DotA 2 or wc3 map DotA?

[fawkz]

More significant than graphics, the best important thing imo is the game engine, im talking about player movement, hit accuracy etc...

[vaikiss]

i think Dota2 will own :/

Better graphics..i vote for dota2

And you get it why it is made with better graphics and what does graphics bring?

When you get better graphics + popular game, you get sponsorships. You get "NVIDIA: The Way It's Meant to be Played™" and others stuff like Intel, AMD, etc. There are cups. Community gets bigger. Normal WC3 DotA got everything it needs. But problem with WC3 the game is old. You can run it via P3. How can WC3 sponsor 6xxx series GPU?

So much people switched to HoN. I know 10 people, my RL friends, who played DotA regularly but when game with better graphics came out and everything similar ( I blame HoN it is 100% rip of DotA), they just went for graphics. If you are into a graphics, you are just a fag anyway then.

I was before Unreal Tournament 2004 player. Why I'm mention this game? Read.
I played that game about 5 years, played division 1 TAM/TDM. Played nations cup for my country. Was in high end clans and I was so waiting for that UT3 to come out. But UT3 failed hard. They forced graphics only. There are more players nowday on UT2004 and first UT, then on the UT3. But UT3 did bring epic graphics and UT3 engine. They didn't care about us players, they forced graphics only and I just don't want this to see on DotA2. So people, don't go hype by that source engine of Valve, we need game play and that is why is WC3 so good still. Why people play StarCraft still. But Blizz is Blizz. They only did fail with  WoW. Damn, so big post. I dunno if anyone will read my fail english writing.

+1 for ut fail  oldschool ut > all the new shit with graphics same in quake for example  q3 > q4

and altho sc2 is barely can compete with old sc which was released 11 years ago

[joyjoy]

More significant than graphics, the best important thing imo is the game engine, im talking about player movement, hit accuracy etc...

thats right curious about engine of DotA2 - pseudorandom system calculation of spell FX, accuracy, collision of units and juking system its thing of wc3 enine so how remake this Icefrog to valve engine if even possible   

[Cobalton]

They resurrected Quake in so good way->  http://www.quakelive.com/

One of best moves I have seen so far in gaming.

[joyjoy]

i think Dota2 will own :/

Better graphics..i vote for dota2

And you get it why it is made with better graphics and what does graphics bring?

When you get better graphics + popular game, you get sponsorships. You get "NVIDIA: The Way It's Meant to be Played™" and others stuff like Intel, AMD, etc. There are cups. Community gets bigger. Normal WC3 DotA got everything it needs. But problem with WC3 the game is old. You can run it via P3. How can WC3 sponsor 6xxx series GPU?

So much people switched to HoN. I know 10 people, my RL friends, who played DotA regularly but when game with better graphics came out and everything similar ( I blame HoN it is 100% rip of DotA), they just went for graphics. If you are into a graphics, you are just a fag anyway then.

I was before Unreal Tournament 2004 player. Why I'm mention this game? Read.
I played that game about 5 years, played division 1 TAM/TDM. Played nations cup for my country. Was in high end clans and I was so waiting for that UT3 to come out. But UT3 failed hard. They forced graphics only. There are more players nowday on UT2004 and first UT, then on the UT3. But UT3 did bring epic graphics and UT3 engine. They didn't care about us players, they forced graphics only and I just don't want this to see on DotA2. So people, don't go hype by that source engine of Valve, we need game play and that is why is WC3 so good still. Why people play StarCraft still. But Blizz is Blizz. They only did fail with  WoW. Damn, so big post. I dunno if anyone will read my fail english writing.

+1 for ut fail  oldschool ut > all the new shit with graphics same in quake for example  q3 > q4

and altho sc2 is barely can compete with old sc which was released 11 years ago

I stay with you the next parts are shits....classics are awsome in gameplay and even graphic is not bad for old games now play still UT classic and Q3
+1 Cobalton 

[Domagoj]

i think Dota2 will own :/

Better graphics..i vote for dota2

And you get it why it is made with better graphics and what does graphics bring?

When you get better graphics + popular game, you get sponsorships. You get "NVIDIA: The Way It's Meant to be Played™" and others stuff like Intel, AMD, etc. There are cups. Community gets bigger. Normal WC3 DotA got everything it needs. But problem with WC3 the game is old. You can run it via P3. How can WC3 sponsor 6xxx series GPU?

So much people switched to HoN. I know 10 people, my RL friends, who played DotA regularly but when game with better graphics came out and everything similar ( I blame HoN it is 100% rip of DotA), they just went for graphics. If you are into a graphics, you are just a fag anyway then.

