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Title: 6.75 sucks
Post by: scurtel2 on October 02, 2012, 21:15
Barat nerfed really bad.. All other changes make dota really boring.. New heroes are not fun either.. Really boring to play with.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: hot10000 on October 02, 2012, 21:20
everybody said same about 6.74 so stop whining
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: donjacrtasamir on October 02, 2012, 21:27
Barat nerfed really bad.. All other changes make dota really boring.. New heroes are not fun either.. Really boring to play with.

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Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 02, 2012, 23:06
True, bara is nerfed as hell. He needs mega farm to even be able to do something. I don't even consider him a carry now, but only a ganker. Since charge buff is removed, it's the only role he can fullfil.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: kingW3 on October 02, 2012, 23:08
Yea everyone complains when the new version comes out
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 02, 2012, 23:14
I'm not complaining (altough some changes are ridicolous), just saying.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Dread^Lord on October 02, 2012, 23:33
Like shpura^ says , yea some changes is so boring and not acceptable ( like bara or phoenix )
Yes there is new map but still many people complain  ???
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: LordDoom on October 02, 2012, 23:40
Like shpura^ says , yea some changes is so boring and not acceptable ( like bara or phoenix )
Yes there is new map but still many people complain  ???
WTF phoenix... so much headache from that hero, i break 2 keyboard couse of that hero.. i hate him
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: 21^Blok on October 03, 2012, 01:14
Even I do not like the changes in the Phoenix and Bara, and did not have to alter recipes for ww and other
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: 21^Blok on October 03, 2012, 01:25
but new heroes I like  8)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Djerfi on October 03, 2012, 05:06
It's always hard to embrace the changes. But you will see they are for the better, sooner or later..

You focus too much on the Bara's downside that you're not able to see his upside.
They've just changed him into a late game hero.
+21 damage on his first lvl (assuming taking 2x GoS and a branch or two) ? That was a bit too much.

- Greater Bash now deals damage based on your movement speed (10/20/30/40% of speed)

With Tranquil Boots, S&Y and Jango (roughly estimated at 20-30 min), your ms is 499 (+199 dmg while Bashing) . And 522 ms upon Jango's activation (+208 dmg). Add that +350 bonus from your ulty, not to mention your base damage being 100+ and your items.
You deal about 700 dmg with your ulty alone. And you are bound to bash him once more after it.
I would even consider MoM at this point.

Yes he's been ruined for early game, he will not torture as much as he did, but to say that he's one of the "worst carries" in the game is just plain stupid. No offense.

Almost every hero is changed. Some a bit, some completely. But they've mostly changed them to be better teammates, rather than being individually strong, don't you think?
Phoenix can't do anything on his own now. He's a team hero only.
Lycan can no longer go jungle, or can he? Either way, he's much weaker for that than he was before due to his Wolves being nerfed.
A lot of auras has been added too. Including Bara's, Pit Lord's...
That's all pushing you to go together and play a team game. That's what this game is all about.
And I like where these improvements are heading. I like every single change they've made!
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: yaphets_ on October 03, 2012, 07:02
It's always hard to embrace the changes. But you will see they are for the better, sooner or later..

You focus too much on the Bara's downside that you're not able to see his upside.
They've just changed him into a late game hero.
+21 damage on his first lvl (assuming taking 2x GoS and a branch or two) ? That was a bit too much.

- Greater Bash now deals damage based on your movement speed (10/20/30/40% of speed)

With Tranquil Boots, S&Y and Jango (roughly estimated at 20-30 min), your ms is 499 (+199 dmg while Bashing) . And 522 ms upon Jango's activation (+208 dmg). Add that +350 bonus from your ulty, not to mention your base damage being 100+ and your items.
You deal about 700 dmg with your ulty alone. And you are bound to bash him once more after it.
I would even consider MoM at this point.

Yes he's been ruined for early game, he will not torture as much as he did, but to say that he's one of the "worst carries" in the game is just plain stupid. No offense.

Almost every hero is changed. Some a bit, some completely. But they've mostly changed them to be better teammates, rather than being individually strong, don't you think?
Phoenix can't do anything on his own now. He's a team hero only.
Lycan can no longer go jungle, or can he? Either way, he's much weaker for that than he was before due to his Wolves being nerfed.
A lot of auras has been added too. Including Bara's, Pit Lord's...
That's all pushing you to go together and play a team game. That's what this game is all about.
And I like where these improvements are heading. I like every single change they've made!

