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« on: December 28, 2020, 06:03 »
many bugs not known yet
People never try learn new..
Nothing to learn in Dota2. Better to go www.dota2.com. About 7.00
Neutral gold increased by 10-15% (still lower than it used to be at 6.XX versions by 11%), experience by 5% (compared to 6.90 - reduced by 20%)
XP required for level ups smoothed slightly https://prnt.sc/qt61o6 https://dota2.gamepedia.com/Experience#Leveling
Reworked and simplified XP hero kill bounty system. No longer includes a team XP component
-All: ( 40+ 0.13 * DyingHeroXP ) / # of killers
Additionally, if the killed hero had a killing streak going on, bonus experience is awarded for killing them, on top of the default experience values. https://dota2.gamepedia.com/Experience#Hero_kills
Neutrals
Reduced gold and experience granted by neutrals by 20-25%
Base gold and experience reward for neutrals now increases by 2% with each creep powerup tick (each 7m 30s)
Great place to learn Dota2 with dota2.gamepedia. This week is going to be very very very special. 1000+ week  Week 4
Week3Part2After1000 Dota6.9/games players 12/27 16/26 14/28 13/24 13/24 12+16+14+13+13 = 68/129Dota7.0/games players 15/27 10/26 14/28 11/24 11/24 15+10+14+11+11 = 61/129Week4 Day1Dota6.9/games players 12/28 18/28 17/27 16/26 13/25 19/26 18/27 06/13 12+18+17+16+13+19+18+06 = 119/200Dota7.0/games players 16/28 10/28 10/27 10/26 12/25 07/26 09/27 07/13 16+10+10+10+12+07+09+07 = 81/200
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« on: December 27, 2020, 05:52 »
Dota6.9 = Week1 + Week2 + Week3 = 613 + 638 + 594 = 1845 games played
Dota7.0 = Week1 + Week2 + Week3 = 387 + 362 + 406 = 1155 games played Week3: Total games = 594+406 = 1000 games playedDota6.9 = Day1+Day2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7to1000 = 105+104+87+76+93+104+25 = 594 map6.9 games finishedDota7.0 = Day1+Day2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7to1000 = 74 + 74 +51+53+70+ 67 +17 = 406 map7.0 games finished
Week3 Day1Dota6.9/games players 13/24 16/28 16/29 12/24 16/27 16/23 16/24 13+16+16+12+16+16+16 = 105/179Dota7.0/games players 11/24 12/28 13/29 12/24 11/27 07/23 08/24 11+12+13+12+11+07+08 = 74/179Week3 Day2
Dota6.9/games players 16/30 17/28 16/26 17/24 15/23 15/26 08/21 16+17+16+17+15+15+08 = 104/178Dota7.0/games players 14/30 11/28 10/26 07/24 08/23 11/26 13/21 14+11+10+07+08+11+13 = 74/178Week3 Day3Dota6.9/games players 21/30 16/27 20/29 13/25 17/27 21+16+20+13+17 = 87/138Dota7.0/games players 09/30 11/27 09/29 12/25 10/27 09+11+09+12+10 = 51/138Week3 Day4Dota6.9/games players 18/30 14/27 18/28 15/24 11/20 18+14+18+15+11 = 76/129Dota7.0/games players 12/30 13/27 10/28 09/24 09/20 12+13+10+09+09 = 53/129Week3 Day5Dota6.9/games players 15/27 14/26 15/27 16/27 17/25 12/25 04/06 15+14+15+16+17+12+04 = 93/163Dota7.0/games players 12/27 12/26 12/27 11/27 08/25 13/25 02/06 12+12+12+11+08+13+02 = 70/163Week3 Day6Dota6.9/games players 14/25 17/29 17/29 16/27 16/23 17/27 07/11 14+17+17+16+16+17+07 = 104/171Dota7.0/games players 11/25 12/29 12/29 11/27 07/23 10/27 04/11 11+12+12+11+07+10+04 = 67/171Week3 Day7part1 to 1000Dota6.9/games players 03/04 15/25 07/13 03+15+07 = 25/42Dota7.0/games players 01/04 10/25 06/13 01+10+06 = 17/42Reminder Week2 results:
Dota6.9 = 638 games finished Dota7.0 = 362 games finished Reminder Week1 results:
Dota6.9 = 613 games finished Dota7.0 = 387 games finished cen yesterday Dota6.9 got almost 70% of games. It is more than obvious to see this number is increasing every day for Dota6.9 and Dota7 aka Dota2 game popularity drops. Make Dota6.9 map default again with !pub command, see my proofs/daily statistics.
