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Title: Stats reset - voting
Post by: LexMonster on May 18, 2019, 12:20
Hello everyone,

Would you like stats to be reseted now, or should we postpone it? Please share your opinion. Thanks in advance

Best regards
LA staff
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: FataLity- on May 18, 2019, 13:09
We would like you to reset them in fixed intervals instead of when it randomly comes to your mind. For that matter reseting now and scheduling another reset date such as 3 months from now on would be ideal
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: AGENT on May 18, 2019, 14:29
@LexMonster Add pool.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Jedivh on May 18, 2019, 15:50
@LexMonster Add pool.
Poll created.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: FataLity- on May 18, 2019, 16:14
Since I got disliked, I assume I couldn't explain my self well. I would like to write a longer post and explain the problem on my perspective.
Current system works as follows:
 You start with 1500 psr lets say it takes a month to get 1700 psr. After a month It would only take 3-4 days to get that psr. First guy played maybe 100 games to get 1700 however second guy who started later got it in 20 wins. If someone wants to get 1st on ladder he can do it in just last month before the stats reset.
Look at C-HOSEN's psr now he played 500 games to get that psr, If I play 100games with similar win rate on 1500psr account I can even get more psr than him even though he played much more and therefore deserved more.
If you keep the intervals close though, there wouldn't be much psr difference between first player and some guy in middle and it would also fix the !balance issue.
One of the reasons I quit this server is I simply cannot start a game with my main account. I get kicked out of lobbies for having high psr difference it takes me 1 hour of lobby duration to play 30 minutes of game.
 Another example is last season, I have no idea how long that season was played. I assume it was about 1-1.5 year. I simply thought its enough when I had 100 psr more than the second place. I assumed no-one can come that far anyway since a game at 1800 psr was giving just 1 point and second place had to win 100 matches at least. However you guys didn't reset the stats and other guys played 4-5 months more after I gave a break and they surpass me.
The point is there is no competition if you don't say this season will end at this point. Lets be honest here there is literally no fun in online games if there is no competition even the players that we argued with flamed each other etc makes the game fun.
AND it gets shitty if that reset schedule is too long. After a while all you get is 1 point, and you know that after a month people at this point will get 5 point per game.
Also the lobby kicks at 1800psr + can be solved with low reset intervals.
I know its a long post but I wanted to make my point clear I just want to make eurobattle better for players.
Cheers,
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: begin on May 18, 2019, 16:46
i need to agree
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: beastiary on May 18, 2019, 16:53
Since I got disliked, I assume I couldn't explain my self well. I would like to write a longer post and explain the problem on my perspective.
Current system works as follows:
 You start with 1500 psr lets say it takes a month to get 1700 psr. After a month It would only take 3-4 days to get that psr. First guy played maybe 100 games to get 1700 however second guy who started later got it in 20 wins. If someone wants to get 1st on ladder he can do it in just last month before the stats reset.
Look at C-HOSEN's psr now he played 500 games to get that psr, If I play 100games with similar win rate on 1500psr account I can even get more psr than him even though he played much more and therefore deserved more.
If you keep the intervals close though, there wouldn't be much psr difference between first player and some guy in middle and it would also fix the !balance issue.
One of the reasons I quit this server is I simply cannot start a game with my main account. I get kicked out of lobbies for having high psr difference it takes me 1 hour of lobby duration to play 30 minutes of game.
 Another example is last season, I have no idea how long that season was played. I assume it was about 1-1.5 year. I simply thought its enough when I had 100 psr more than the second place. I assumed no-one can come that far anyway since a game at 1800 psr was giving just 1 point and second place had to win 100 matches at least. However you guys didn't reset the stats and other guys played 4-5 months more after I gave a break and they surpass me.
The point is there is no competition if you don't say this season will end at this point. Lets be honest here there is literally no fun in online games if there is no competition even the players that we argued with flamed each other etc makes the game fun.
AND it gets shitty if that reset schedule is too long. After a while all you get is 1 point, and you know that after a month people at this point will get 5 point per game.
Also the lobby kicks at 1800psr + can be solved with low reset intervals.
I know its a long post but I wanted to make my point clear I just want to make eurobattle better for players.
Cheers,

i would not say that you got disliked, more like just ignored, however you are absolutely right. is anything gonna change? hard to say
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Renovatio on May 18, 2019, 17:13
@FataLity- I dont know who gave you negative karma but probably it was something personal since your post was nothing more than positive feedback, at least from my pov.

