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Title: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: t222 on September 24, 2016, 17:53
Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: CoMMoN1337 on September 24, 2016, 19:12
Hey man, I have a strategy for you:

Uninstall the game.
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: jeandarc on September 24, 2016, 20:55
^ if that doesn't work

Try this:

Kill yourself
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: Astaroth on September 25, 2016, 18:01
Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?
Don't let him farm his Radiance easily. He isn't strong early and Radi is expensive, that is your time to strike.

I once played Viper vs Alche mid, maxed the passive. Poor Alche was basically harassing himself with his spray and got nothing early.

Later you have to do something with his ulty. Pick a hero with bash, get disarm.

Or pick Alche as well.
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: goblin on September 26, 2016, 10:46
First quality thread on forum after a while,you just dont get threads like this anymore  :D



Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: Jedivh on September 26, 2016, 19:05
Hey man, I have a strategy for you:

Uninstall the game.
Hahaha +1
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on October 01, 2016, 18:00
So u two play 1v1 without picking the same heroes or without picking mid heroes.
k.
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: Lagi on October 01, 2016, 18:33
Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?
You just have to rape him before he can get anything. It's easy in earlygame. Pick huskar, permaharrash and zone him out. go agressive. If you do it right, and zone him out, you will get lvl6 before him, and there you have the window to strike. But honestly with a huskar you can kill him easily even before lvl6.

If this doesn't work, try commy's and jeandarc's advices :D
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on October 01, 2016, 19:36
Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?
You just have to rape him before he can get anything. It's easy in earlygame. Pick huskar, permaharrash and zone him out. go agressive. If you do it right, and zone him out, you will get lvl6 before him, and there you have the window to strike. But honestly with a huskar you can kill him easily even before lvl6.

If this doesn't work, try commy's and jeandarc's advices :D

lol? do u know how alch even works? u cant fucking stop him.
he just fucking buys SR, goes acid spray and goblins greed and then he gets to lv6 with 3k gold in his bag.
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: Blast on October 01, 2016, 20:23
Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?
You just have to rape him before he can get anything. It's easy in earlygame. Pick huskar, permaharrash and zone him out. go agressive. If you do it right, and zone him out, you will get lvl6 before him, and there you have the window to strike. But honestly with a huskar you can kill him easily even before lvl6.

If this doesn't work, try commy's and jeandarc's advices :D

lol? do u know how alch even works? u cant fucking stop him.
he just fucking buys SR, goes acid spray and goblins greed and then he gets to lv6 with 3k gold in his bag.
Lol really, you have nothing to counter alche with sr and acid spray? I played OD against alche in 6.88(D2)went full W as new meta and let him unfarmed.There are too much ways to counter him but I don't understand what kind of 1v1 these guys are playing cuz the real 1v1 is 2kills or 1 tower.
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on October 02, 2016, 00:53
Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?
You just have to rape him before he can get anything. It's easy in earlygame. Pick huskar, permaharrash and zone him out. go agressive. If you do it right, and zone him out, you will get lvl6 before him, and there you have the window to strike. But honestly with a huskar you can kill him easily even before lvl6.

If this doesn't work, try commy's and jeandarc's advices :D

lol? do u know how alch even works? u cant fucking stop him.
he just fucking buys SR, goes acid spray and goblins greed and then he gets to lv6 with 3k gold in his bag.
Lol really, you have nothing to counter alche with sr and acid spray? I played OD against alche in 6.88(D2)went full W as new meta and let him unfarmed.There are too much ways to counter him but I don't understand what kind of 1v1 these guys are playing cuz the real 1v1 is 2kills or 1 tower.

He will still farm, unless he sucks. All you have to do is buy RAW MANA, maybe INT items, and this will be bought when he sees you pick OD. IIRC +INT cannot be stolen, but OD will still get his buff right ?
OD hits
Alchemist has no other INT except the +3 int from the mantle of intelligence
OD gets his INT from the hit on alchemist
Alchemist doesnt lose any INT because he doesnt have any base int.
I think slark works similarly
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: Lagi on October 03, 2016, 02:38
Hi,

With my friends play Dota 1vs1 he chooses a hero Alchemist and as the first item build "Radiance"
So far I have failed to beat him, you can advise me a hero and strategies to defeat the Alchemist in 1vs1?
You just have to rape him before he can get anything. It's easy in earlygame. Pick huskar, permaharrash and zone him out. go agressive. If you do it right, and zone him out, you will get lvl6 before him, and there you have the window to strike. But honestly with a huskar you can kill him easily even before lvl6.