100% but i don't like  these new heros as he said they are boring to play i think they are out of spells....these new heros spells are normal i don't see anything special.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 03, 2012, 08:17
Boring? Just imagine vacuum + million warden's 3rd spell, imagine wyvern's ult vs a fed carry or his first spell vs a trilane. Imo new heroes are awesome.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: brad_hawk on October 03, 2012, 10:36
6.75 funny with new heroes :)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Astaroth on October 03, 2012, 13:10
New heroes are boring?
Well I played Auroth (WW) only. Maybe not hard fun with him alone coz he can't do much, he has low base dmg and ms but in teamfight he is great.

Splinter Blast, 25% MS slow + 340 dmg to every1 around, only 8 seconds cd.
Winter's Curse "Oh your feeded carry can't do anything and is attacked by teammates, how sad, right? ;D" + works on magic immune heroes.
They wanna run? Splinter Blast with 1200 casting range and 500 aoe again.
Still wanna run? Arctic Burn, 1000 range, 40% slow. And I had Skadi, you won't escape  ;D
Oh, Stryg sees you now? Phe, Cold Embrace and bye bye  ;)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Jonh on October 03, 2012, 13:20
also all normal games are like apem games now with this new version.. Because u earn money faster than last versions..I check my money and it increases very fast like apem games.. Also now Assits giving u a lot of money..
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: DatFace on October 03, 2012, 13:22
That new wyvern, so imba support!
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 03, 2012, 13:26
The only down side is noobs freezing you when not needed. For example yesterday I played WR and used windrun to escape and he froze me -.- (ofc buffs are not frozen like in chronosphere)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Astaroth on October 03, 2012, 13:31
The only down side is noobs freezing you when not needed. For example yesterday I played WR and used windrun to escape and he froze me -.- (ofc buffs are not frozen like in chronosphere)
Agree. But luckily it grands you +9999 armor but no magic immunity ofc...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: BMW650i on October 03, 2012, 13:48
PHEONIX IS NOW SHIT HERO! TOTALLY RUINED!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: DatFace on October 03, 2012, 13:55
pffff, they just changed the dive to straight nothing else!

stop being rediculous!
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: kingW3 on October 03, 2012, 14:00
I'm not complaining (altough some changes are ridicolous), just saying.
I was referring to the OP
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Dread^Lord on October 03, 2012, 14:01
PHEONIX IS NOW SHIT HERO! TOTALLY RUINED!  >:( >:(

I agree  8)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: 21^Blok on October 03, 2012, 14:04
New heroes are not bad, but they are scared phoenix, phoenix better to return
to the old!  ;)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 03, 2012, 14:05
No way, he was too op
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: 21^Blok on October 03, 2012, 14:11
What no chance?? Before my phoenix was one of my favorite heroes, but now he was totally fucked up!
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: robson1927 on October 03, 2012, 14:33
New bara isn't that bad as all complain :)
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4546056/sd-pd-1750-6
(pt,armlet, s&y, hyper, domi, mkb). All u need is gang with him a lot;]
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Astaroth on October 03, 2012, 15:23
New bara isn't bad at all.

Every1 used to say Phoenix is too imbalanced, now every1 is saying he suck. If IceFrog will remove him from dota in next version every1 will compain again...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 03, 2012, 15:51
New bara isn't that bad as complain :)
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4546056/sd-pd-1750-6
(armlet, s&y, hyper, domi, mkb). All u need is gang with him a lot;]

phaseeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: YoungBlood on October 04, 2012, 01:53
I kinda dont like this new hero Arc Warden , because you can abuse his ulty as much as you want. For istance
If you have low hp and have maybe 3 heals and 3 claruty , you make ilisuion , and with ilusions heal your self up. and like that every 65/60/50 second or depens on which lvl you have it on. Or maybe he is too good for farming, If you make midas you can make ilusions cast midas with ilu, and then with your self, make ilu again after 65/60/50 sec and cast it again and soon you will have your own and you can make ilu again. I hope you can understand. Or maybe if you make dagon lvl 5. I think here will be soon fih or something for that..
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 04, 2012, 10:00
I agree, his ultimate is kinda broken. Just buy tinker items and gg,
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: tayyip on October 04, 2012, 10:52
I just played once with that hero and noticed he can be number one hero soon. I failed since i have difficulty to manage 2 heroes at same time and this is exactly two heroes.
He is open for fantasies  8)

Could you tell me his ulti? I didnt understand the relation with hp/mana

Can you get manta and then manta for illusion as well? (even use refresher for 13 Arc warden?)