What you said is right but I think there is a serious reason behind the current length settings of DotA ladder seasons. As a staff member and player I noticed that most of rule-breaking and leaving happens at the start of the season. Is chaos. People dont care for rules when their accounts hold no stats and most of them dont know we can lock their IP for rule-breaking so they break rules thinking bans are 100% avoidable. Leaving happens in every game for almost 1 month. They get bad score and lose > they leave, re-activate another acc or create fresh one and join again and repeat this process until they are satisfied with their stats and wins. This is also reinforced due to imbalanced games. When everybody has 1500 PSR and no stats you cant balance a game. If you get a balanced game then it is by pure chance. This chaos gets some order to the end of the 1st month of the new season. Resetting the stats at 3 months, 1 of those 3 being this chaos, will mean the end of this server.

Imo, solution will be to set it 1 year but rework the balance formula/PSR gain or 6-8 months (no less than 6).

Also, even in such conditions we can never expect a perfect resolution to current game-balancing problems (low skilled players, ruiners, leavers, imperfect balance formula, unfair PSR gain on long-term, etc) and I think this is something that plagues every ladder out there (at least in small, unprofessional, leagues) therefore should be considered natural variables and good players should adapt around them, which only adds more value to their skill, imo  ;D :)

Season schedule is a must. If setting an exact end/start date is not possible at least with a 2-7 days difference error.
 :peace:
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: FataLity- on May 18, 2019, 17:46
@FataLity- I dont know who gave you negative karma but probably it was something personal since your post was nothing more than positive feedback, at least from my pov.

What you said is right but I think there is a serious reason behind the current length settings of DotA ladder seasons. As a staff member and player I noticed that most of rule-breaking and leaving happens at the start of the season. Is chaos. People dont care for rules when their accounts hold no stats and most of them dont know we can lock their IP for rule-breaking so they break rules thinking bans are 100% avoidable. Leaving happens in every game for almost 1 month. They get bad score and lose > they leave, re-activate another acc or create fresh one and join again and repeat this process until they are satisfied with their stats and wins. This is also reinforced due to imbalanced games. When everybody has 1500 PSR and no stats you cant balance a game. If you get a balanced game then it is by pure chance. This chaos gets some order to the end of the 1st month of the new season. Resetting the stats at 3 months, 1 of those 3 being this chaos, will mean the end of this server.

Imo, solution will be to set it 1 year but rework the balance formula/PSR gain or 6-8 months (no less than 6).

Also, even in such conditions we can never expect a perfect resolution to current game-balancing problems (low skilled players, ruiners, leavers, imperfect balance formula, unfair PSR gain on long-term, etc) and I think this is something that plagues every ladder out there (at least in small, unprofessional, leagues) therefore should be considered natural variables and good players should adapt around them, which only adds more value to their skill, imo  ;D :)

Season schedule is a must. If setting an exact end/start date is not possible at least with a 2-7 days difference error.
 :peace:
I agree it has tradeoffs, but such long-term season kills the fun. Every new season comes with excitement for the players, making it once a year tho uh. It is just too long, the ideal is a month imo. I have played in many servers, some of them are using monthly resets, some yearly some never even reset the stats.
I will list the trade offs that I can think of and people can add a piece of mind and later vote for what's the best for most?
Yearly Reset:
PROS:
- Good for evaluating players since the nick probably have enough statistics.
- After first month, less chaos [Renovatio]
CONS
- Very long goal which kills the fun of it.
- High psr difference between players which causes kicks, unbalanced games etc.
- Low to no reward for being successful in such long run.

Monthly Reset:
PROS
- More variety of winners
- More exciting start of the month
- Less gap between players / Less kicking etc
CONS
- Since stat reset is done frequently you cant decide if the player is bad or not



I also think the chaos at first month is not just first month related issue, it is caused because there is no account value. It takes an email to create an account. If you look at games even today you will see that majority is accounts with less than 10 games. They are mostly not new players they are just players who is avoiding ban or trying to make better stats. If SMS verification or HWID ban entegrated to proxy comes it would increase the value of accounts.

Another important topic must be discussed is rewards imo.
Right now, a winner of yearly season gets nothing more than a winner of 20 minutes tournament.
With a quick thought I can think much better rewards, maybe not sufficient for winner of 1 year ladder but I think it is enough for 1-2 month of work.
- The same rank in channels with la-dota bot, maybe just visually not ban/unban rights for a month.
- A hero skin (costs 5$ I think DracoL1ch may even give it for free if you explain nicely)
- Maybe some authority in game such as not directly getting banned in leave situations or able to mute the flamers etc for a month.