Gaming experience has been ruined to 70% players 2 weeks ago with switching command and here are few ideas how to fix current situation and to improve gaming experience to 70% players:
- 1. Just switch map again, Dota6.9 as default map with !pub command and Dota7 with !pubSomething
- 2. Separate 2 leagues with 2 ladders for new season, with separated commands and with separated custom games
/w lagabuse !pub name - for Dota6.9
/w la-dota !pub name - for Dota7
or vice versa, /w lagabuse was used in past for original Dota and should be given to Dota6.9
/w customgame !pub name - for custom games
- 3. If separating like this is not possible, give back !pub to 6.9 and make 2 ladders for 2 games. Make exception in database to split 2 maps into 2 public ladders.
- 4. If all above is not possible make !pub to be informative and give to both maps !pubSomething
/w la-dota !pub name
You whisper to la-dota: !pub name
la-dota whispers: To host Dota6.9 map use /w la-dota !pubc name | To host Dota7.0 map use /w la-dota !pubn name To repeat again, favoritism of Dota7 without reason is damaging Dota6.9 in the long run, and Dota6.9 is much more popular with 70% of player base and need to be primary and default map, if not default, then give equality, no advantage should be given to Dota7.
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« on: December 26, 2020, 02:35 »
Week3 Day3Dota6.9/games players 21/30 16/27 20/29 13/25 17/27 21+16+20+13+17 = 87/138Dota7.0/games players 09/30 11/27 09/29 12/25 10/27 09+11+09+12+10 = 51/138     Week3 Day4Dota6.9/games players 18/30 14/27 18/28 15/24 11/20 18+14+18+15+11 = 76/129Dota7.0/games players 12/30 13/27 10/28 09/24 09/20 12+13+10+09+09 = 53/129    
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« on: December 25, 2020, 07:01 »
Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates. Lets see stats for Week #3! Week3 Day1Dota6.9/games players 13/24 16/28 16/29 12/24 16/27 16/23 16/24 13+16+16+12+16+16+16 = 105/179Dota7.0/games players 11/24 12/28 13/29 12/24 11/27 07/23 08/24 11+12+13+12+11+07+08 = 74/179   Week3 Day2
Dota6.9/games players 16/30 17/28 16/26 17/24 15/23 15/26 08/21 16+17+16+17+15+15+08 = 104/178Dota7.0/games players 14/30 11/28 10/26 07/24 08/23 11/26 13/21 14+11+10+07+08+11+13 = 74/178
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« on: December 24, 2020, 20:21 »
Do you know hoe much actually my brains hurts reading comments mordor911 wrote,boy i won against you with blindfold on the eyes every fucking game, stop talking about dota you clueless creature, keep play your 6.9 i don't want to see you in 7.00 anyway.
Good, we understand each other and thank you for support. We are not playing the same game anymore and no point to have any connection. Finally someone from Dota7 club to support my idea in public, You agreed with point 2, 3 and 4, (#2. Separate 2 leagues with 2 ladders, with separated commands, #3 If separating like this is not possible, give back !pub to 6.9 and make 2 ladders for 2 games. Make exception in database to split 2 maps into 2 public ladders, #4 If all above is not possible make !pub to be informative and give to both maps !pubSomething). @bookeyize thanks again for your support. cen yesterday Dota6.9 got almost 70% of games. It is more than obvious to see this number is increasing every day for Dota6.9 and Dota7 aka Dota2 game popularity drops. Make Dota6.9 map default again with !pub command, see my proofs/daily statistics.
Gaming experience has been ruined to 70% players 2 weeks ago with switching command and here are few ideas how to fix current situation and to improve gaming experience to 70% players:
- 1. Just switch map again, Dota6.9 as default map with !pub command and Dota7 with !pubSomething
- 2. Separate 2 leagues with 2 ladders for new season, with separated commands and with separated custom games
/w lagabuse !pub name - for Dota6.9
/w la-dota !pub name - for Dota7
or vice versa, /w lagabuse was used in past for original Dota and should be given to Dota6.9
/w customgame !pub name - for custom games
- 3. If separating like this is not possible, give back !pub to 6.9 and make 2 ladders for 2 games. Make exception in database to split 2 maps into 2 public ladders.
- 4. If all above is not possible make !pub to be informative and give to both maps !pubSomething
/w la-dota !pub name
You whisper to la-dota: !pub name
la-dota whispers: To host Dota6.9 map use /w la-dota !pubc name | To host Dota7.0 map use /w la-dota !pubn name To repeat again, favoritism of Dota7 without reason is damaging Dota6.9 in the long run, and Dota6.9 is much more popular with 70% of player base and need to be primary and default map, if not default, then give equality, no advantage should be given to Dota7.