8) (ulti)
8) :o (mantax2)
8) :) :) :o :) :) (refresherx2 + ulti for first one)
8) :o :) :) :o :) :) (mantax3)
8) :) :) :o :) :) :) :) :o :) :) :) :)

13 arc and 2 good illusion. Am I right?

I guess MoM is good for him when u have illusion and 2nd spell.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 04, 2012, 11:06
His ultimate requires percentage of his hp/mp to cast. Similar to phoenix.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: ColdWorld on October 04, 2012, 11:41
MoM is shit lol. I hope they will delete that item from dota map and dota 2 too.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: tayyip on October 04, 2012, 12:48
Like Huskar too? I got it

Maybe you don't like MoM but its a good item in this case so that that you can open MoM for two units with %100 evasion for 5x2 seconds?. Thats good imo. I will try and I will try Hand of Midas as well to check double income :)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 04, 2012, 12:53
BKB + 2nd skill = invulnerability
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: tayyip on October 04, 2012, 12:56
I kinda dont like this new hero Arc Warden , because you can abuse his ulty as much as you want. For istance
If you have low hp and have maybe 3 heals and 3 claruty , you make ilisuion , and with ilusions heal your self up. and like that every 65/60/50 second or depens on which lvl you have it on. Or maybe he is too good for farming, If you make midas you can make ilusions cast midas with ilu, and then with your self, make ilu again after 65/60/50 sec and cast it again and soon you will have your own and you can make ilu again. I hope you can understand. Or maybe if you make dagon lvl 5. I think here will be soon fih or something for that..
Hmmm I just got the idea about Hand of M. which has 100 sec cd but during this 100 second:
2xHoM
<50 sec>
1xHoM
<50 sec>
2xHoM

in 101 sec, 190x5 gold? Do you mean that? A new illusion with full CD? Im not sure about it but i will check.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Bart0zzo on October 04, 2012, 13:49
HOW IT CAN SUX xd


ganking era coming back gotta love it

u are guys just whining but u didnt notice how pushing heroes were mega nerfed etc

gank gank gank now

more interesting now.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: ColdWorld on October 04, 2012, 15:43
Take ulty on mirana on time, not on lvl 16 XD Save your team :D
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Canin on October 04, 2012, 18:22
I just played once with that hero and noticed he can be number one hero soon. I failed since i have difficulty to manage 2 heroes at same time and this is exactly two heroes.
He is open for fantasies  8)

Could you tell me his ulti? I didnt understand the relation with hp/mana

Can you get manta and then manta for illusion as well? (even use refresher for 13 Arc warden?)

8) (ulti)
8) :o (mantax2)
8) :) :) :o :) :) (refresherx2 + ulti for first one)
8) :o :) :) :o :) :) (mantax3)
8) :) :) :o :) :) :) :) :o :) :) :) :)

13 arc and 2 good illusion. Am I right?

I guess MoM is good for him when u have illusion and 2nd spell.
Uhm max illusions you can get is 9 1 main + 2 summoned arcs(ulti+ refresher) and 6 illusions for the moment I believe refresher is waste of money.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: thelostvoice on October 04, 2012, 19:36
I stopped reading once i read what OP wrote. Bara has been NERFED??? Are you stupid, or just retarded? He has been heavily buffed, more then you can imagine with your tiny brain. And other posts are probably garbage as well
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: 21^Blok on October 04, 2012, 23:44
Terror ruined, just have some pretty fucked up heroes!
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: [kosarkas] on October 05, 2012, 07:49
Over powered heroes were nerfed as they were supposed to be, deal with it! Ppl that play team games, at least from time to time, know that! Phoenix is one of the best support heroes now, if not the best! You got a imba heal now + you can disable their carries like np with that -150 AS (they got so low AS now that they are hitting themselves) or go to lane with that phoenix and try to last hit some creeps+ it has a small AOE so you can push or def without any problems... as for bara, bara nerfed at all, its just a little bit harder to last hit since you don't have +72 dmg only with PT! And I dont understand how you can say that the new heroes are boring to play? Either you tried that and sucked with them or you just dont understand what their spells do...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: tayyip on October 05, 2012, 09:50
Hmmm I just got the idea about Hand of M. which has 100 sec cd but during this 100 second:
2xHoM
<50 sec>
1xHoM
<50 sec>
2xHoM

in 101 sec, 190x5 gold? Do you mean that? A new illusion with full CD? Im not sure about it but i will check.
This works, 950 gold in 101 sec  ;) I think they will close it in next version.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: ColdWorld on October 05, 2012, 10:29
That new wyvern, so imba support!
he is poor shit for me, srsly...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: rexxar_bear on October 05, 2012, 12:19
That heal is imba, should be nerfed.

