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Strategy Discussion Section => DotA Discussion => Topic started by: IceFrog on November 23, 2010, 13:52
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Yesterday i played a pubic game,i was in team with some guy(didn't remember account)he was The Invoker. 1)He's item build was so good.Since Invoker was excelent farming hero he made this in 30min:Sacrifice ring, Boot of travel,Wind walk(lothar's edge),Satanic,Buriza,Monkey king bar,Hex. 2) He lvlup exort and easy farm on creeps.WW spell wasnt so effective it was bettes some other spell. 3)On start he learned ghost walk to escape and meteor to farm.Guy had ultra kill on very hard heroes. What do you think abot this?
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give link to game .
u got it in ur stats if u played this game on playdota .
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Obviosly noob such a waste of gold to make radiance and bot on invoker not even mentioning that he had gw in early game while playing exo unless he was using forge spirgts
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since he got those items in 30 min,probably he played vs noobs...
Personally i hate carry invo...he got tons of spells to spam them.
And lothars for invo?r u kidding me...he got a ww already and besides that he got 3-4 escape spells.no need for the 5th.
Give link of the game pls.
@vaikiss
radiance is good if u can farm it in 15 min.radi+cold snap rules.
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since he got those items in 30 min,probably he played vs noobs...
Personally i hate carry invo...he got tons of spells to spam them.
And lothars for invo?r u kidding me...he got a ww already and besides that he got 3-4 escape spells.no need for the 5th.
Give link of the game pls.
@vaikiss
radiance is good if u can farm it in 15 min.radi+cold snap rules.
team+cold snap rulz even more and if u have 600hp and radi it gives no use since u die in 2 nukes
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ye.but in games where u can farm radi in 15 min the enemies are probably noobs and they wont gank u so 600 hp is enough.
But i aggre that radi sux as first item.and i say again,i hate carry invo.
Ppl who make him carry r noobs who cant spam spells...
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Aghanim and max wex ex is enuf 2 pwn
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There's so many combinations to pwn with Invoker.I just started the topic to see other players tactics.*By the way where can i see that replay? *
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http://stats.playdota.eu/?u=IceFrog&s=datetime&o=desc&p=user&n=0 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?u=IceFrog&s=datetime&o=desc&p=user&n=0)
and link to talked game is there :
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=945390 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=945390)
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Later i might add some repays of mine with dif3rent strats of invoker
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as i said...pro joined noob game and pwned them.when he played pro game with invo he had 5:7...
So nothing special about this guy :)
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I was trax.He was pwning till i had to swich.Invoker vs silence sounds awful.Could beat him easily now. I just want to talk about good invoker items.It's great in this game,isn't it? P.S*Lothar is better than ghost walk.It would be better to replace the spell which disable attack,it's more usefull*
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I was trax.He was pwning till i had to swich.Invoker vs silence sounds awful.Could beat him easily now. I just want to talk about good invoker items.It's great in this game,isn't it? P.S*Lothar is better than ghost walk.It would be better to replace the spell which disable attack,it's more usefull*
http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-omnimage (http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-omnimage) pretymuch perfect guide altho in pub games all items suits fine for him
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I was trax.He was pwning till i had to swich.Invoker vs silence sounds awful.Could beat him easily now. I just want to talk about good invoker items.It's great in this game,isn't it? P.S*Lothar is better than ghost walk.It would be better to replace the spell which disable attack,it's more usefull*
get scepter and u dont have replace it...cd is 2 sec i think.
@vaikiss that guide is not rly for a beginner invo player...or he has to read all there...twice :))
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http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=959695 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=959695)
i was playing semi support invoker in priv game but since lina failed mid i went farming for hex was kinda fun no matter that we got pwned
was playing quas and exo build aka forge spirits + cold snap + sun strike (wasnt using that much :( )
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q + e is a good combination imo(early game,later u use all ofc)
havent played priv games with invo.in cm games we always choose the usuall heroes.
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well that was rd thats why i took it as last pick
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yesterday i played against invoker who did over 1k crits...he had 1600hp and the game was lasted 1h+. i was ogre mage and killed him easily in fights...hex him, shivas guard for freeze, 4x multicast n ignite. he then had like 100-200hp left?
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=957889 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=957889)
this game is pretty epic from random pub players...enemy could've finish it in mid game but they failed n our spectre could farm imba items. at 1:16 all were dead except spectre n azwraith. azwraith used manta and attacked spectre, but spectre killed him with about 100hp left and finished the game.
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Invo carry sux, suxed and will sux. It makes me feel like vomit everytime i see invoker with lothars using only alacrity/meteor. Hero with such a great spells like Defeaning blast, Tornado, cold snap etc. etc. isn't supposed to make items for 1K crit.
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good invoker = http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/40006 (http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/40006)
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good invoker = http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/40006 (http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/40006)
100 min games ftw
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Invo carry sux, suxed and will sux. It makes me feel like vomit everytime i see invoker with lothars using only alacrity/meteor. Hero with such a great spells like Defeaning blast, Tornado, cold snap etc. etc. isn't supposed to make items for 1K crit.
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give alacrity to some1 who is already a carry...mort would make 2k crit or more.not to talk about kunkka and the rest.
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good invoker = http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/40006 (http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/40006)
100 min games ftw
sniper with 900+ cs and 3divine rapiers and they lost, lmao..must be imba game.