From experience the yearly system just turns into a cycle. Someone gets number 1 then gets bored. Other takes over then he gets bored and so on. Whats fun is the games between first and second player. The monthly system would provide it since both of the players are active at the moment.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Renovatio on May 18, 2019, 18:16
There's not much to give. If you check LA's patreon page there you will find basically everything we can give.

Mostly forum awards can be given:
- unique membergroup "Ladder Number 1" (or something like that),
- icons,
 -profile title (in profile summary or under avatar, set by admins, not self-editable like custom title)
- special color in whos online
- access to private boards


Server/bot awards:
- icons
- voice on lagabuse.com channel
- perm acc activation
- stats reset/swap
- operator in non-official channel

About skin from Dracol1ch: mby cen can try asking for it.
Muting players: will be abused for sure.
Not getting autobanned: rules are for everybody, even for staff
Channel operator on LA: not even mods get it and has high access, giving only the icon will be confusing since people will think you are admin

I dont know how it can be implemented, it all depends on cen but mby a nice award will be special text color (like channel ops have blue) or colored nick.

If you or anybody else think at a nice award that is satisfying feel free to suggest it and we can ask administrators for its implementation but keep in mind that getting power over other players is not possible (like mutting, kicking, banning, etc).
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: ilikedat on May 19, 2019, 09:49
whats the point of reseting stats now that we have only one player with 1900 psr? we all used to play 1700-1800 games daily and now only ap fast full of noobs which is causing players to leave lagabuse. imo stats shouldnt be reseted for some time.

The point is there is no competition if you don't say this season will end at this point. Lets be honest here there is literally no fun in online games if there is no competition even the players that we argued with flamed each other etc makes the game fun.
Cheers,
deadline is needed before the new season stats.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Meth0d on May 19, 2019, 10:54
You need to save stats of players amd reset only psr, so stats hunters wont make new acc on new season etc... Some ppl play for stats longer so they would like to save it, and also you can see who is good player or bad if u play better games or something. Also give all ppl chance to reset stats like those in vip, by making req in unban req if someone doesnt like his stats so they dont make thones of accs, and you can make it 1 reset per every 10 days cuz active users play a lot per day and also if u make season that last few months 10 days is fine i think. And you avoid players addicted to stats and u get more interesting 3 5 months season so everyone can compete in shorter time is harder to make psr sometimes. And there is stats reset per every 10 days or something and if some1 ruins or avoid ban u lock him for 2 days and they will stop that cuz they can play on one acc or 2 max. Simple as that.

btw draco wont give u for free nothing, u are funny if u think that will happen he doesnt give on his main server to give it here where is no ppl. :peace:
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: LexMonster on May 20, 2019, 09:46
I am really glad I opened this topic, since we really do have things to discuss.
Also, thank all of you for giving us feedback, we appriciate it.

Now, with regards to the suggestions:
• Season schedule is a very good idea, we used to have it, but due to the lack of players in recent years, we let seasons last longer, for the sake of PSR. Maybe it was bad idea. To be changed definitely, once we conclude everything from this topic.

• An alternative solution to this, if you (plural) want more competitive ladder, is to have the season goal. Season will end once the first player reacheas XXX psr (for example 1900). Its just an idea I got now, which may improve competition.

• If we want to set a fixed date of ladder reset, what would be the best time to start season? Server gets deserted during summer, people dont spend too much time indoor, so how good would be to reset it now? Season should start on september, I believe. Please propose different date if you disagree, with valid reasons.

• Monthly reset is bad option, like Renovation said, users will just leave games all the time, and create new account(s). This might be solved with stats reset per user request indeed, but this feature is reserved for VIPs/Patreons/Tour Supporters. If we give it to everyone, it would be pointless. Actually, even these mentioned membergroups have only 1 reset per month.
Season should last minimum 6 months.

• Winner of entire season does not get the same award as tournament winner, and you know it. First of all, he gets promoted to VIP membergroup which comes with the varierty of additional privileges. On top of that, he gets channel voice, unique icon, etc..
Tournament winner gets X amount of psr and 2 icons.
These 2 really can not be compared, you will agree.

