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!mindeny
« on: July 25, 2011, 09:20 »
Hello!

 My idea is as simple as this: Working like !min (selecting with PSR) a command that autokicks players from DotA games with lesser average deny rate than the set one. This is an easy way to filter starters from a game intended to players with the least knowledge of how to deny. I think deny rate is a pretty decent stat that can easily filter out starter players who you dont want to see in your advanced games.

Think i dont need to explain further, thanks in advance for your time !!

Another similar idea could be !minkd, which selects from Kill/Death rate, for example would be also a pretty decent move to make selecting from players easier.

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 14:03 »
haha i will say this 1000 time i dont care about k/d/a score its about psr :D but about the !min deny thing its kinda important but u can just sd them and kick them if u want

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 14:12 »
true, but its boring at the 100th game to sd 1 by 1. and PSR is just as accurate as KD rate, almost means nothing.

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 14:14 »
true, but its boring at the 100th game to sd 1 by 1. and PSR is just as accurate as KD rate, almost means nothing.

i dont have a problem about this idea at all and its great try pm myubernick about ur idea

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 14:44 »
So lets say, a dude just came here and started playing dota. First 200 games he didnt deny, after that he denies like a boss but still has the 0.51 deny each game, but he might actually deny more than you? this isnt accurate.
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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 14:51 »
haha i will say this 1000 time i dont care about k/d/a score its about psr :D but about the !min deny thing its kinda important but u can just sd them and kick them if u want

what a noob ..... thats why the half of the toplist are retarded nooobs , who they got +psr because of imba team or lucky game ....

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 14:54 »
yes, they had like 500 luck games, makes sense
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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 15:03 »
So lets say, a dude just came here and started playing dota. First 200 games he didnt deny, after that he denies like a boss but still has the 0.51 deny each game, but he might actually deny more than you? this isnt accurate.

Okay, but 99% of the time it will be accurate. So the 1% will get kicked for the wrong reason, they just find another game.

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 15:14 »
It's not a bad idea.

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2011, 16:00 »
So lets say, a dude just came here and started playing dota. First 200 games he didnt deny, after that he denies like a boss but still has the 0.51 deny each game, but he might actually deny more than you? this isnt accurate.

agree not accurate and it wont be so low % of these ppl and take in fact as well that some sort of heroes need last hit and deny more than others, depands on their role, so some very good ganker  player who always play gankers that roam map and hide to strike will have so little denies at all so at supports even they should have to deny most but its hard for them then for carries and there are not so few ppl who plays like that including me, I can last hit and deny at a many heros but in a lot of games I got not so may chances for it cause of playng those heroes... theres a lot of factor even I agree that denies say more that PSR or K/D but its not so accurate cause of these

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2011, 16:04 »
Ye, but mate, im talking about difference between 0.0 and 4.0 deny rate. Any decent ganker has 4.0 deny, any good player has 4.0 deny. My meaning is not to use it to set to like 9-10 deny rate, of course not all the good players have that(however most got it). I didnt mean it to show a difference like i got 5.6 deny rate and u only got 5.3 so im better, i mean it to help filtering the totally zero deny players. Not hatin' just dont come to a "nonoob" game with 4 agi picks, 3 of which starts off with boots, 2 ow which dont buy any regen. thats not the nonoob level.
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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2011, 16:12 »
if it will be just this small scale its ok and good idea, but as always its in some way abusable as many suggested good selective commands...

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2011, 16:19 »
Well, abusing can be avoided by the way of implementation, for example:

Only three values, like: !mindeny0 - no deny requirance(default)
                                     !mindeny1 - 1.0 deny rate req.
                                     !mindeny4 - 4.0 deny rate req.

This way there wont be silly usages of this feature.

Also, does anyone know the reason why is the dota ladder map russian? There arent even russians playing, makes no sense to me.

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2011, 16:31 »
Also, does anyone know the reason why is the dota ladder map russian? There arent even russians playing, makes no sense to me.
I'm not sure if I understand you well. If you play DotA on pd.eu you have map in Russian? If this is your problem than you have RS map in your computer.
Download map from here:
http://www.getdota.com/
There you can choose from many language versions.

If you just asking why they made RS version, there is simply answer:
Russians play DotA. I've met many of RS players here and I bet there are many RS players who play elsewhere :)

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Re: !mindeny
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2011, 16:47 »
sooo when you play a dota ladder map its english for you? hm

lololololololol, i logged in to eurobattle with a fresh wc3 not hacving dota, so i dl-ed the RU version for some reason ingame :O:O:O now its english!
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