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Regarding the map, I never played the new one (lack of time for dota) so I can't make a valid comparison between new and old map - but progress is always good. If I was still a player I would probably be delighted to get some new content and some updates. The community should keep up with changes mr. Dracolich makes and stay updated as much as possible, and this was always my opinion.
The person who never played the game shared his opinion based on lack of his time for dota and talks about progress and what is good or bad. Admin Jimmy left administration because of the new map, he was Administrator before change. And replacing Dota1 with Dota2 map is not improvement, how can it be improvement? There is already much better and world wide popular https://www.dota2.com/league/ .
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« on: December 24, 2020, 18:29 »
The reason to ban player for feeding with wards.
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« on: December 24, 2020, 07:12 »
Thank you. Yes 2 files e6 and e4. It is very shocking to see nowadays all dota maps are not less than 70mb or over 100mb 
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« on: December 24, 2020, 07:05 »
this is clearly one of @mordor911 peasants trying to get the last slot beside him in AP LAST
@MarvinJunior go look at the sun or something like that with peasants from your village since you have nothing smart to do. Dota7 is buggy game, nothing else to expect... Cool Vissage and mad Pastila  . OP hero, very fast and dangerous. Can you explain why right from the Inventory where are skills and attribute points everything is black? First minute.
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« on: December 24, 2020, 06:48 »
I think shared ladder will backfire anyway because 1 player can play 7.00 which is more or less balanced and bugs and op heroes get fixed and another can play lich on 6.9 who has over 50% win rate. But guess which 1 will have more psr?
Not only Lich, good carry with Roof in team is 2x stronger, Storm makes game harder to deward with his infinite damage and some other heroes can have over 50% win rate easily. After all it is good every hero can be countered and heroes like Lich and Storm are not on high level in the most of the games. This makes Dota6.9 balanced game. Dota7 players are in advantage to be higher ranked because the game is less balanced and Dota7 duration is usually much shorter compared to Dota6.9 where average playing time is above 45 minutes. This is not hard visually to be noticed on the Stats page. There are exceptions where Dota7 games are extremely long, probably not possible to finish for both teams, here is one good example - bladekino, 2 games in less than 4 hours and average game time 93 minutes? Longer game = less PSR compared to faster game player in this situation. 2 different games situation.
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« on: December 23, 2020, 21:34 »
Is it possible to disable map updates in client? Dota7 takes over 100mb and + 100 with every update so wanna free some memory? After map deletion from folder client goes again with update/map downloading.
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« on: December 23, 2020, 21:21 »
@TooShade congratulation, the 2nd best player on this server, absolutely deserved  AP LAST SLOT is almost as legendary as TheGame @Happy..
@MarvinJunior @Happy.. you 2 should congratulate to the best players on this server 
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« on: December 23, 2020, 04:09 »
Boy the irony. What to pinpoint first, the fact that you're misusing the term "Racism" the whole time, or the fact that you claim you're pursuing equality while trying to shut down 7.00 entirely?
whats the whole point of this fucking thread actually i dont get it? why you trying to shut down the v7 completely? why not let the people play that map and you play the one you prefer, its simple as that, its like trying to tell someone that sells fastfood, dont sell hotdogs sell only pizza cuz its prefered by the majority? ?
are you actually retarded or what?? mordor911
Nexxus did you read anything in this topic or Happy.. and MarvinJunior made your post for you? My posts are clear enough. Why is separating 2 games with 2 ladders shutting down v7 completely? Or why you do not support idea to have informative !pub command and both maps with !pubSomething? cen yesterday Dota6.9 got almost 70% of games. It is more than obvious to see this number is increasing every day for Dota6.9 and Dota7 aka Dota2 game popularity drops. Make Dota6.9 map default again with !pub command, see my proofs/daily statistics.
Gaming experience has been ruined to 70% players 2 weeks ago with switching command and here are few ideas how to fix current situation and to improve gaming experience to 70% players:
- Just switch map again, Dota6.9 as default map with !pub command and Dota7 with !pubSomething
- Separate 2 leagues with 2 ladders for new season, with separated commands and with separated custom games
/w lagabuse !pub name - for Dota6.9
/w la-dota !pub name - for Dota7
or vice versa, /w lagabuse was used in past for original Dota and should be given to Dota6.9
/w customgame !pub name - for custom games
- If separating like this is not possible, give back !pub to 6.9 and make 2 ladders for 2 games. Make exception in database to split 2 maps into 2 public ladders.