• Storing stats is also good suggestion, staff already discussed about it, and to be honest, I cant remember the outcome of it. PSR and K/D/A can not be saved obviously, but we could save last seasons PSR or highest PSR ever.
So for example, when the season starts, if you check someones stats, you'll see the following:
[User] hasn't played any DotA games in current season. Last season PSR: 1899
Or, once user plays one game, it would look be something like:
[User] PSR: 1515 games: 563 W/L: 1/0 last season PSR: 1899
H. K/D/A 10/5/12 C. K/D/N 100/10/25
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: FataLity- on May 20, 2019, 10:58
I am really glad I opened this topic, since we really do have things to discuss.
Also, thank all of you for giving us feedback, we appriciate it.

Now, with regards to the suggestions:
• Season schedule is a very good idea, we used to have it, but due to the lack of players in recent years, we let seasons last longer, for the sake of PSR. Maybe it was bad idea. To be changed definitely, once we conclude everything from this topic.

• An alternative solution to this, if you (plural) want more competitive ladder, is to have the season goal. Season will end once the first player reacheas XXX psr (for example 1900). Its just an idea I got now, which may improve competition.

• If we want to set a fixed date of ladder reset, what would be the best time to start season? Server gets deserted during summer, people dont spend too much time indoor, so how good would be to reset it now? Season should start on september, I believe. Please propose different date if you disagree, with valid reasons.

• Monthly reset is bad option, like Renovation said, users will just leave games all the time, and create new account(s). This might be solved with stats reset per user request indeed, but this feature is reserved for VIPs/Patreons/Tour Supporters. If we give it to everyone, it would be pointless. Actually, even these mentioned membergroups have only 1 reset per month.
Season should last minimum 6 months.

• Winner of entire season does not get the same award as tournament winner, and you know it. First of all, he gets promoted to VIP membergroup which comes with the varierty of additional privileges. On top of that, he gets channel voice, unique icon, etc..
Tournament winner gets X amount of psr and 2 icons.
These 2 really can not be compared, you will agree.

• Storing stats is also good suggestion, staff already discussed about it, and to be honest, I cant remember the outcome of it. PSR and K/D/A can not be saved obviously, but we could save last seasons PSR or highest PSR ever.
So for example, when the season starts, if you check someones stats, you'll see the following:
[User] hasn't played any DotA games in current season. Last season PSR: 1899
Or, once user plays one game, it would look be something like:
[User] PSR: 1515 games: 563 W/L: 1/0 last season PSR: 1899
H. K/D/A 10/5/12 C. K/D/N 100/10/25

Season goal can be added for sure If you guys don't want frequent reset yet it stills doesn't fix balance problem. I have to reset my stats every time it gets high to be able to play a game basically.

I don't think reset date should matter at all. If you select to keep intervals high such as 6 months, It is a lot of month anyway people would be able to join the season at some point. If you select to keep intervals low, again it doesn't matter since reset will come anyway.

I'm pretty sure you haven't played at the server for while now because leaving is already a problem. How can it not be when creating an account is very easy. I even try not to kill players more than once in first 5 minutes to be able to play the game.
5v5 finished games are 40% of the time. It doesn't have much to do with stat reset
infect, if you award long term used id's in someway it may give a value to account. For example as you said, show previous season records maybe even a command for all seasons. The only value of the account is "name" at the moment nothing more.

Well if you think a trumpet in channel which has no use and looks bad is a good enough for 6 months of work I must disagree. As far as VIP membership; 20 person gets it, it is nothing special to winner. 
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: bewater on May 20, 2019, 11:00
Meth0d banned 5days + 2x warns.

Renovatio your behaviour will be monitored closely watch your mouth.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Baba roga on May 20, 2019, 11:59
I dont like the idea of a end goal for psr so it resets it will be to much resets of psr i think that the season that lasts 5 or 6 months is better
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Meth0d on May 20, 2019, 16:43
Meth0d banned 5days + 2x warns.

Renovatio your behaviour will be monitored closely watch your mouth.

Sorry sir, can you unban me :( i will play legolas for you!?



