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Strategy Discussion Section => DotA Discussion => Topic started by: Resor on February 07, 2010, 18:10
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QUESTION1: does -ah command really detect maphack users and couse them to "connection error - ECONNRESET"?
QUESTION2: does -ah command make "connection error - ECONNRESET" to players who never used maphack?
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...i think -ah is pure BS...it there to give an ilusion of protection and keep avail noob mh-ers... 8)
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from what i know ah doesn't disconnect maphackers (unless maphack is crap made by amatuers) but it disable minimap maphacking like u have mh but u cant see enemy dots in map smth like that
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lol i think that the -ah doesnt do anything. my friend had an potm in his game with maphack and host typed -ah. and he did some epic shots lol
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thanks. what about Q2?
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Well thier is one reason to find out go do single player game with pd bot n get mh just for one game . Then write -ah see what happens.... Anyway if u use mh at start game it might dc u but if u put it on after host types -ah nothing happens. Tried in single player game.. Yes The errconnection thing happens when mher gets kicked out by -ah
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Well thier is one reason to find out go do single player game with pd bot n get mh just for one game . Then write -ah see what happens.... Anyway if u use mh at start game it might dc u but if u put it on after host types -ah nothing happens. Tried in single player game.. Yes The errconnection thing happens when mher gets kicked out by -ah
Thanks.. That's what I though.
And Q2 mistery left. Is player without any kind of cheats like MH has been kicked after -ah was writen. I mean kicked by DOTA error or smth like this.
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hmm i think when u type -ah at the right time at the beggining the others with mh might be kicked out...check it like slavi said try it, test it and then u will se, but the best way to find out if a guy has mh just see how he plays or check replays...and for the Q2 i think i does not make any errors to players that havent used mh...either inproper sync or bad internet connection they have... and if they get connection error - ECONRESET it is just coincidance...
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So it seems that only players who didnt switch MH after last played game and join game where host type -ah get connection error - ECONRESET.
I dont want to download it becouse it may contain exploits like viruses and troyans undetectable by antivir scanners.
I'd read some about MH and how it works:
If you dont want to risk detection by -ah command you simply need to switch on MH after host type it. When you finish every single game you have to close your warcraft3 becouse undetected MH can be switched off only that way.
If MH user forget to close war3 before next game and host type -ah, MH may be detected as connection error - ECONRESET and drop the player.
I've experience copule of times when host typed -ah and couse player to be dropped. If its not coincidence, that must be MH.
AIN'T I'M RIGHT?
This is not happend to "clean" players.
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haha yeah. Anyway i know what happens cuz kassel tested it and he told us same thing.
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haha yeah. Anyway i know what happens cuz kassel tested it and he told us same thing.
Hmmm. So regarding to this topic http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php?topic=1160.0 MAPHACKING is worth 5 warns.
Conclusion: Do not flame, leave, do backdoor becouse you may get banned. USE MH becouse all you can get is couple of meaningless warns. Better use MH and get score 20-0 than dont use MH and feed ganked (and prolly votekicked and banned for beeing noob).
Actualy for using MH is the softest punishment here.
Today it happend to me again:
Resor 0:03 -rdso 0:03
Resor 0:10 -ii 0:10
Resor 0:13 -music orc2 0:13
TzapuTTW 0:19 fucking heroes 0:19
TzapuTTW 0:22 -ii 0:22
Resor 0:27 -ah 0:27
Resor 0:29 Hewox10 has lost the connection (connection error - ECONNRESET). 0:29
Making ban req for 5warns is not wort my time so I will not do that ever again.
FEEL FREE TO USE MAPHACK WITH PD.EU BOTS! YOU WONT EVEN SUFFER PUNISHMENT WITH THAT RULES.
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haha yeah. Anyway i know what happens cuz kassel tested it and he told us same thing.
Hmmm. So regarding to this topic http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php?topic=1160.0 MAPHACKING is worth 5 warns.
Conclusion: Do not flame, leave, do backdoor becouse you may get banned. USE MH becouse all you can get is couple of meaningless warns. Better use MH and get score 20-0 than dont use MH and feed ganked (and prolly votekicked and banned for beeing noob).
Actualy for using MH is the softest punishment here.
Today it happend to me again:
Resor 0:03 -rdso 0:03
Resor 0:10 -ii 0:10
Resor 0:13 -music orc2 0:13
TzapuTTW 0:19 fucking heroes 0:19
TzapuTTW 0:22 -ii 0:22
Resor 0:27 -ah 0:27
Resor 0:29 Hewox10 has lost the connection (connection error - ECONNRESET). 0:29
Making ban req for 5warns is not wort my time so I will not do that ever again.