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idd :D
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I played similiar game with ezalor.Easy farm but must be to carefull and ezalor can't fail.Done about 800 critical in 35min game(didn't finish 2 it ems).So ezalor with more care can be imba.Items:power threads on str(gives +200hp and atack speed),lothar(to hunt down hero or fast backoff),dominator(life steal,20 damage),buriza,manta,hex.* What do you think about this?! *
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I played similiar game with ezalor.Easy farm but must be to carefull and ezalor can't fail.Done about 800 critical in 35min game(didn't finish 2 it ems).So ezalor with more care can be imba.Items:power threads on str(gives +200hp and atack speed),lothar(to hunt down hero or fast backoff),dominator(life steal,20 damage),buriza,manta,hex.* What do you think about this?! *
i think u should get back to ai maps
http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=946807 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=946807)
first item was meka later on boots then shitloads of wards if i remember correctly then i finished my bot
P.S i was supporting mortred
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I wasn't support rofl.I just post some potencial skill of ezalor.There's no rule about heroes.Don't think int heroes are just for assist.
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I wasn't support rofl.I just post some potencial skill of ezalor.There's no rule about heroes.Don't think int heroes are just for assist.
jes din assinst weri noob me iz get 20 keel and i iz weri pro
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I wasn't support rofl.I just post some potencial skill of ezalor.There's no rule about heroes.Don't think int heroes are just for assist.
ezalor w/ 1k crits hp 1000 :'DDDDDDDD
try to kill void, azwraith, mort, nevermore, any str/agi late gamer who crits 1k....u will get RAPED IN THE ASS, MOUTH N DICK AT THE SAME TIME. pub nab.
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i hope u r trolling hard
+ ezalor is nowhere near good or even normal dps/carry hero...no chasing skills (blink, slow, stun etc..), low str/agi gain (no hp or armor), useless skills as f**k if thinking about carry(dps) hero, no escape skills. (windwalk, stun, slow, blink etc..)
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ezalor is pure support if any1 trying to make him carry or smth like that he should get brain surgery
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Cheat you obviously are not tacticly player.I didn' say anything about skill,just you need to think different otherwise you can't improve gameplay...
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Cheat you obviously are not tacticly player.I didn' say anything about skill,just you need to think different otherwise you can't improve gameplay...
tactical player?
lets see my tactic. i mass mana morphling on my lane (lets say 2v2 lane). then i illuminate the shit out of enemy n try to deny. morphling gets 300cs 40-50min and he has items for example: diffusal blade, manta, buriza, hot, bfly, bot.
now lets see if i had those items with ezalor n morphling had bot + 2 bracers.....think about tactics you noobie.
with those items morpling can kill many heroes in team fights n finish the game, but if ezalor with those items leaving morphling itemless i bet you will lose. ofc im not talking about random public games.
good tactic for u (vaikiss u can try this):
take nevermore
farm hex, shivas guard, khagdar pipe, ac, vladimirs offering and support ur team to victory!
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i prefer old school build with fiend botle pt dagger manta bkb
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nah just make carry a support n support a carry...works best in this game...
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actualy all those items ain't bad for fiend since he mostly does all the shit with ulti and razes unless its late game and with hex u could farm nonstop while razing everyone around
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well try to actually get those games in a game.
*Edit*
actually any hero with hex, shivas, vlads, ac etc....is effective.
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Yesterday i played a pubic game
I had to quote this sry... hahahahahahh
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well try to actually get those games in a game.
*Edit*
actually any hero with hex, shivas, vlads, ac etc....is effective.
i might do that but in pub only :D
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Kosarkas what's the point to quote just part? * Stvarno ne vidim sta je smesno -_- *
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well it looks funny :D
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Kosarkas what's the point to quote just part? * Stvarno ne vidim sta je smesno -_- *
Go look up the word PUBIC!!!HAHAHA ----> PUBIC HAIR
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well it looks funny :D
Hehe it's really funnx. I didn't notice mistake."pubic game" epic fail xD
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here a replay
invoker rampage i think
gg replay
http://rapidshare.com/files/433128425/Replay_2010_11_25_2019.w3g (http://rapidshare.com/files/433128425/Replay_2010_11_25_2019.w3g)
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go on youtube, search dota rampage and you will see any hero get 5 kills. ppl play apemso tr noob games and uploads the video to all over the internet.
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Learn to play piano & u will be a fantastic invoker
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so easy
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http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=945390 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=945390)
lol he won u the game and u managed to lose it for him .... gj team u sux i bet he cursed u down a lot
when i have this kind of games i automatically ask that whole my team gets banned :) even if they ofc dont :P but i feel good
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lol 22 kills and feeders ruined it all :D
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Yea...he cursed day when i switched :D
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http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=945390 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=945390)
lol he won u the game and u managed to lose it for him...
i don't understund you. Can you write better syntaxes?
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http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=945390 (http://stats.playdota.eu/?p=gameinfo&gid=945390)
lol he won u the game and u managed to lose it for him...
i don't understund you. Can you write better syntaxes?
bcoz of u he lost a won game.
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Thanks for the reply,but win/loose isn't important as a nice long game. So i don't care about win. I mean...i always want to win but never nerv about that.
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Thanks for the reply,but win/loose isn't important as a nice long game. So i don't care about win. I mean...i always want to win but never nerv about that.
I always want to have fun when playing... ;D Fuck a boring game that u are sure to win... :-/
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He can get Ultra kill with meteor, Tornado (best build for late game) it do insane DMG + he have good dmg. He used Wex and 2 exort. With that build, + this spells, improved ulti u can get rampage on str heroes if u want. You have to be skilled with invoker 2 x) so be skilled and farm a lot
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You can pick pudge at meganoobs game to get a godlike at 10 mins ....