- If all above is not possible make !pub to be informative and give to both maps !pubSomething
/w la-dota !pub name
You whisper to la-dota: !pub name
la-dota whispers: To host Dota6.9 map use /w la-dota !pubc name | To host Dota7.0 map use /w la-dota !pubn name To repeat again, favoritism of Dota7 without reason is damaging Dota6.9 in the long run, and Dota6.9 is much more popular with 70% of player base and need to be primary and default map, if not default, then give equality, no advantage should be given to Dota7.
Correct me if Im wrong, but isn't the purpose of this topic to keep v6 alive?
Im counting myself as the one, who would have left dota all together (after 15+ years of playing) if v6 is gone...simply didnt fall in love with v7.
Thank you for not leaving dota. Yes the purpose of this topic is to keep Dota6.9 alive and to make it be at least equal to Dota7.0. Why equal? Because the current situation is in favor to Dota7 and Dota7 lobbyists (the Lobbying group of people) wants to suppress or remove completely our Dota6.9 and every opinion or complain about current situation. Since my first post in this topic you can notice spam posts from The Lobbying group where they are trying to suppress every good opinion about Dota6.9, or statistics and ideas. There is no reason to overtake from Dota6.9 and grant !pub command to Dota7, see statistics where Dota6.9 have 65-70% of games played, from this logic there is no reason to give !pub to map which is not Dota1 related map and which have 30-35% games. Much better for both games to have informative command !pub with info how to create the game and !pub something for both games to create the game. Based on bot changes (!pub/!publ) it looks like that cen has no intention of dropping v6 all together, which I really appreciate as lots of ppl here. I wouldn't mind to pay v6 on non ladder, like custom map, but problem would be increased amount of leavers due to no autoban in those kind of games.
Unfortunately you are wrong about that, see this topic and what is previously announced: https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php/topic,197563.msg702594.html#msg702594After reading the discussions and player feedback here is what will be done for now:
1. 6.90a8 will be put back as default.
2. v7.00d1 will be available via !privobs and will count towards ladder.
Points:
- some of the bugs and imbalances mentioned tell me it is not quite the prime time for v7, we will wait for final release before putting it back as default.
- I expect v6 will have to be removed in the long term, depending on the game stats.
My expectations are from 70% Dota6.9 players after removing Dota6.9 map, minimum 50% from total number is going to leave this server and from 1000 Dota games per week, remaining games will drop to about 200 games per week. In the long run if Dota6.9 will stay, removing of !pub means slowly pushing away Dota1 aka Dota6.9 map and placing Dota7 aka Dota2 as replacement. Logic is very simple, player is trying to host the game and with !pub he is creating Dota7 and here comes confusion and he leave or wait on someone else to create. Another example, player wants to create remake, he goes with !pub instead of !publ and again Dota7 map is created. Other players already came to the game, so host need to !unhost. Entire process takes 30s to 1 minute because when you unhost you can not create instantly, but it takes another 15-20 seconds and players are gone, wasted time... This is great inspiration to stop playing that day and to play something else. If you read entire topic you will create entire picture of current situation. This slow process will have effect over time and players will leave, less players means less games, and all because administration and the Lobbying group who wants to remove Dota1. Dota7 can not be considered as Dota1 map because it is not. Playing map as custom game won't work, ladder and PSR are the reason why people play so hard to expect enough players to play. Leavers is another not so relevant problem since there is a small chance to start custom game. w/e way it works mate, Im afraid that PSR is motivation for some sort of players, but personally I dont rly care about it...the only thing I rly care about is good game (win or loose doenst matter)
Sort of disagree with a section of stats not counting as I play v6, I dont even have v7 map downloaded, and trying to balance games based on some sort of stats is better than no balance at all. At the minute we only have PSR based system. Maybe not necessarily shared ladder could have been an option, but thats not up to me...
Current idea with ladder is joke and makes entire league false. One group is playing 1st game, another is playing 2nd game and ladder is shared by people who are playing different games. Cool improvement is to share this ladder with GreenTD, LegionTD, twrpg, Unicorn Orpg, Pudge Wars, SurvivalChaos, GaiasORPG and DotA_LoD. After all this is all Dota1. Luckily all 4 moderators are Dota6.9 players, from admins ksv is 6.9 map player, no much info about others.
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« on: December 21, 2020, 22:53 »
RACISM LMAO, mordor911 you have officially lost it
I suggest you take some time off to recover, gl
Lost what? Your friend is racist and your group, the Lobbying group. Dota6.9 = Week1 + Week2 = 613 + 638 = 1251 games played Dota7.0 = Week1 + Week2 = 387 + 362 = 749 games played 500 games difference between 2 games played in the last 2 weeks is really small difference. 1000+ games per month... To not forgot advantage of !pub command. what is current situation can be explained with a single word - Racism.
hhahahhahahahhahah
GG
« Last Edit: Today at 17:05 by Happy.. »
ahahah
why so racist fairy?