FEEL FREE TO USE MAPHACK WITH PD.EU BOTS! YOU WONT EVEN SUFFER PUNISHMENT WITH THAT RULES.
I only warned him, because I can't be sure that he is using mh. And the following proves it.
This is an experimental command...
The pause/unpause is not a bug.
If I have proof that he is using mh, He will get a ban for ~1month.
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I'm really dunno if im right, I'm not playing dota 7 months ago, i don't know if that command has been improved.
My experience with -ah command was that it is an useless command (I turned mh on for testing and it showed nothing).
Also i found that custom keys applications like warkeys are currently detected as MH (it may happen with other 3rd parties apps). People using warkeys is being disconnected with -ah.
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yeah sometimes happens same for me also :/ anyway pvpgn servers and custom games was always full of ppls who uses maphacks server admins do nothing to stop the mhers :/
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Mh is allowed in games other than ladder warcraft 3 in eurobattle.net. Thats why it is so widely used...
One could write an application for it (like anti-wallhack stuff in fpp games), but I think 50% of playdota.eu players would stop playing becouse they dont know how to install it ;/
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So actualy we dont have ANY protection against MH. One way to detect it is eagle eye and replays analyze.
Quite pathetic dont you think?
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So actualy we dont have ANY protection against MH. One way to detect it is eagle eye and replays analyze.
Quite pathetic dont you think?
There is nothing is perfect.
And it is something.
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haha :D maan if a noob uses mh, that does not mean he can be better then u... but if a pro uses it then u are done :D kidding...one way or another, not to many ppl use mh...i mean it for the pros...
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haha yeah. Anyway i know what happens cuz kassel tested it and he told us same thing.
Hmmm. So regarding to this topic http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php?topic=1160.0 MAPHACKING is worth 5 warns.
Conclusion: Do not flame, leave, do backdoor becouse you may get banned. USE MH becouse all you can get is couple of meaningless warns. Better use MH and get score 20-0 than dont use MH and feed ganked (and prolly votekicked and banned for beeing noob).
Actualy for using MH is the softest punishment here.
Today it happend to me again:
Resor 0:03 -rdso 0:03
Resor 0:10 -ii 0:10
Resor 0:13 -music orc2 0:13
TzapuTTW 0:19 fucking heroes 0:19
TzapuTTW 0:22 -ii 0:22
Resor 0:27 -ah 0:27
Resor 0:29 Hewox10 has lost the connection (connection error - ECONNRESET). 0:29
Making ban req for 5warns is not wort my time so I will not do that ever again.
FEEL FREE TO USE MAPHACK WITH PD.EU BOTS! YOU WONT EVEN SUFFER PUNISHMENT WITH THAT RULES.
hmm i think u are right... how many warns does a guy get before being banned?? at least ban him for a week, let him wandering if he has done anything wrong and if it happens again another ban, this time for a month..
conclusion: we can never be safe of mh users, some ppl go in random places and find others farming or something like it and that does not mean he is using mh... i have done so many times and often i catch low hp heroes farming in woods and we kill them...
i am gonna ask a couple of friends that might know anything about this.. gonna reply here soon...
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Kicking up a old post, but many pros use MH in games. And many of them still cnt beat a kd of 1. The only time mh have a great advantage is with pudge, but other then that they still have to fight you, and obviously if ur farming in your forest and its the beginning of game and they come kill you straight to you there mh. But they dont have uber powers and still can be killed.
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Mh is allowed in games other than ladder warcraft 3 in eurobattle.net. Thats why it is so widely used...
Really? Then i might be a noob, cuz i never tried it. I don't believe that it's widely used. I had just one game where it was obvious that he had some kind of reveal... And against pro players it's useless anyway... People how think they need should learn to play.
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I'm really dunno if im right, I'm not playing dota 7 months ago, i don't know if that command has been improved.
My experience with -ah command was that it is an useless command (I turned mh on for testing and it showed nothing).
Also i found that custom keys applications like warkeys are currently detected as MH (it may happen with other 3rd parties apps). People using warkeys is being disconnected with -ah.
Hmmm...I'm using warkeys and i don't have that problem...I mean it doesn't disc me cause im using warkeys....
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lol i think that the -ah doesnt do anything. my friend had an potm in his game with maphack and host typed -ah. and he did some epic shots lol
Heheheheh... My firend is an acronym for ME ;D ;D ;D