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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2011, 13:11 »
Warkeys etc are not hack or illegal because it is W3 function. You check a box in settings and than change hotkeys.

Mana bars aren't hack because it shows you accessible info. You can select enemy so you will see his mana, this just saves you 1 click. It is nearly the same as healt bar.

If something shows your AS, MS or regeneration it isn't hack. These info are accessible for you. You just need to type -ms or do some maths. This just saves you some time.

So my opinion is that anything that shows you accessible informations it is not hack.

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2011, 14:24 »
My opinion : no hack withouth any doubts

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2011, 14:31 »
Anything that gives you advantage (big advantage) vs your enemies is considered as hack.

I personnaly consider all this things as hack: dota keys, warkeys, mana bars, and cause of that, ME PERSONALLY consider this thing as hack too.
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But enemies can also use that things and then there is no advantage.
ok so lets all use mh and then there is no advantage

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2011, 14:40 »
Warkeys etc are not hack or illegal because it is W3 function. You check a box in settings and than change hotkeys.

Mana bars aren't hack because it shows you accessible info. You can select enemy so you will see his mana, this just saves you 1 click. It is nearly the same as healt bar.

If something shows your AS, MS or regeneration it isn't hack. These info are accessible for you. You just need to type -ms or do some maths. This just saves you some time.

So my opinion is that anything that shows you accessible informations it is not hack.

Ye, and MH is also not hack, you can click anywhere on the map on enemy hero and you can see how much hp he have and you can gank him whenever u want.

I mean lol.
when we were fighting againt the biggest power hunger i ever met, MrNiceGuy. Now i see him in you, no, you became way worse than him. He at least had some heart, he cared about ppl who were with him all the time.

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2011, 15:20 »
Warkeys etc are not hack or illegal because it is W3 function. You check a box in settings and than change hotkeys.

Mana bars aren't hack because it shows you accessible info. You can select enemy so you will see his mana, this just saves you 1 click. It is nearly the same as healt bar.

If something shows your AS, MS or regeneration it isn't hack. These info are accessible for you. You just need to type -ms or do some maths. This just saves you some time.

So my opinion is that anything that shows you accessible informations it is not hack.

Ye, and MH is also not hack, you can click anywhere on the map on enemy hero and you can see how much hp he have and you can gank him whenever u want.

I mean lol.

Mng pls read my reply to you and tell me why would you call this hack? o.O

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2011, 15:24 »
Warkeys etc are not hack or illegal because it is W3 function. You check a box in settings and than change hotkeys.

Mana bars aren't hack because it shows you accessible info. You can select enemy so you will see his mana, this just saves you 1 click. It is nearly the same as healt bar.

If something shows your AS, MS or regeneration it isn't hack. These info are accessible for you. You just need to type -ms or do some maths. This just saves you some time.

So my opinion is that anything that shows you accessible informations it is not hack.

Ye, and MH is also not hack, you can click anywhere on the map on enemy hero and you can see how much hp he have and you can gank him whenever u want.

I mean lol.

Docta says: But enemies can also use that things and then there is no advantage.

So enemies can use MH and you can and then its not forbidden? xD

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2011, 15:30 »
Not that reply and I wasn't talking anout MH,coz we all now MH is hack,I mean,even it's name says so.I was talking about this:



They are not hacks imho.Dota keys,warkeys,all that is allowed on any dota tournaments.
Why would blizzard add a special option in wc3 for customkeys if it was "illegal"?? and if blizzard has no problem with it who else would forbid it?noone would forbid something that the creater of the game aproves.


And how can mana bar be hack?Than health bar should be hack also.

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2011, 16:00 »
Every 3rd party program is considered as a hack. Excluding warkeys which have been approved by vast majority of the dota community.

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2011, 16:18 »
Warkeys etc are not hack or illegal because it is W3 function. You check a box in settings and than change hotkeys.

Mana bars aren't hack because it shows you accessible info. You can select enemy so you will see his mana, this just saves you 1 click. It is nearly the same as healt bar.

If something shows your AS, MS or regeneration it isn't hack. These info are accessible for you. You just need to type -ms or do some maths. This just saves you some time.

So my opinion is that anything that shows you accessible informations it is not hack.

Ye, and MH is also not hack, you can click anywhere on the map on enemy hero and you can see how much hp he have and you can gank him whenever u want.

I mean lol.
I said it shows you accessible information. Hero who is in fog can't give you any info about himself because you can't see him so this info isn't accessible so no program (mana bars etc) can't help you get any info about him.

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2011, 16:29 »
I think it's very cool and that it shouldn't be considered as hack, because it's very useful but not quite helpful. I mean even if you know how much you regenerate per sec, how is that advantage?

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2011, 16:33 »
I think it's very cool and that it shouldn't be considered as hack, because it's very useful but not quite helpful. I mean even if you know how much you regenerate per sec, how is that advantage?
Maybe you can do some math - is better (quicker) to get to fountain and back or is better to wait some time in forest? As I said, this is not hack.

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2011, 16:35 »
Every 3rd party program is considered as a hack. Excluding warkeys which have been approved by vast majority of the dota community.

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This docta.

And btw I was sarcastic about that post docta as you can see its not your post. And as I said "for me personnaly anything that gives you advance in dota is hack".
when we were fighting againt the biggest power hunger i ever met, MrNiceGuy. Now i see him in you, no, you became way worse than him. He at least had some heart, he cared about ppl who were with him all the time.

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2011, 22:58 »
I know but,I don't think this is hack,coz I dont see really how is this adventage coz u know how many hp u regenerate per second.It is not such a big deal.

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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2011, 01:03 »
??

tell me why is not that implented into a dota map then?
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Re: Hack or not ?
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2011, 01:27 »
it's a hack cos it's a stripped dll from dreamdota injected into w3.

but i'll take it if it doesn't crash.