Author Topic: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_  (Read 18957 times)

Offline RetajMiroGavran

  • Junior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 25
  • Karma: +1/-1
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #75 on: October 30, 2010, 20:17 »
gl w/ that against oponents who have iq higer than 40
i dont say riki will own, just saying how to play with him if enemy has gem/dust/eye/skill
for owning there must be good heroes with you and good players :D
5 sec blink is rikis best skill, combined with smoke. u can blink in or out the fight fast

Offline vaikiss

  • MonsterKill Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4057
  • Karma: +224/-658
  • Imbalanced Gaming 4 Life
  • Awards Rubick Tournament Winner Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] 1v1 Windrunner Tour Winner [RARE] 1v1 AR Tour Winner [RARE] 5v5 Night Cup Winner [EPIC] 1v1 Nevermore Tour Winner [RARE] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Troll Madness Winner [UNIQUE] Footman Tour Winner Award [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • QuakeLive-Best Fps EVAH!
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2010, 02:03 »
combined with couple nukes and riki's low hp   its usefull on dieing also

God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals

Offline CheerLeader

  • Newbie Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2010, 08:31 »
With Rikimaru u can really eassily farm and get fast lvl..

So lets pick all rikimaru..
:D
I love Sparta.

Offline RetajMiroGavran

  • Junior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 25
  • Karma: +1/-1
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2010, 02:25 »
combined with couple nukes and riki's low hp   its usefull on dieing also
what if you have in your team omni/roof/silencer/trax(silence)/krobe(silence)/...

Offline vaikiss

  • MonsterKill Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4057
  • Karma: +224/-658
  • Imbalanced Gaming 4 Life
  • Awards Rubick Tournament Winner Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] 1v1 Windrunner Tour Winner [RARE] 1v1 AR Tour Winner [RARE] 5v5 Night Cup Winner [EPIC] 1v1 Nevermore Tour Winner [RARE] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Troll Madness Winner [UNIQUE] Footman Tour Winner Award [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • QuakeLive-Best Fps EVAH!
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2010, 02:27 »
first of all riki is crap at low lvl and fragile even at mid game  so if u can't handle lane (vs proper oponents) u won't be able to either get a kill also   even if u will ur team will be dead during that time   go watch some pro replays ul never c riki used

God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals

Offline Domagoj

  • Pro Member
  • *
  • Posts: 262
  • Karma: +44/-20
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2010, 11:59 »
first of all riki is crap at low lvl and fragile even at mid game  so if u can't handle lane (vs proper oponents) u won't be able to either get a kill also   even if u will ur team will be dead during that time   go watch some pro replays ul never c riki used

So i guess youre one of those "pros" that think half the heroes in dota suck and shouldnt exist...

Offline Shadow

  • Pro Member
  • *
  • Posts: 308
  • Country: sk
  • Karma: +31/-16
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2010, 12:26 »
Riki is a hero, that doesnt even need a guide.

Offline CHEAT

  • Advanced Member
  • *
  • Posts: 172
  • Karma: +9/-18
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2010, 15:01 »
combined with couple nukes and riki's low hp   its usefull on dieing also
what if you have in your team omni/roof/silencer/trax(silence)/krobe(silence)/...

with omni, roofteller, silencer, krobles and riki in your team who are you going to beat? retarded noobs in pub game? yes. pro players that communite through mics/etc? no.
thats like 4supports + riki as carry, unless you make battleomniknight with roofteller radi+cleaver, krobelus buriza mkb and silencer ummm. bfly hot skadi tanker?? HELL NO
« Last Edit: November 01, 2010, 15:03 by CHEAT »

Offline RetajMiroGavran

  • Junior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 25
  • Karma: +1/-1
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #83 on: November 01, 2010, 15:05 »
combined with couple nukes and riki's low hp   its usefull on dieing also
what if you have in your team omni/roof/silencer/trax(silence)/krobe(silence)/...

with omni, roofteller, silencer, krobles and riki in your team who are you going to beat? retarded noobs in pub game? yes. pro players that communite through mics/etc? no.
thats like 4supports + riki as carry, unless you make battleomniknight with roofteller radi+cleaver, krobelus buriza mkb and silencer ummm. bfly hot skadi tanker?? HELL NO
i said if you have some of them in your team
there are 5 heroes that i wrote and in end ..., so with riki would be 6 and with ... >6  ;D