Damn i told you solution is easy, and you dont even read it. My suggestion makes all players happy i guess those who hunt stats and those who want to be 1st on ladder and those who hunt psr. And also you avoid that multyaccs with giving reset per some time, that vip and voice icon doesnt do much anyway so what if you give stat reset normal to all players, server needs more players better give them more options. If there is stats reset to all ppl here there would be less ban avoid and staff like that. Nvm you dont listen great minds anyway, thats why you running low on players.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: cen on May 20, 2019, 19:28
I think 4 or 5 months would be reasonable season time.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: FataLity- on May 20, 2019, 19:41
I think 4 or 5 months would be reasonable season time.
Sir please add your reasoning there is no value in such comments. I wrote the main problems 4-5 months season time doesnt fix any of them without adjustment
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Meth0d on May 20, 2019, 19:54
I think 4 or 5 months would be reasonable season time.
Sir please add your reasoning there is no value in such comments. I wrote the main problems 4-5 months season time doesnt fix any of them without adjustment

Take a breath, and get a life. Damn.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: FataLity- on May 20, 2019, 20:00
I think 4 or 5 months would be reasonable season time.
Sir please add your reasoning there is no value in such comments. I wrote the main problems 4-5 months season time doesnt fix any of them without adjustment

Take a breath, and get a life. Damn.
Well unless I spam about it nothing happens. Probably map would be still 6.88 v9. Noone backs me up tho maybe you are right transacting completly to other server would be better for me.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: cen on May 20, 2019, 20:15
I think 4 or 5 months would be reasonable season time.
Sir please add your reasoning there is no value in such comments. I wrote the main problems 4-5 months season time doesnt fix any of them without adjustment

Fixing a flaw in the system with short intervals is backwards, I'd rather fix the system and keep the intervals reasonable. Maybe we can do something about kicking high PSR?

We had some talks internally to outsource the matchmaking to an automated system which results in fixed ready-to-go lobbies but that is far from implementation atm. It would prevent leaving the lobby or player selection tho (and we could incentivize the players to use auto matchmaking lobbies by giving higher psr reward for those games for example).

Also, we'd go from a year/6 month season to 2-3 months season which is a drastic change, I'd rather try something less drastic first.

Another idea is to just restart the season then decide on the fly whether to stop at 3, 4, 5 months.. depending on how the stats flow. We'd just say that we stop on some 30th without exact date.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on May 20, 2019, 21:24
I would not reset stats . There will be many leavers again when everyone has 1500 psr.  One bad game = instantly leave, so pls dont even for next 2 months. TNX
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: cen on May 20, 2019, 23:56
I would not reset stats . There will be many leavers again when everyone has 1500 psr.  One bad game = instantly leave, so pls dont even for next 2 months. TNX

gtfo nab  :soldier:
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: LexMonster on May 21, 2019, 10:23
We can solve some of the issues on the run, as we see the progress on the ladder. Since majority of the users voted for stats reset, I propose to do it on 1st June. Anyone opposing?
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: ilikedat on May 21, 2019, 12:12
We can solve some of the issues on the run, as we see the progress on the ladder. Since majority of the users voted for stats reset, I propose to do it on 1st June. Anyone opposing?
well 10 votes arnt the majority cuz there are 313k users on server :D
for me its better to reset after the summer so everyone can have time to play.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: begin on May 21, 2019, 13:52
313 000 users andi? Did mara give you some of his stuff
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: ilikedat on May 21, 2019, 15:44
313 000 users andi? Did mara give you some of his stuff
users/accounts,not active users.
(https://imgur.com/Pq86qz7.jpeg)
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: AGENT on May 21, 2019, 16:20
And you think all of them are unique persons? There is no people with multiple accs?
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: cen on May 21, 2019, 16:32
Those who visit the forum have the right to vote ofc.. same as elections.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: ilikedat on May 21, 2019, 16:55
And you think all of them are unique persons? There is no people with multiple accs?
I never said there are 313k different users,i just said u cant take an action based only on that poll cuz most of the users dont have a forum account or dont even know about this topic.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: AGENT on May 21, 2019, 18:25
And you think all of them are unique persons? There is no people with multiple accs?
I never said there are 313k different users,i just said u cant take an action based only on that poll cuz most of the users dont have a forum account or dont even know about this topic.
And I never said that you said there are 313k users.  :peace:
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: LexMonster on May 27, 2019, 11:54
Ok then, its settled. Thank you all for voting and giving us feedback, we really appriciate it.
Do not hesitate to share your feedback at any given moment, because that is the only way to help us improve! http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=159615.msg687719#msg687719
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: LexMonster on June 08, 2019, 09:32
A week has passed since the reset, so what are your impressions? Pros and cons?
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: BaKiBaKiBaKi on June 08, 2019, 14:43
-stackers
-leavers
-new accounts (if stats are not good or left a game)
-decent players making new accounts and playing for stats and picking bugs like lanaya, meepo and few more, and raping noobs and that makes the games so unbalanced and no motivation to play.
Same old shit here...