Did you know that despite only making up 13% of total played games 7.00 commits 50% .......
I laughed at the racism part for solid 2 minutes, thanks for making my Monday morning that much bearable!
I laughed at the racism part for solid 10 minutes last night and at the racist Happy.. and his brain usage  Then I laughed another 15 minutes at the confirmation of how smart his brain is when he finally relized to understand how smart he is (he borrows brain from someone since he is uncapable to use his own). Without luke's help, his racistic post would be available to everyone, not modified. @nikolagay only you understand yourself. Go back to school and educate yourself. My logic was about unfinished, still ongoing games, obviously.
Calculation depends on when screenshots are caught. Usually early morning/late night.
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« on: December 20, 2020, 23:21 »
Dota6.9 = Week1 + Week2 = 613 + 638 = 1251 games played Dota7.0 = Week1 + Week2 = 387 + 362 = 749 games played I think you are omitting unfinished Dota 7.XX games on purpose, to change the outcome of this investigation. Calculating only finished games, which amount is showing to us less than half of real picture, will of course bring you desired results.
If we consider those unfinished games, we will see that people are still playing way more games than 362 and 387. They are still playing.
That means those 7.XX games are way more interesting and enjoyable to play, compared to 6.9X games.
This is done after my first calculations and this is not coincidence. Check Day4 results and fake accounts leavers https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php/topic,198483.msg705190.html#msg705190Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games Logic is if group of few players wants to join the game only to leave and to increase total number of the games for that map, no logic to calculate since it does not give/remove PSR. If 20 of you organize to leave everyone with 1 or 2 accounts, the number of total games for Dota7 can go to 2-5x more than real result without draws. Hello guys!
Many of you asked my personal opinion about dota version. Not sure if my word will be heard but still...
Idea is to have BOTH versions on the server (if possible). Some people like 6.90, some people like 7.00 and so on. I don't want to argue about what version is better, this is a matter of taste. I'm not sure if ladder should be separated for different versions since they are not equal, so this is up to developers.
P. S.
On behalf of community i want to say "Thank you!" to all people who develop and maintain good old game. Many of us played it since childhood. My way started in 2004 from LAN DOTA games. Now I'm 28 and i'm really happy that i still can play it on this server.
Take care guys!
Andrii
Andrii you missed my posts and my point. Administration could have done it without need to favorise any map, this is why this topic and discussion is open. Next year will be less Dota6.9 games not because presence of Dota7 aka Dota2 and not because 30% of players are playing Dota7, but because administration replaced map which the majority of players play. This advantage comes with idea to do damage to Dota1 aka Dota6.9 and it will be harder to make a game in every point of view. This year average time to create game is not less than 10-15 minutes, in the same time next year it will be 25-30 minutes. Part of players think 6.9 is unavailable to host, or they wait 10-20 minutes in lobby and close WC3 game. This could be fixed with this logic /w la-dota !pub name
You whisper to la-dota: !pub name
la-dota whispers: To host Dota6.9 map use /w la-dota !pubc name | To host Dota7.0 map use /w la-dota !pubn name Dota6.9 and Dota7 are not the same game and by this logic, it is logical to add LegionTD, twrpg, GaiasORPG and other maps to the same ladder. No logic to fight for #1 on the ladder if you and your rivals are not playing the same game. This is why separated leagues and separated ladder will make this game more competitive and popular. Now which league and which map will player pick, that is a matter of taste and free will. The Lobbying group had clear intention to remove Dota6.9 map from the ladder and you are neutral about that. In 6 months - 1 year my posts will show how administration reduced the number of total games and players who play Dota6.9, old players. This is core idea why Dota7 is default map. Nowadays are more games daily than in last 2-3 years. Idea is to have at least equality, what is current situation can be explained with a single word - Racism.
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« on: December 20, 2020, 00:36 »
Week2: Total games = 638+362 = 1000
Dota6.9 = Day1+Day2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7+to1000 = 99 +109+ 59 + 79 + 99 + 86 + 101 + 6 = 638 map6.9 games finished
Dota7.0 = Day1+Day2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7+to1000 = 45 + 71 + 31 + 41 + 51 + 38 + 78 + 7 = 362 map7.0 games finished
Reminder Week1 results:
Dota6.9 = 613 games finished
Dota7.0 = 387 games finished
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