Balance lock

[BarbeWire]

We have a scoring system now, good, we can balance games in lobby according to it, very good, but what about stats abusing hosts (and friends), who just dont use the balance command? So maybe host can not start a public game, if its not at least 60 - 40 or more balanced?
In Div League this worked fine.

[Rocka]

so that means if you want to play with your 4 best friends, and you all happen to be pro, you can never play a game together?
bad idea, balance isn't a command that has to be done, for a fair game it is better to use this command.

[yaphets_]

We have a scoring system now, good, we can balance games in lobby according to it, very good, but what about stats abusing hosts (and friends), who just dont use the balance command? So maybe host can not start a public game, if its not at least 60 - 40 or more balanced?
In Div League this worked fine.

I amm 100% agree with you some host are abusing their powers by !lock command and then !balance and when we ask him why you make balance if you locked,He will say "friends"...i played a game he locked 4 ppls that  have higher PSr and then balance it and start it immediatly..... in that way everybody will abuse it to get more PSR.

[kurcem_ucelo]

u 2 guys have to troll on every thread, so sad..
if u want to play a game vs stackers make sure u have a stacked team as well if u don't want just leave if u think u can't handle them, so simple i dont see any problems here..

[End]

u 2 guys have to troll on every thread, so sad..
if u want to play a game vs stackers make sure u have a stacked team as well if u don't want just leave if u think u can't handle them, so simple i dont see any problems here..

Well said. If host doesn't wanna balance the game and you don't wanna play unbalanced, all you have to do is leave, it's simple as that.

[BarbeWire]

Guyz thats about pub games! So if u want to play with 4 or more friends, go private... same when u know ppl to build stacked team. But what I'm talkn about, are simple public games for ppl like me, who just want to play their 2 or 3 good night games, if they get time for it.
And btw, maybe its posible to do such a low, high and pro game system, depending on how many psr you got, you cn join only games (public games!) acording to your score. Thats a idea from div league too and in my opinion, it is the next logical step in the evolution of the hole score thing. Otherwise it would be just a useless number...

[VisualBasic]

Hey hey, I think this topic is a fail and read what I'm going to say before judging to me. As I know, if you play against a team which have a 80% to win, you will lose low score and if you win you will win much more.

If all the games should be 50-50, what would be the point of PSR system. The problem would be that people would lose/win the same amount of points per person. I mean, the higher PSR player would win 1/-1 points /for example, and the lowest maybe it would be 17/-16. Then... what's the point of the percentage knowledge and the score system if you wanna set !autobalanced games?

Also, I want to add that this is a free bot, so everyone can play with his/her friend/s and you can't just say ("Go play private") because if we are 5 we must look for other 5 team. And that's not the point of this comunity.

[sweetiniesta]

I leave those 80/20 games and np. Now u have 10 sec (5 before) to check !rs ad !r, u can easy leave before game start.

[Natura Sonoris]

If you can see that most of top 100 players play together in team ,so their chanse of winning is very high. And with your suggestion they wont be able to play a game .

Also host is owner of the game , he created it ,so he choses how he wants to play it, either balanced or stacked.
If you dont want to play it leave lobby and find other one or create your own game,and you have enough time to leave lobby (10 seconds)  when host starts a game without balance.

[opa_bato[o.0]]

the step between the counting is actually 0.5 sec, so you actually have 5 sec

[yaphets_]

If you can see that most of top 100 players play together in team ,so their chanse of winning is very high. And with your suggestion they wont be able to play a game .

Also host is owner of the game , he created it ,so he choses how he wants to play it, either balanced or stacked.
If you dont want to play it leave lobby and find other one or create your own game,and you have enough time to leave lobby (10 seconds)  when host starts a game without balance.

i agree with you but now i can create a game when players joins i type!rall see who's higher point and lock them then balance and i say them friends....and ofc in the end i get free wins :/ i think it's wrong...

[Astaroth]

If you can see that most of top 100 players play together in team ,so their chanse of winning is very high. And with your suggestion they wont be able to play a game .

Also host is owner of the game , he created it ,so he choses how he wants to play it, either balanced or stacked.
If you dont want to play it leave lobby and find other one or create your own game,and you have enough time to leave lobby (10 seconds)  when host starts a game without balance.

i agree with you but now i can create a game when players joins i type!rall see who's higher point and lock them then balance and i say them friends....and ofc in the end i get free wins :/ i think it's wrong...

As there was already said - you can leave those games.
The best way is hosting your own games or private games but I know it ain't easy to find 10 players you know to play priv game with you.
But before the !balance command it was the same - host swapped good players to his team and noobs to other one. And there was only 1 difference - there was no command to show probability or chance to win.

[DuffMan]

We have a scoring system now, good, we can balance games in lobby according to it, very good, but what about stats abusing hosts (and friends), who just dont use the balance command? So maybe host can not start a public game, if its not at least 60 - 40 or more balanced?
In Div League this worked fine.

Come on. Dont tell us you're one of theese "PRS is everything" person. Stackers has always been here and imho in 80% its normal - they are not "stacking" coz they just wanna play with friends. And your option is
1) to check everybodys !SD in your team - thats the most important thing if u wanna have game balanced
2) to say host who u consider "noob/multipple acc/leaver" etc. and his option is to do so.
3) if this doesnt work - leave the game and find better host, or !pub your own game

One of my best and very balanced game for this week god 90%/10% and noone cares.
Did u noticed? People who are most experienced do not use !rs !rall etc. they use the oldschool !sd and then if host is really stacker who let newbies in the other team they leave the game.