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Title: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: luke on September 05, 2020, 23:51
Maybe sell boots to buy bkb?

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6321981
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: grga_man on September 06, 2020, 14:07
Depends how you want to end game,
You can take hex insted of (not sell)battle fury and divine instead of bot, this type helps you to kill 1 hero tp back take bf and push lanes.
But simply just divine instead of bot.
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: luke on September 06, 2020, 15:34
Probably had to change hot for satanic. But problem was all heroes really hard to kill. And weaver had mana burn talent what to do against it idk. Generally all game had no mana.

Creeps were pushing a lot so battlefury was needed. We played 20 minutes against mega creeps
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: Nexxus on September 07, 2020, 05:20
id probably go for silencer and amplifier instead of hot and battlefury here and mkb instead of boots or divine cuz looking at the stats seems like weaver was raping ur team and razor, u break linken with stun and go amplifier silencer on one of these and kill them ez
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: KeMCek on September 07, 2020, 11:45
alt f4
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: AntlermanXXL on September 07, 2020, 11:54
4x Bloodstone > 3x Bloodstone
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: luke on September 07, 2020, 16:28
id probably go for silencer and amplifier instead of hot and battlefury here and mkb instead of boots or divine cuz looking at the stats seems like weaver was raping ur team and razor, u break linken with stun and go amplifier silencer on one of these and kill them ez

Good idea but problem was weaver was stalking me all game, hard to catch someone who is alone. And i was dying really fast.

And generally hard to catch weaver because he would go invis after linken triggers
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: Nexxus on September 08, 2020, 01:20
id probably go for silencer and amplifier instead of hot and battlefury here and mkb instead of boots or divine cuz looking at the stats seems like weaver was raping ur team and razor, u break linken with stun and go amplifier silencer on one of these and kill them ez

Good idea but problem was weaver was stalking me all game, hard to catch someone who is alone. And i was dying really fast.

And generally hard to catch weaver because he would go invis after linken triggers

thats why i said nullfieir or amplifier however its called and silence, u break linken with bash and use these both on him, he cant manta or ww or ulti and u kill him ez
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: KeMCek on September 08, 2020, 11:54
4x Bloodstone > 3x Bloodstone

But there is always a better way!
5x Bloodstone!!!
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: mordor911 on September 28, 2020, 23:35
Sell Butterfly and get Gem and 2x Hyperstone. Optionally Satanic instead of HOT or Shiva.
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: 4K on September 29, 2020, 18:51
I see Razor with butter fly :D

MKB would help, also usra did big mistake with "Sange and Yasha" useless for Usra

[p]okemon with  "Sange and Yasha", so 2 in team made same item :)
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: mordor911 on October 03, 2020, 04:58
I see Necro aka Pastila = 8/26. Nothing else to say. Shaker with Lothar, S&Y and Mjolnir, wait what? Mjolnir on EarthShaker  ???
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: ilikedat on February 15, 2021, 10:24
Maybe sell boots to buy bkb?

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6321981
bkb would have been a waste againts 4 right clickers,satanic over hot and split pushes cuz u have mobility.
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: Jimmy on February 16, 2021, 03:26
Sell Butterfly and get Gem and 2x Hyperstone. Optionally Satanic instead of HOT or Shiva.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/LmC8SEJ8IuRZwhP2uq/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: nikolagay on February 16, 2021, 09:21
Call me crazy, but I'd legit try to switch for a siege rush build in this case, to try and take advantage over the fact that its a 5v4 game. Something like losing BF and Abyssal blade and getting Desolator AC. (Needless to say, this whole BS might work, but only until the ~50th minute mark.)

Really not and ideal thing to do, way too far stretched especially because you would lose almost all your worth in team fights, but you kind of need a TEAM in order to win team fights. I'm guessing Ursa could not possibly tank with those items so either you were forced to engage first each fight, or someone would always get caught off guard, forcing you guys to fight or immediately being a -1. And ofc, there's the Pepega Shaker in all of this...


So yea, I'd try going for siege damage and try to end this suffering of a game before Spectre out-scales me. Ultimately, I could agree with @grga_man on his thought.
Title: Re: What items to make in this situation?
Post by: Jimmy on February 16, 2021, 14:21
Call me crazy, but I'd legit try to switch for a siege rush build in this case, to try and take advantage over the fact that its a 5v4 game. Something like losing BF and Abyssal blade and getting Desolator AC. (Needless to say, this whole BS might work, but only until the ~50th minute mark.)

Really not and ideal thing to do, way too far stretched especially because you would lose almost all your worth in team fights, but you kind of need a TEAM in order to win team fights. I'm guessing Ursa could not possibly tank with those items so either you were forced to engage first each fight, or someone would always get caught off guard, forcing you guys to fight or immediately being a -1. And ofc, there's the Pepega Shaker in all of this...


So yea, I'd try going for siege damage and try to end this suffering of a game before Spectre out-scales me. Ultimately, I could agree with @grga_man on his thought.
Close enough , Assault Cuirass instead of Abysall Blade , and Bloodthorn instead of HoT.
Instruct supports to sell (?) Talismans and Make Euls to break those nasty Linken's.
Ursa had Vlad's , that takes care of LS. 
It was a winnable situation with more communication.
But the best answer to this Topic is : Get communication , communication is key.

Ex:

53:44   Andi1989   [Allies]   get statanic
53:47   Andi1989   [Allies]   satanic
53:47   FatAndViolent   [Allies]   seell and buy hex
53:59   hunterxxx   [Allies]   take
56:12   FatAndViolent   [Allies]   sell setrnies
56:34   FatAndViolent   [Allies]   sell sentries 2k gold
58:26   FatAndViolent   [Allies]   he has linken
58:30   FatAndViolent   [Allies]   blind?
58:32   FatAndViolent   [Allies]   how stun
59:39   Andi1989   [Allies]   shit items weaver
59:44   Andi1989   [Allies]   low armor
75:30   nukecoke   [Allies]   get hx
75:34   nukecoke   [Allies]   get hex
75:46   nukecoke   [Allies]   necro get hex

Meanwhile Necro :
(http://cdn.lowgif.com/full/94465f00a5c2dad1-image-retard-at-a-keyboard-gif-good-hockey-wiki-fandom-powered.gif)



Bonus Round :

74:17   nukecoke   [Allies]   cover me

Team:
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SmoggyHilariousBaiji-size_restricted.gif)