Barat nerfed really bad.. All other changes make dota really boring.. New heroes are not fun either.. Really boring to play with.
Like shpura^ says , yea some changes is so boring and not acceptable ( like bara or phoenix )WTF phoenix... so much headache from that hero, i break 2 keyboard couse of that hero.. i hate him
Yes there is new map but still many people complain ???
It's always hard to embrace the changes. But you will see they are for the better, sooner or later..
You focus too much on the Bara's downside that you're not able to see his upside.
They've just changed him into a late game hero.
+21 damage on his first lvl (assuming taking 2x GoS and a branch or two) ? That was a bit too much.
- Greater Bash now deals damage based on your movement speed (10/20/30/40% of speed)
With Tranquil Boots, S&Y and Jango (roughly estimated at 20-30 min), your ms is 499 (+199 dmg while Bashing) . And 522 ms upon Jango's activation (+208 dmg). Add that +350 bonus from your ulty, not to mention your base damage being 100+ and your items.
You deal about 700 dmg with your ulty alone. And you are bound to bash him once more after it.
I would even consider MoM at this point.
Yes he's been ruined for early game, he will not torture as much as he did, but to say that he's one of the "worst carries" in the game is just plain stupid. No offense.
Almost every hero is changed. Some a bit, some completely. But they've mostly changed them to be better teammates, rather than being individually strong, don't you think?
Phoenix can't do anything on his own now. He's a team hero only.
Lycan can no longer go jungle, or can he? Either way, he's much weaker for that than he was before due to his Wolves being nerfed.
A lot of auras has been added too. Including Bara's, Pit Lord's...
That's all pushing you to go together and play a team game. That's what this game is all about.
And I like where these improvements are heading. I like every single change they've made!
The only down side is noobs freezing you when not needed. For example yesterday I played WR and used windrun to escape and he froze me -.- (ofc buffs are not frozen like in chronosphere)Agree. But luckily it grands you +9999 armor but no magic immunity ofc...
I'm not complaining (altough some changes are ridicolous), just saying.I was referring to the OP
PHEONIX IS NOW SHIT HERO! TOTALLY RUINED! >:( >:(
New bara isn't that bad as complain :)
http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/4546056/sd-pd-1750-6
(armlet, s&y, hyper, domi, mkb). All u need is gang with him a lot;]
I kinda dont like this new hero Arc Warden , because you can abuse his ulty as much as you want. For istanceHmmm I just got the idea about Hand of M. which has 100 sec cd but during this 100 second:
If you have low hp and have maybe 3 heals and 3 claruty , you make ilisuion , and with ilusions heal your self up. and like that every 65/60/50 second or depens on which lvl you have it on. Or maybe he is too good for farming, If you make midas you can make ilusions cast midas with ilu, and then with your self, make ilu again after 65/60/50 sec and cast it again and soon you will have your own and you can make ilu again. I hope you can understand. Or maybe if you make dagon lvl 5. I think here will be soon fih or something for that..
I just played once with that hero and noticed he can be number one hero soon. I failed since i have difficulty to manage 2 heroes at same time and this is exactly two heroes.Uhm max illusions you can get is 9 1 main + 2 summoned arcs(ulti+ refresher) and 6 illusions for the moment I believe refresher is waste of money.
He is open for fantasies 8)
Could you tell me his ulti? I didnt understand the relation with hp/mana
Can you get manta and then manta for illusion as well? (even use refresher for 13 Arc warden?)
8) (ulti)
8) :o (mantax2)
8) :) :) :o :) :) (refresherx2 + ulti for first one)
8) :o :) :) :o :) :) (mantax3)
8) :) :) :o :) :) :) :) :o :) :) :) :)
13 arc and 2 good illusion. Am I right?
I guess MoM is good for him when u have illusion and 2nd spell.
Hmmm I just got the idea about Hand of M. which has 100 sec cd but during this 100 second:This works, 950 gold in 101 sec ;) I think they will close it in next version.
