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« on: May 27, 2021, 00:38 »
They didn't play from the beginning.
02:07 Russian-Mafia [Allies] feeding tine
04:10 Russian-Mafia [Allies] 15 gg
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« on: May 26, 2021, 21:59 »
locknatter mindcontrol russian-mafia game ruin 02:07 Russian-Mafia [Allies] feeding tine 04:10 Russian-Mafia [Allies] 15 gg 08:55 Russian-Mafia [Allies] 3 0 08:58 Russian-Mafia [Allies] RETARDS 09:06 MindControl [Allies] 4 0 ke e sega 16:13 Russian-Mafia [Allies] i dont want win 16:35 Russian-Mafia [Allies] i just wait 15 for -gg Not farming, telling us to go FF in 15 mins. Lich using ulti on creeps (around 18:00). Not having an item (magnus got only boots in 20th minute). They accept the loss from the beginning. This is also another example of bad game. I lost 17 PSR because I got 1450. I played good, did my items, warded etc. But Lich and Magnus got 1650+ PSRS, they made the balance and lost only 3 PSR with zero effect in game. https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6390395
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« on: May 26, 2021, 15:29 »
Thats why I offered to add a rule, instead of changing balance commands. It works really simple, high psrs can play in every game and if host stack a few hgh psrs (or new accounts with good kda numbers) on his team and if this is not a friend game, then it can be bannable. It is not a mandatory command, it is open for admins evaluation, just like other rules.
This solution is not blocking anyone from playling in games, it does not need any new commands. It is a practical solution for everyone.
Actually, this topic was opened for the discussion of adding a rule to lobby rules but it changed to our new balance system. Can we talk about my first offer? Do you think there is a problem in implementing such a rule?
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« on: May 26, 2021, 10:36 »
Well, this is a direct insult and I am not going to start a conversation on it. You can still use a report for me, if you think I was the sole reason of or loss. You can see the chatlog in same link, and what happened really.
But thank you for giving a good example of bad game. As you see, this game is balanced because both teams have high PSR players. 1675 psr carry played 2-11, while 1665 psr on other team played 12-0. That caused the game to end in 30 mins. According to your idea, that 1675 had to play vey good and low players in his team had to ruin that game?
Playing with players in your level is an option, but in order to improve your skills you need to play with pros. Thats why there are many mixed games. Yes, I am also looking to balance them instead of blaming players.
I agree game quality depends on player level and psr balance theorically puts pros and noobs in same team. Some players really ruins games, like rage quitting, selling items, sabotaging teammates and they got a ban for that. But players with low skills, not having an intention of ruining the game can benefit from mixed games. If you like, you can see many games in my account, where I played like 1700 PSR with my “1400 psr” account, and lost games because real 1700 PSR played bad. This is a result of having mixed games and learning how to play.
Kicking players out of the game is not my interest. Hosts are responsible for their games and they can kick anyone. Personally, when I host a mid quality game, I kick players with very good KDA just to have a good game. Many hosts lock them in their team to have easy psr. It is completely up to host.
And please express your opinions without blaming anyone if you want to discuss on a topic.
And finally as a reply of your first question, good game means a 50+min, same level of kills, 2nd level towers destroyed and team played game to me.
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« on: May 26, 2021, 00:45 »
After Cen's last post about new formula on balance system, 80-20 balance game is possible again. But pro players that stack and host a 80-20 game will get no PSR. What about low players in other team, they lose the game for sure and lost 20-30 PSR?
After such a player loses enough PSR he/she would probably learn to leave such lobbies and not play them. Non-automated lobbies can't be fixed in every single way.
Yes, and we didn't need a new balance formula from this point of view. My aim was having good games in every single match, no matter how pro or bad you are. We are all here for good game. When it is easy to prevent stacking, by adding a stacking rule in lobby rules, I do not understand how come we get into the same point that we were 1 month ago, after all new formulas and 4 pages of topic.
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« on: May 25, 2021, 22:09 »
After Cen's last post about new formula on balance system, 80-20 balance game is possible again. But pro players that stack and host a 80-20 game will get no PSR. What about low players in other team, they lose the game for sure and lost 20-30 PSR?
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« on: May 25, 2021, 21:15 »
locknatter dark-crawler family related flame 41:20 DARK-crawler [Allies] amına kodum cocu - son of a bitch 42:08 locknatter [Allies] ben mi feedledim? - who fed him? 42:13 DARK-crawler [Allies] anan - your mom 43:23 DARK-crawler [Allies] oc - son of a bitch He blames me for refusing to def, I def for 35 mins but they were overfed, game ended in 41 mins. https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6390144
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« on: May 23, 2021, 11:51 »
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« on: May 22, 2021, 20:50 »
locknatter -merlin family related flame 17:54 -merlin [Allies] girsene 17:55 -merlin [Allies] aptal 17:57 -merlin [Allies] oruıspu 17:57 -merlin [Allies] cocugu (go you fucking son of a bitch) 19:01 locknatter [Allies] ozu dilemek icin 2 dakikan var (you got 2 mins to apologise) 19:07 -merlin [Allies] ananı allahını sikerim (fuck your mother and your god) My spell was on cd and he flamed me. https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6389347
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« on: May 13, 2021, 22:26 »
Thx dude
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« on: May 11, 2021, 23:20 »
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« on: May 10, 2021, 23:48 »
An idea: Excessive stacking in games is not allowed (repetitively swapping players after balance, locking new players in the opposite team,etc).
It will be up to the mod/admin to decide whether a host is stacking or not based on many factors and lobbies. Unfortunately, for every more specific rule/or bot changes I can think of problems tthat appear. I think the b&u staff can use its judgment to identify the problematic lobbies.
What do you all think of a generic rule that prohibits excessive stacking? I havent discuss it with cen but the punishment could potentially be lose of host priveleges. For example, if a player is identified as repetitive stacker he will lose his privilege to host for 1 week/1month etc.
(repetitively swapping players after balance, locking new players in the opposite team,etc) and locking low players/high players in same team... Removing hosting rights might be good, but that means stackers can still play games as guest. What about, banning him at first-second time and removing hosting rights+ban for 3rd time?
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« on: May 08, 2021, 13:31 »
After iErnesto94's last message on a locked topic, I suggest adding a rule and a sanction for stacking. There will not be a command, or auto balance check before the game starts but just like other rules, stacking will be reported if a player thinks that stacking ruined the game. Then, B&U admins check if there is a stacking.
If you play a stacking game with all your friends (I mean 10 players are friends or sth), or if a team intentionally wants to play vs stackers then nobody will report it.
In addition, stacking is not only about PSR. Some new accounts do not have high PSR but very good stats (like 13/2/8) and locking these players is also stacking. We need to add KDA stacking because players can create new accounts just to avoid stacking.
It is just adding a line in lobby rules.
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« on: May 04, 2021, 22:49 »
Most of the players think it is good idea. It does not change anything. Plus, now we have a stacker in administration.
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