I was cent with 3k hp, and in ~30 secs he healed me from 25% hp to almost full (i didn't had hot)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: ColdWorld on October 05, 2012, 12:22
He is good for "team play" but in pubs you cant do anything. Its not hero for pub games at all.
Its hard to find good pub team, mission impossible and those mhers fucked my nervers. yesterday I played 4-5 games and in every game were minimal 3mhers. Epic.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: [kosarkas] on October 05, 2012, 13:21
He is good even for pubs... He is not a carry but has great influence on the game even when playing with nab mhers! i like the new heroes and their spells, although they will probably get nerfed in the next version, if not spell wise then mana wise...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: .mK.Ris. on October 05, 2012, 14:32
Phoenix is total shit for me
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: ColdWorld on October 05, 2012, 15:15
Didnt try on new map :S I hear about OP Phoenix ...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: shpura on October 05, 2012, 15:18
Didnt try on new map :S I hear about OP Phoenix ...

Yeah, some changes are just silly. Aghanim's Huskar has perma ult, 4 sec cd, slow 5 sec. But all in all it's a good update, you should try it.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: .mK.Ris. on October 05, 2012, 15:25
Didnt try on new map :S I hear about OP Phoenix ...
WE played yesterday when i was 0 10 with fenix -.-'  that didn't happend to me in 6.74 long time..
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: ColdWorld on October 05, 2012, 15:44
Didnt try on new map :S I hear about OP Phoenix ...
WE played yesterday when i was 0 10 with fenix -.-'  that didn't happend to me in 6.74 long time..
I were 2/8 with new hero XD
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Bart0zzo on October 05, 2012, 17:13
phoenix was retarted hero and he shouldnt be even in dota:D

good changes he is balanced finally.
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: [kosarkas] on October 05, 2012, 18:56
phoenix was retarted hero and he shouldnt be even in dota:D

good changes he is balanced finally.

With good combo Phoenix is still OP! You recieve 50% more dmg in dive form but you can move where ever you want and heal your allies, and imagine having abbadon to shield you and absorb that dmg, then you slow attack speed of the enemy by 150 and you ulti and have CD reseted on these spells to cast them again...


WE played yesterday when i was 0 10 with fenix -.-'  that didn't happend to me in 6.74 long time..

Ofc you will suck with him in pubs cause in earlier versions you could easy take any hero mid with phoenix, now you have to go lane in order to do sth good...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: courierpower on October 05, 2012, 21:06
2 too wrong changes i think:
1. Trax ultimate for 60 agility mega OP.
2. Lycan's wolves are f***ing nerfed he was fine, no nerf or buff was needed.

Increase in traxex's aura is reasonable imo because even venge for all units have better aura so it was looking kinda waste skill, but its fine now, also alchemist's greed is greatly improved i love it :D
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: [kosarkas] on October 05, 2012, 22:09
2 too wrong changes i think:
1. Trax ultimate for 60 agility mega OP.
2. Lycan's wolves are f***ing nerfed he was fine, no nerf or buff was needed.

Increase in traxex's aura is reasonable imo because even venge for all units have better aura so it was looking kinda waste skill, but its fine now, also alchemist's greed is greatly improved i love it :D

Trax I agree, althogh Ice Frog is trying to get trax into the game again, cause ppl are picking her less and less... but I don't agree with Lycan cause his wolves were OP, but on the other hand mby he should have nerfed them a little less!
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Bart0zzo on October 05, 2012, 23:17
lol guys trax is still weak in lanes etc

its buff but only at lvl16 its not scaling 15/30 and then 60 so....


prolly when u get lvl16 trax ur team should win :D
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: ColdWorld on October 06, 2012, 00:33
trax is crap hero XD
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: YoungBlood on October 06, 2012, 02:17
I kinda dont like this new hero Arc Warden , because you can abuse his ulty as much as you want. For istance
If you have low hp and have maybe 3 heals and 3 claruty , you make ilisuion , and with ilusions heal your self up. and like that every 65/60/50 second or depens on which lvl you have it on. Or maybe he is too good for farming, If you make midas you can make ilusions cast midas with ilu, and then with your self, make ilu again after 65/60/50 sec and cast it again and soon you will have your own and you can make ilu again. I hope you can understand. Or maybe if you make dagon lvl 5. I think here will be soon fih or something for that..
Hmmm I just got the idea about Hand of M. which has 100 sec cd but during this 100 second:
2xHoM
<50 sec>
1xHoM
<50 sec>
2xHoM

in 101 sec, 190x5 gold? Do you mean that? A new illusion with full CD? Im not sure about it but i will check.

