Author Topic: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???  (Read 5579 times)

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2011, 19:53 »
People you force yourself in order to misunderstand me.

I do not say "a suspicious user can leave without any ban"

I say that "if it is proved that someone has a MH the leavers should be unbanned"

If you leave every game because of MH, you will be banned everytime and if your suspicion is incorrect you wont be unbanned. So you basically cant play anymore games. So it will be still risky to leave a game. But it will also be fair and not annoying.

And if really everyone is right with their suspicion there will be lots of incomplete games. But don't worry. Because people will not use MH because they can not enjoy cheating and get banned. So number of MHer will be significantly reduced.

Any comments?

If you made an unban request with the mh report link,which includes that the user is perma banned I would directly unban you because like you said 'we forgive people'.I' d give you another chance but now the rare error got you,it wont happen.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2011, 19:58 by totally_screwd »

nermiee

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2011, 19:53 »
OMG
Why the hell u left game ?
LOLZOR
Dude, u dont rly understand the things... LOL
Whatever, even if he mhed, that dont means that u can leave game lol...
U broke rule too.
Again, SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN GAME, now stop flaming forum PD.eu is best, i know, sometimes people get upset for morbid  things but lol, that doesnt means that u are the 1 guy who dont get "justice" or w/e u want...
Other people thinks that pd.eu is good thing, and u are ruining community, once ago before 4 months or smth like that, i got banned cuz i plugged out, but ok, lol, got banned, i broke rule, was my bad...
So.PLEASE STFU !
End this topic and delete it please, there's no such a thing that u can say to proof something to 12 y old kid like this guy....

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2011, 20:01 »
People you force yourself in order to misunderstand me.

I do not say "a suspicious user can leave without any ban"

I say that "if it is proved that someone has a MH the leavers should be unbanned"

If you leave every game because of MH, you will be banned everytime and if your suspicion is incorrect you wont be unbanned. So you basically cant play anymore games. So it will be still risky to leave a game. But it will also be fair and not annoying.

And if really everyone is right with their suspicion there will be lots of incomplete games. But don't worry. Because people will not use MH because they can not enjoy cheating and get banned. So number of MHer will be significantly reduced.

Any comments?

I would completely agree with you if this was some other situation. But you must be aware that this is dota, and it is largely played by a pretty immature audience to say the least (which is obvious if you just look at some of the comments in this thread), and i dont doubt a  little bit that at least 90% of those OMG MH players are completely sure that the other guy/team is cheating, unaware of the existence of beetles, wards, traps, owls etc. So introducing this rule could also mean a big increase in leaving due to OMG MH claims. And since the punishment for leaving is just a few days, and there are so many multi-accs here, it could make things worse.

EDIT: Oh, and this one of yours is an isolated case. As one of the mods above said, if the replay wasnt bugged, you would probably get an unban.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2011, 20:02 by Domagoj »

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2011, 20:26 »
People you force yourself in order to misunderstand me.

I do not say "a suspicious user can leave without any ban"

I say that "if it is proved that someone has a MH the leavers should be unbanned"

If you leave every game because of MH, you will be banned everytime and if your suspicion is incorrect you wont be unbanned. So you basically cant play anymore games. So it will be still risky to leave a game. But it will also be fair and not annoying.

And if really everyone is right with their suspicion there will be lots of incomplete games. But don't worry. Because people will not use MH because they can not enjoy cheating and get banned. So number of MHer will be significantly reduced.

Any comments?

I would completely agree with you if this was some other situation. But you must be aware that this is dota, and it is largely played by a pretty immature audience to say the least (which is obvious if you just look at some of the comments in this thread), and i dont doubt a  little bit that at least 90% of those OMG MH players are completely sure that the other guy/team is cheating, unaware of the existence of beetles, wards, traps, owls etc. So introducing this rule could also mean a big increase in leaving due to OMG MH claims. And since the punishment for leaving is just a few days, and there are so many multi-accs here, it could make things worse.

EDIT: Oh, and this one of yours is an isolated case. As one of the mods above said, if the replay wasnt bugged, you would probably get an unban.

we won't allow players leave the games when they think someone is using maphack,it would make everythin worse like domagoj said.

But like I wrote above,if you showed me the maphack report link with the answer 'xxx banned permanenlty for maphack' i would forgive you for once,believe me %90 of mods would unban
« Last Edit: February 03, 2011, 21:11 by totally_screwd »

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2011, 20:51 »
I think that is enough discussion here. (Kids already started to make noise)

I understood what you said. I defend what I said before. But it is my personal idea. Moderators are free to do anything. But I don't like the word "forgive". I am not begging any forgiveness. If something is to be done, it should be done with the rules. If there is something wrong with the rules, it should be fixed. Otherwise playdota has no difference than any other bot. Thanks for the answers.

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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2011, 22:00 »
I think that is enough discussion here. (Kids already started to make noise)

I understood what you said. I defend what I said before. But it is my personal idea. Moderators are free to do anything. But I don't like the word "forgive". I am not begging any forgiveness. If something is to be done, it should be done with the rules. If there is something wrong with the rules, it should be fixed. Otherwise playdota has no difference than any other bot. Thanks for the answers.

Oh my dear god... bout rules things, u broke rule, he broke rule ih he mhed... gg no re
Deffending ur kid mentality by telling other are kids... are.... ......... no words. but gg no re, cya in hell.

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2011, 11:47 »
How can you be so sure that the person uses MH if you don't have MH too? What if they have wards in unusual locations and you leave for MH? How can you see their wards Mr. Fair Player?

I quit dota :<

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2011, 11:48 »
How can you be so sure that the person uses MH if you don't have MH too? What if they have wards in unusual locations and you leave for MH? How can you see their wards Mr. Fair Player?

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2011, 12:06 »
How can you be so sure that the person uses MH if you don't have MH too? What if they have wards in unusual locations and you leave for MH? How can you see their wards Mr. Fair Player?

+1 for this .

Close this topic it is useless atm.
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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2011, 18:35 »
it isnt useless , mby a clever clever-guy give us a mega clever post and we learn from him :))

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2011, 20:37 »
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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2011, 23:13 »
How can you be so sure that the person uses MH if you don't have MH too? What if they have wards in unusual locations and you leave for MH? How can you see their wards Mr. Fair Player?

1. We asked if they have wards and they could not answer.
2. The guy whispered that he has MH.

It was more than enough for me. 1000 times I said, you still can not understand:

I do not mean every OMG MH should leave the game. But if someone leaves and MH is proved he should be unbanned.

This topic should be closed. It is too much for ultra-mega clever kids.

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2011, 23:15 »
Nah, dont close it, we love to see ur flaming :D blaming etc :D :$

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2011, 23:20 »
Nah, dont close it, we love to see ur flaming :D blaming etc :D :$

Sorry for that.He should have written (age +12) in the title.

By the way it is time to sleep. Your mamma will flame blame etc.

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Re: Game replay link does not work. Bug or ???
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2011, 23:22 »
Please close this topic or delete any unnecessary posts. I have written my MH report to one of the guys however he did not answer yet.