(i think)
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Platin on April 19, 2013, 20:45
@50Euro: here my opinions for your suggestions.

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Removing Synclimit -
99% of users do not know what sync is doing , they always write it when they see someone tries to reconnect (ofc the player will drop in 90% of cases)

No. It's neccesary command imo. I.e. Whenever somebody have around 120 ping, !sync 120 could save other players from "waiting for player" screen and it can save that lagger player from shit screen freezing. However, you're right that most of ppl doesn't know what is sync. I saw many times that player is setting sync to 500 right after game begins. There can be rework on rules about sync command usage when it is used in very unneccesary way. Overall, sync command is quite usefull in pro hands.

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Removing Votekick when game is paused/in lagg screen mode
When someone tries to reconnect mostly no one wants to wait that he reconnects so they write !votekick <player> and everyone writes !yes (in 50% game is ruined because no one wants to wait 5 min)

Not neccesarry. That player can claim ban request against that ppl as a votekick command abuse.

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Remove !from command
Mostly people kick tr because "all" of them got mh , thats not true. There are some pro turks, game should be based on psr not nationality. And if no one knows where is he from he cant say EXAMPLE : cetnik, ustasa etc. Means rare nationality flame

No.  TBH even I don't prefer to play with TR players. Since host have right to decide with who will he play, that command should stay. Plus when someone connects from far place, it can be problem in games about delay.

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Enable to votekick host
Why should players not be able to kick host? Sometimes host gets pissed and starts to feed and do shit, problem is he cant be kicked because he is "host" , what means "host" , host is just a random player which writes some commands like !pub xxx , !start , and thats why he shouldnt be kickable ?

!support

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Adding !pause command
Every player is able to use 2x !pause for 1min, after one min passed the game do not resume till someone writes !resume/!unpause. Ofc abusing that command will lead to a warn/ban (abuse : Pausing for fun / pausing in battle) and only bot can pause/unpause.

NO. Sometimes, dw3gparser or drm can have delay between actions due massive game pausing. So it would be our big problem on  ban requests or mh reports.

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Combine Forum Account + Gaming Acc
An option in profile to add his / her game acc, than he gets a key/code , now he has to go ingame and reply to bot !account (dont have to be !account command) <key/code> and bot whispers approved . ofc user MUST have the same ip bcs it could be faked. After thats done when user clicks on his profile he see a tab called stats, it writes down his stats (shouldnt be that hard imo bcs u have just to copy paste the code from stats site , at least i think it xD)  and  a link which relinks to his nickname on stats site , and if we add achievements we could see them in users profile . And if another user give a look on his profile he ll see his achievements and stats + stats page link of the guy.

Good idea.

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Remove KDA CS in game lobby
Some ppl with lets say 1700 psr have maybe a huge amount of deaths because they play often support heros. And ofc they die many times. And maybe host is a retard and see nice psr but he dies to often , !KICK. Ppl should only see what leaver percentage they got and how many psr

No. if k/d/a is something like 3/4/5 with than surely he is noob. Doesnt matter how much psr. I always check assist ratio for this cases.

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Adding wards count & chick in stats site
I dont mean with that to add to every game, in Player Ladder Stats (http://lagabuse.com/stats/player/1/50euro/ladder-stats/1/1/1) smth like Wards : 50 , Chicks : 50 . And if that happens to add it to the "Combine Forum Account + Gaming Acc" idea also

It's good idea for observer ward only. Since there is no timelimit for sentry and chicken; it can be boostable easly.

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Must be logged in to view Stats site
Players MUST be logged to view the stats site. It could increase the forum activity

Auto. pm when the users logs first time in
When a loggs as first time in he should receive a pm where he gets everything explained about forum , rules , FAQ and

Good ideas.

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When game is starting bot whispers to all players send-slap so they dont afk

No need for this since gproxy sound says "game started"

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Adding !min psr & max
Its kind boring to write always !rall , and than !kick 4  8 9
A simple command like that would be awesome

Banned player joining game
IF a banned player joins a game he should be kicked and get a whisper from pd.eu You are banned , if you think you are unfair banned please visit our forum and write a unbanreq

Good ideas indeed.

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No unban
IF someone leaves = BAN , whatever happens. His modem burns , cat pissed on pc , WE DO NOT CARE , he ruined of 9 ppl the game. Same for afk/flame. When the player joins the first time a LA game bot should write " Please reg at our forum to get the info about our rules and ..." so if he say " ohh sorry i didnt know it was not allowed" we can say you received a whisper of our bot , your fault , BANNED ! Ofc there will be some unbans but only at some cases. At Maphackers, maphackers will get a second chance after #month ,  after we rewrite our rules we will point out that hacking is PERMA BAN, with no excuse .

Well, Hackers are not getting unbanned. Never. At least from my side. But for other cases (modem burns etc..) it would just increase time cuz of getting new account.. Ignorance of rules is not excuse already.

Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: ilikedat on July 19, 2013, 13:54
this topic is forgotten or ...?
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Astaroth on July 19, 2013, 14:12
this topic is forgotten or ...?
Yes, I guess so.
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: Natura Sonoris on July 19, 2013, 17:21
yep
Title: Re: The Changes
Post by: jeandarc on July 19, 2013, 17:23
this was more like a troll thread xD