Well kinda, If you make Midas and cast them lets say on lvl 7, CD on his ulty is then 65 sec, you cast your midas, and make ilu and cast with ilu midas, that is 190x2, after 65 sec that is +190 gold, and after 35 sec you cast your midas so that is +190 more. So in 120 sec you can make with midas 190 x 4 = 760 gold and + gold what you get from killing creeps with normal attack. So that is kinda alot :@ and ofc you buy about 3 heals and 3 clarity so you dont have ever go b to base :D
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: [kosarkas] on October 06, 2012, 11:42
When you use ulti with Arc Warden all your spells are ready including items...

Get divine rapier, make duplicate, die and have 2 divines ;)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Shadow on October 06, 2012, 11:54
Phoenix, what a retarded hero, finally got nerfed. Yea!
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: div.ide on October 06, 2012, 13:29
When you use ulti with Arc Warden all your spells are ready including items...

Get divine rapier, make duplicate, die and have 2 divines ;)
Woah, what?
No. IceFrog though about that, and you won't drop any item from tempest double.
... Although you can clone (and use) salves or couriers, abuse midas for MAJOR gpm boost, dual necro3/manta for epic backdooring, dagon for some WTF burst damage, hex for wannabe tinker permahexing etc...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: [kosarkas] on October 06, 2012, 14:03
When you use ulti with Arc Warden all your spells are ready including items...

Get divine rapier, make duplicate, die and have 2 divines ;)
Woah, what?
No. IceFrog though about that, and you won't drop any item from tempest double.
... Although you can clone (and use) salves or couriers, abuse midas for MAJOR gpm boost, dual necro3/manta for epic backdooring, dagon for some WTF burst damage, hex for wannabe tinker permahexing etc...

Yup I know, but mby some1 will try it in my game and I'll get his divine :P I like dual Necro  the most...
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: GREED on October 07, 2012, 11:55
When you use ulti with Arc Warden all your spells are ready including items...

Get divine rapier, make duplicate, die and have 2 divines ;)
Woah, what?
No. IceFrog though about that, and you won't drop any item from tempest double.
... Although you can clone (and use) salves or couriers, abuse midas for MAJOR gpm boost, dual necro3/manta for epic backdooring, dagon for some WTF burst damage, hex for wannabe tinker permahexing etc...

y to bad you cant sell/drop items from doubler. it wouldbe more epic. anyways. this hero isnt "dota". its a smtng between LOL and a bug. its made for abusing gold and items and I dont like it. old eredars model + 4  random spells. like icefrog spent 2min on a coffie break to make this
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Denche on November 07, 2012, 17:04
PHEONIX IS NOW SHIT HERO! TOTALLY RUINED!  >:( >:(

Dude u say Pheo is shit now ? Lol , in last version pheonix was imbalanced .. any better player who know to play pheo will kill you every time with laser .. there is not cooldown and he can walk when using laser.. Dive is good spell now he can heal hes alies .. escape , catch someone .. hes not ruined hes just balanced :)
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: glodar on November 07, 2012, 17:07
PHEONIX IS NOW SHIT HERO! TOTALLY RUINED!  >:( >:(

Dude u say Pheo is shit now ? Lol , in last version pheonix was imbalanced .. any better player who know to play pheo will kill you every time with laser .. there is not cooldown and he can walk when using laser.. Dive is good spell now he can heal hes alies .. escape , catch someone .. hes not ruined hes just balanced :)
hes ruined
idc was he unbalanced...check my sign now i cant do that  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: Denche on November 07, 2012, 17:10
Over powered heroes were nerfed as they were supposed to be, deal with it! Ppl that play team games, at least from time to time, know that! Phoenix is one of the best support heroes now, if not the best! You got a imba heal now + you can disable their carries like np with that -150 AS (they got so low AS now that they are hitting themselves) or go to lane with that phoenix and try to last hit some creeps+ it has a small AOE so you can push or def without any problems... as for bara, bara nerfed at all, its just a little bit harder to last hit since you don't have +72 dmg only with PT! And I dont understand how you can say that the new heroes are boring to play? Either you tried that and sucked with them or you just dont understand what their spells do...

+1
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: 1QuestioN! on November 07, 2012, 21:10
+1 for glodar , phoenix is shit now.....
Title: Re: 6.75 sucks
Post by: GREED on November 08, 2012, 00:00
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