If this doesn't work, try commy's and jeandarc's advices :D

lol? do u know how alch even works? u cant fucking stop him.
he just fucking buys SR, goes acid spray and goblins greed and then he gets to lv6 with 3k gold in his bag.
:D yy sure.
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: jeandarc on October 03, 2016, 08:05
RAW MANA
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on October 03, 2016, 12:23
RAW MANA

Yeah, ever hears of that u fucking 4k pinoy monkey?
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: jeandarc on October 03, 2016, 18:39
RAW MANA

Yeah, ever hears of that u fucking 4k pinoy monkey?

RAW 4K
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: North_Legionare on October 03, 2016, 20:33
Lagabuse and it's cancer posts. I've missed this so much.

Please never change Lagabuse. KEK

By the way, Alchemist with Radiance as a first item for 1v1, what the f*ck. Take VS, buy treads and 5 bracers and just go melee yelling "This is SPARTAAAAAA". Even that would work like a charm here...
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: jeandarc on October 03, 2016, 20:47
5 RAW BRACERS
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: Astaroth on October 03, 2016, 21:06
By the way, Alchemist with Radiance as a first item for 1v1, what the f*ck. Take VS, buy treads and 5 bracers and just go melee yelling "This is SPARTAAAAAA". Even that would work like a charm here...
What if they play 1v1 with full gold (over 4k?)? Then Alche can basically buy Radi straight away...
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on October 03, 2016, 21:10
By the way, Alchemist with Radiance as a first item for 1v1, what the f*ck. Take VS, buy treads and 5 bracers and just go melee yelling "This is SPARTAAAAAA". Even that would work like a charm here...
What if they play 1v1 with full gold (over 4k?)? Then Alche can basically buy Radi straight away...

Then again, 1v1 with full gold is a reason to suck cos it eliminates the early game
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: North_Legionare on October 03, 2016, 21:17
By the way, Alchemist with Radiance as a first item for 1v1, what the f*ck. Take VS, buy treads and 5 bracers and just go melee yelling "This is SPARTAAAAAA". Even that would work like a charm here...
What if they play 1v1 with full gold (over 4k?)? Then Alche can basically buy Radi straight away...

Then again, 1v1 with full gold is a reason to suck cos it eliminates the early game

Have you ever tried playing against VS with treads and 5 bracers against 1v1? I used to do that to people for fun.

Anyway, since you guys are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously, let's begin. Three strategies with 4k gold:
- Huskar with armlet as 1st item against alche with radi = GG
- Basically any annoying fuckface with armlet against alche with radi = GG
- Invoker with etheral against alche with radi = GG
- Witch Doctor with dagon against alche with radi = GG

These are by far the dumbest strategies I could think of. Also, if anyone is retarded enough to play with 4k at start, take ursa, buy vlads and three poor man's shields and go kill roshan. Lagabuse pubberz usually don't expect this.

The fact that I "had" to write this down makes me want to kill myself...
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: jeandarc on October 03, 2016, 22:52
RAW MASTER RACE
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: North_Legionare on October 03, 2016, 22:57
RAW MASTER RACE

Dafuq jean, still not legend rank on HS?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on October 03, 2016, 23:15
By the way, Alchemist with Radiance as a first item for 1v1, what the f*ck. Take VS, buy treads and 5 bracers and just go melee yelling "This is SPARTAAAAAA". Even that would work like a charm here...
What if they play 1v1 with full gold (over 4k?)? Then Alche can basically buy Radi straight away...

Then again, 1v1 with full gold is a reason to suck cos it eliminates the early game

Have you ever tried playing against VS with treads and 5 bracers against 1v1? I used to do that to people for fun.

Anyway, since you guys are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously, let's begin. Three strategies with 4k gold:
- Huskar with armlet as 1st item against alche with radi = GG
- Basically any annoying fuckface with armlet against alche with radi = GG
- Invoker with etheral against alche with radi = GG
- Witch Doctor with dagon against alche with radi = GG

These are by far the dumbest strategies I could think of. Also, if anyone is retarded enough to play with 4k at start, take ursa, buy vlads and three poor man's shields and go kill roshan. Lagabuse pubberz usually don't expect this.

The fact that I "had" to write this down makes me want to kill myself...

Town of Portal Scroll
75g
Teleports your hero to a targeted ally building or creep. Doesn't work on wards.