2xHoM
<50 sec>
1xHoM
<50 sec>
2xHoM
in 101 sec, 190x5 gold? Do you mean that? A new illusion with full CD? Im not sure about it but i will check.
That new wyvern, so imba support!he is poor shit for me, srsly...
Didnt try on new map :S I hear about OP Phoenix ...
Didnt try on new map :S I hear about OP Phoenix ...WE played yesterday when i was 0 10 with fenix -.-' that didn't happend to me in 6.74 long time..
I were 2/8 with new hero XDDidnt try on new map :S I hear about OP Phoenix ...WE played yesterday when i was 0 10 with fenix -.-' that didn't happend to me in 6.74 long time..
phoenix was retarted hero and he shouldnt be even in dota:D
good changes he is balanced finally.
WE played yesterday when i was 0 10 with fenix -.-' that didn't happend to me in 6.74 long time..
2 too wrong changes i think:
1. Trax ultimate for 60 agility mega OP.
2. Lycan's wolves are f***ing nerfed he was fine, no nerf or buff was needed.
Increase in traxex's aura is reasonable imo because even venge for all units have better aura so it was looking kinda waste skill, but its fine now, also alchemist's greed is greatly improved i love it :D
I kinda dont like this new hero Arc Warden , because you can abuse his ulty as much as you want. For istanceHmmm I just got the idea about Hand of M. which has 100 sec cd but during this 100 second:
If you have low hp and have maybe 3 heals and 3 claruty , you make ilisuion , and with ilusions heal your self up. and like that every 65/60/50 second or depens on which lvl you have it on. Or maybe he is too good for farming, If you make midas you can make ilusions cast midas with ilu, and then with your self, make ilu again after 65/60/50 sec and cast it again and soon you will have your own and you can make ilu again. I hope you can understand. Or maybe if you make dagon lvl 5. I think here will be soon fih or something for that..
2xHoM
<50 sec>
1xHoM
<50 sec>
2xHoM
in 101 sec, 190x5 gold? Do you mean that? A new illusion with full CD? Im not sure about it but i will check.
When you use ulti with Arc Warden all your spells are ready including items...Woah, what?Get divine rapier, make duplicate, die and have 2 divines ;)
When you use ulti with Arc Warden all your spells are ready including items...Woah, what?Get divine rapier, make duplicate, die and have 2 divines ;)
No. IceFrog though about that, and you won't drop any item from tempest double.
... Although you can clone (and use) salves or couriers, abuse midas for MAJOR gpm boost, dual necro3/manta for epic backdooring, dagon for some WTF burst damage, hex for wannabe tinker permahexing etc...
When you use ulti with Arc Warden all your spells are ready including items...Woah, what?Get divine rapier, make duplicate, die and have 2 divines ;)
No. IceFrog though about that, and you won't drop any item from tempest double.
... Although you can clone (and use) salves or couriers, abuse midas for MAJOR gpm boost, dual necro3/manta for epic backdooring, dagon for some WTF burst damage, hex for wannabe tinker permahexing etc...
PHEONIX IS NOW SHIT HERO! TOTALLY RUINED! >:( >:(
hes ruinedPHEONIX IS NOW SHIT HERO! TOTALLY RUINED! >:( >:(
Dude u say Pheo is shit now ? Lol , in last version pheonix was imbalanced .. any better player who know to play pheo will kill you every time with laser .. there is not cooldown and he can walk when using laser.. Dive is good spell now he can heal hes alies .. escape , catch someone .. hes not ruined hes just balanced :)
Over powered heroes were nerfed as they were supposed to be, deal with it! Ppl that play team games, at least from time to time, know that! Phoenix is one of the best support heroes now, if not the best! You got a imba heal now + you can disable their carries like np with that -150 AS (they got so low AS now that they are hitting themselves) or go to lane with that phoenix and try to last hit some creeps+ it has a small AOE so you can push or def without any problems... as for bara, bara nerfed at all, its just a little bit harder to last hit since you don't have +72 dmg only with PT! And I dont understand how you can say that the new heroes are boring to play? Either you tried that and sucked with them or you just dont understand what their spells do...