Offline CHEAT

  • Advanced Member
  • *
  • Posts: 172
  • Karma: +9/-18
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #84 on: November 01, 2010, 15:42 »
well riki is kinda useless in serious matches just like gondar. why? too fucking weak invisibility wont save your ass ok.
mkb and smoke is useless for autoattack dps hero

but i agree u get 20:0 easily in pub games with riki, gondar clinkz etc.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2010, 15:46 by CHEAT »

Offline vaikiss

  • MonsterKill Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4057
  • Karma: +224/-658
  • Imbalanced Gaming 4 Life
  • Awards Rubick Tournament Winner Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] 1v1 Windrunner Tour Winner [RARE] 1v1 AR Tour Winner [RARE] 5v5 Night Cup Winner [EPIC] 1v1 Nevermore Tour Winner [RARE] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Troll Madness Winner [UNIQUE] Footman Tour Winner Award [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • QuakeLive-Best Fps EVAH!
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #85 on: November 01, 2010, 18:52 »
gondar is fine  after his last boost   but riki is nothing 

God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals

Offline [kosarkas]

  • WickedSick Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1507
  • Karma: +112/-137
  • Ooohhh...You know I don't give a fuck!!!
  • Awards Submitted more than 15 useful myths [EPIC]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #86 on: November 02, 2010, 18:58 »
Gondar + Slardar = Riki go bye-bye... no need for gem!(If a retard isn't playing gondar or slardar)...

And i quote again:
gl w/ that against oponents who have iq higer than 40

Offline NEGERTIVS

  • Retired Moderator
  • WickedSick Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1146
  • Karma: +91/-67
  • podlac lukavi
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #87 on: November 27, 2010, 13:48 »
Well wow.

1) Don't play riki as a solo. He has absolutely zero lanecontrol, no means to harass, and only a semi-decent escape skill. any DECENT lane with at least one stun or slow will absolutely destroy him (and just think about what a lane like CM - slayer will do to him). And other solo heros who CAN solo will also completely outlane him, leaving him underlevelled and underfarmed and thus making riki useless for the rest of the game.

Riki should be laned with a babysitter. Personally I would prefer offensive babysitters like Lich or CM who have spells that riki can use to blinkstrike and land hits (Lich's frost nova, CM's nova, bite).

2) Lvl1 blinkstrike OR smokescreen should always be taken in order to escape or set up an early gank. Don't get backstab, it does damage based on your agility and is rather useless as an early game means to deal damage. Late-game your agility rises, so backstab should be gotten mid- to lategame. Don't be the idiot who feeds first blood because you take backstab for ~10 extra damage instead of an escape skill (by the way, lvl1 blinkstrike already deals 30 extra damage).

3) By shield I presume you mean poor man's shield? Take one instead, they don't stack very well and two would take up a space you need for other items.

4) Your extention items are fine. Diffusal is a great item on riki. But you forgot the manta. Don't rush a butterfly after your diffusal, riki is a poor farmer and you wont pull it off unless you are being fed heavily. Farming up that eaglehorn will take some time and is more risky for you and your team. Manta has an easier build-up and great synergy with diffusal. Plus it gives riki the ability to mindfuck even more and dodge spells.

An okay guide for -em games I guess.. If you're looking for a good source try http://www.playdota.com/guides/complete-guide-to-rikimaru this guide.

Offline CHEAT

  • Advanced Member
  • *
  • Posts: 172
  • Karma: +9/-18
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #88 on: November 27, 2010, 17:00 »
^ tl;dr

riki sux in competitive games because he doesnt have any good nukes, damaging skills. he has to get good agi carry items to gain power. your enemies will buy sentry wards, dust, gem even in early game. riki is bad pick for serious gaming, its just a fact.

Offline joyjoy

  • Movie Nerd
  • MonsterKill Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2734
  • Karma: +147/-36
  • Enjoyjoy your life
  • Awards Winner of 1 Signature of the Week Contest [COMMON] Winner of 1 Photoshop Challenge Contest [COMMON] GFX staff member [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • AE arts by joyjoy
    • Awards
Re: Stealth Assassin guide - by _Dead_Shoot_
« Reply #89 on: November 27, 2010, 17:10 »
^ tl;dr

riki sux in competitive games because he doesnt have any good nukes, damaging skills. he has to get good agi carry items to gain power. your enemies will buy sentry wards, dust, gem even in early game. riki is bad pick for serious gaming, its just a fact.
said that already on page 2 or 3 here but yeah riki sux in serious games bu heres not competitive matches not many ppl counter him but I do - Slardar, bounty muhahaha  ;D die you blue freak ;D