>75g.


Invoker/WD?
Black King Bar
Grants Avatar, active which gives spell protection for 10/9/8/7/6/5/4 seconds, blocking effects from most spells.

RAW MASTER RACE

i have jeans
i have a door
jeandork.
kappa.


kid gtfo and see the fucking sun pls. and stop fucking spamming
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: North_Legionare on October 03, 2016, 23:28
By the way, Alchemist with Radiance as a first item for 1v1, what the f*ck. Take VS, buy treads and 5 bracers and just go melee yelling "This is SPARTAAAAAA". Even that would work like a charm here...
What if they play 1v1 with full gold (over 4k?)? Then Alche can basically buy Radi straight away...

Then again, 1v1 with full gold is a reason to suck cos it eliminates the early game

Have you ever tried playing against VS with treads and 5 bracers against 1v1? I used to do that to people for fun.

Anyway, since you guys are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously, let's begin. Three strategies with 4k gold:
- Huskar with armlet as 1st item against alche with radi = GG
- Basically any annoying fuckface with armlet against alche with radi = GG
- Invoker with etheral against alche with radi = GG
- Witch Doctor with dagon against alche with radi = GG

These are by far the dumbest strategies I could think of. Also, if anyone is retarded enough to play with 4k at start, take ursa, buy vlads and three poor man's shields and go kill roshan. Lagabuse pubberz usually don't expect this.

The fact that I "had" to write this down makes me want to kill myself...

Town of Portal Scroll
75g
Teleports your hero to a targeted ally building or creep. Doesn't work on wards.

>75g.


Invoker/WD?
Black King Bar
Grants Avatar, active which gives spell protection for 10/9/8/7/6/5/4 seconds, blocking effects from most spells.



Are you actually taking this as a serious topic? They are playing with 4k gold at start, why would anyone take this seriously? What is wrong with you, who the hell plays with 4k gold at start? And who the hell plays 1v1 with Radiance? This is too much for me to handle, I'm out, screw this...
Title: Re: Dota Alchemist 1vs1
Post by: dotADRENALiNE on October 04, 2016, 01:17
By the way, Alchemist with Radiance as a first item for 1v1, what the f*ck. Take VS, buy treads and 5 bracers and just go melee yelling "This is SPARTAAAAAA". Even that would work like a charm here...
What if they play 1v1 with full gold (over 4k?)? Then Alche can basically buy Radi straight away...

Then again, 1v1 with full gold is a reason to suck cos it eliminates the early game

Have you ever tried playing against VS with treads and 5 bracers against 1v1? I used to do that to people for fun.

Anyway, since you guys are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously, let's begin. Three strategies with 4k gold:
- Huskar with armlet as 1st item against alche with radi = GG
- Basically any annoying fuckface with armlet against alche with radi = GG
- Invoker with etheral against alche with radi = GG
- Witch Doctor with dagon against alche with radi = GG

These are by far the dumbest strategies I could think of. Also, if anyone is retarded enough to play with 4k at start, take ursa, buy vlads and three poor man's shields and go kill roshan. Lagabuse pubberz usually don't expect this.

The fact that I "had" to write this down makes me want to kill myself...

Town of Portal Scroll
75g
Teleports your hero to a targeted ally building or creep. Doesn't work on wards.

>75g.


Invoker/WD?
Black King Bar
Grants Avatar, active which gives spell protection for 10/9/8/7/6/5/4 seconds, blocking effects from most spells.



Are you actually taking this as a serious topic? They are playing with 4k gold at start, why would anyone take this seriously? What is wrong with you, who the hell plays with 4k gold at start? And who the hell plays 1v1 with Radiance? This is too much for me to handle, I'm out, screw this...

Actually something I just realised, they are getting like 6 gold per second, 4 people are leavers, IIRC after an update instead of 1 per second it changed to 1.6?? Every 0.6s you get 1 gold, not sure if I fucked that up. yeah i did, every 6s you get 10, so every 3 you get 5, every 1,5 you get 2,25 nvm fuck this, so basically they will reach the late game by around minute 15-20. basically:
play 1v1 same heroes
-apomsh
-use mid laners, dont go fucking enigmas or shit
-625 starting gold.
-buy a fuck damn courier
-use dota 2 rules basically, d1 rules are bullshit, each platform has different ones and they are retarded, either botlte or courier lmao, probably cos an admin got rekt they had to make that or to make them shorter and less competitive cos they dont have time