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Rating system, i need help from the big admin
« on: January 09, 2011, 15:01 »
Hi, i need help.

I am interested in DotA rating systems for a long time.
When i was working on ladder with ss-extasy for ODL i didn't know much. 6 months ago i suggested some things to Sir-Rogers on RGC but it was too complex and i still had a lot to learn.

My ideas are based on:

-Intelligence quotient (IQ)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient

-TrueSkill™ Ranking System
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/trueskill/

-Elo rating system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system


I heard you guys are developing new rating systems for new season on PD.EU so i am NOT suggesting you use this. I just need your help and it can maybe prove to be good in the end.
I am doing this for fun and science.

Problem is i need stats. My replays are not good enough. Building crawlers to collect data from web sites is a little messy and is inaccurate.

If anyone is willing to share a piece of database snapshot from old seasons or something like that please contact me.

If request is inappropriate than i am sorry, you can delete this thread.

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Re: Rating system, i need help from the big admin
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 20:40 »
You can easily create a DB based on the stats page (though it may take some time to generate).
And I have some doubts that you will get the previous/current PD season information (except by what I said above).

And yes, the new ranking system is based on Elo ratings. I think you can find some information, if you search the forum.

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Re: Rating system, i need help from the big admin
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 21:18 »
There is not much info except that its going to be relative system like ELO.
Thats ok. I belive MyUberNick will do a great job.

Is he the one i should contact about the databases?

And crawling a html from "stats.playdota.eu" is hard and there are relatively lots of mistakes.
nothing is ID-ed so its hard to parse.


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Re: Rating system, i need help from the big admin
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 23:35 »
There is not much info except that its going to be relative system like ELO.
I think that more info is released to the public. But maybe it is forgotten, cause it was like 3-4 months ago when the idea and completion of the ELO rating was at hand.

Is he the one i should contact about the databases?
Yes, but I don't think that you'll have much luck. The only way to get the PD database is from the cool (sarcasm, I agree it's awfully made) stats page.

And crawling a html from "stats.playdota.eu" is hard and there are relatively lots of mistakes.
nothing is ID-ed so its hard to parse.
I have no problems parsing the bans (now I don't use it) and the admins pages. Although it was easier when the All bans and All admins were working. Now I have to check every page, but it is better for my memory (I don't have to load hundreds of megabytes at once to get all the bans).