Maybe try something new and more fun, like resetting the stats every 3 months, winners of all 4 seasons at the end of the year will play some tournament, at the end of each season stats will be reset but not the win/lost so people will play on one account and at the end of the year the top 100 will be awarded. With this model we will see more balanced games and fight for the top. I have few more suggestions but please make this server more fun...
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: -Aleksandar- on June 08, 2019, 18:40
-stackers
-leavers
-new accounts (if stats are not good or left a game)
-decent players making new accounts and playing for stats and picking bugs like lanaya, meepo and few more, and raping noobs and that makes the games so unbalanced and no motivation to play.
Same old shit here...

Maybe try something new and more fun, like resetting the stats every 3 months, winners of all 4 seasons at the end of the year will play some tournament, at the end of each season stats will be reset but not the win/lost so people will play on one account and at the end of the year the top 100 will be awarded. With this model we will see more balanced games and fight for the top. I have few more suggestions but please make this server more fun...

And what about your accounts?
Correct me if im wrong but you already have 3-4 autobanned atm?
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: begin on June 08, 2019, 19:26
youre very right mate aleksandar
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: begin on June 08, 2019, 19:32
A week has passed since the reset, so what are your impressions? Pros and cons?
when will i get my vip status? i believe i was in top 25 :o
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: grga_man on June 08, 2019, 20:22
A week has passed since the reset, so what are your impressions? Pros and cons?
when will i get my vip status? i believe i was in top 25 :o
When you win mid against me, that will be like never, so you get my point, so nothing from vip, my condolence..
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: begin on June 08, 2019, 20:23
Grga is the best mider in the imaginationland
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: BaKiBaKiBaKi on June 08, 2019, 22:17
Yea thats true...i admit...take actions whatever it needs, lock me or do whatever you want, its been a nervous week for me and i have little patience when i play with selfish, arrogant and anti teamplay retards, but yes leaving is not the answer.
But the problem remains, just saying it can be much better here.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: cyb on June 09, 2019, 00:01
3 seasons per year would be great. Maybe some calculation for overall stats(year).
Very interesting topic and very innovating ideas going around,keep up  :y:
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: -Aleksandar- on June 09, 2019, 03:28
Yea thats true...i admit...take actions whatever it needs, lock me or do whatever you want, its been a nervous week for me and i have little patience when i play with selfish, arrogant and anti teamplay retards, but yes leaving is not the answer.
But the problem remains, just saying it can be much better here.

Mate,if you want to change something.. Start from yourself.
I think you will understand what i want to say ;)
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Meth0d on June 09, 2019, 09:53
Is it hard to keep fucking stats and reset only psr ? and Give ppl permission to reset stats once per month so they dont make new accs that much and they can hunt stats and psr. Cuz here most of players playing for stats not for psr, damn im around like 10 years was rly active and i know that all want stats more then psr... w/e :D, seems you ruining this place even more ^^
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: BaKiBaKiBaKi on June 09, 2019, 15:00
I just admit for what i've done, you dont need to explain me more about it.
I thought we are talking and giving ideas about some fresh changes in this server, but since you dont care about anything except talking about me like im some kind of a retard, gameruiner and a antiteam player, then i will say this to you: i will become noob, biggest noob here, and being noob is not a crime. Goodbye.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Meth0d on June 09, 2019, 17:56
I just admit for what i've done, you dont need to explain me more about it.
I thought we are talking and giving ideas about some fresh changes in this server, but since you dont care about anything except talking about me like im some kind of a retard, gameruiner and a antiteam player, then i will say this to you: i will become noob, biggest noob here, and being noob is not a crime. Goodbye.

You are worse thing that could happen to this platform  :y:
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: BaKiBaKiBaKi on June 09, 2019, 18:15
Hi cry baby, been so long...
Did you licked some admins ass so you can ban someone?
Maybe you have their phone numbers now so you call them...
Im the worst thing that happen to this server?
Last year in every game there are at least 5-6 players that have less than 4 kills and more than 12 deaths, there are selfish arrogant players, solo farmers and game ruiners and you say im the worst thing that can happen? Because im a team player, expirienced player that always works for the team and.knows how to win or help team?
I think this server is doomed
Goodbye to you also.
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: Meth0d on June 09, 2019, 20:35
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Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: begin on June 09, 2019, 20:58
Fuck you baki you worthless trash leaver
Title: Re: Stats reset - voting
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 18, 2019, 21:13
Great ideas, especially by fatality