I was before Unreal Tournament 2004 player. Why I'm mention this game? Read.
I played that game about 5 years, played division 1 TAM/TDM. Played nations cup for my country. Was in high end clans and I was so waiting for that UT3 to come out. But UT3 failed hard. They forced graphics only. There are more players nowday on UT2004 and first UT, then on the UT3. But UT3 did bring epic graphics and UT3 engine. They didn't care about us players, they forced graphics only and I just don't want this to see on DotA2. So people, don't go hype by that source engine of Valve, we need game play and that is why is WC3 so good still. Why people play StarCraft still. But Blizz is Blizz. They only did fail with  WoW. Damn, so big post. I dunno if anyone will read my fail english writing.

+1 for ut fail  oldschool ut > all the new shit with graphics same in quake for example  q3 > q4

and altho sc2 is barely can compete with old sc which was released 11 years ago

Agree with the UT>UT3, but UT2004 is way better than both of these. And i dont know if you tried SC2, but it really is awesome online, much better than the old Stracraft. As for DotA 2, it is really stupid to say that old graphics is better than new graphics. I doubt IceFrog will introuce some graphics that will reduce visibility or sth. Furthermore, I believe that Dota 2 will have implemented bots, ban system, stats, its own servers and whatnot, and most importantly, its own engine. So i dont see how Dota 2 would fail over the w3 dota, and i dont know why any player that has the ability to play it on his computer should choose w3 Dota over Dota2.

[fawkz]

More significant than graphics, the best important thing imo is the game engine, im talking about player movement, hit accuracy etc...

thats right curious about engine of DotA2 - pseudorandom system calculation of spell FX, accuracy, collision of units and juking system its thing of wc3 enine so how remake this Icefrog to valve engine if even possible   

Do you think VALVE, a basically SHOOTER game company will be good enough to make this kind of game? I still have doubts...

[Cobalton]

fawkz is right 100% I also think that.

@Domagoj: Source engine = fps engine. DotA= RTS game. How it will work at end, we will see.

[Domagoj]

More significant than graphics, the best important thing imo is the game engine, im talking about player movement, hit accuracy etc...

thats right curious about engine of DotA2 - pseudorandom system calculation of spell FX, accuracy, collision of units and juking system its thing of wc3 enine so how remake this Icefrog to valve engine if even possible   

Do you think VALVE, a basically SHOOTER game company will be good enough to make this kind of game? I still have doubts...

Then again, look at Valve's games. Almost all games are great, if not perfect (Half-Life).

fawkz is right 100% I also think that.

@Domagoj: Source engine = fps engine. DotA= RTS game. How it will work at end, we will see.

I think you are wrong there mate, DotA is much more of a RPG than it is a RTS, and functions well on an RTS game interface. Now Im sure they wont make DotA first person game, this Valve guys are a competent bunch, theyll think of something.

[ArizaelCZ]

The quality guarantee is the IceFrog. He has been working on dota so very far. And dota quality is improving and it keeps up till nowdays. All we can do is hope that he won't fail his very own game.

[vaikiss]

well valve is very experianced company at game creating i bet they will do all what they can in order to make dota 2 best selling game in the world

[joyjoy]

The quality guarantee is the IceFrog. He has been working on dota so very far. And dota quality is improving and it keeps up till nowdays. All we can do is hope that he won't fail his very own game.

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well valve is very experianced company at game creating i bet they will do all what they can in order to make dota 2 best selling game in the world

valve know their engine and Icefrog says what he wants and valve try implement it to the engine to work how he wanted all of them are creators for very long time and know everything about their stuff so I think it would be ok  at last it will be in our hands sooner that the unreachable shadow called Diablo III so we make our view on thing

[Domagoj]

well valve is very experianced company at game creating i bet they will do all what they can in order to make dota 2 best selling game in the world

If you mean that they will try to make a game that will be a blockbuster only to sell as many copies as possible, i believe it wont be like that. Blizzard is here to do that. Valve has always been very user-friendly, take a look at Half-Life 2 for example; graphics were say 2 years ahead of any other game back then, and you could play it on almost any computer. I think that they will make a game that is of very good quality, especially since IceFrog is making it together with them.

[yaphets_]

Do you think VALVE, a basically SHOOTER game company will be good enough to make this kind of game? I still have doubts...

Well if they make it a awesome game i doubt it will own...

Btw fawkz If Dota2 will be very popular you will make this community for Dota2?

but as i can see youre a big fan for regular dota

[X-PLODE]

As long as they don't add dumb shit like shader 3.0 , HDR, DX10, BLOOM(omfg) it will be fine.

Source engine is backwards scalable and very efficient, so as long as they don't go batshit crazy on addon graphics enhancements it should run smoother in medium/high vs wc3 engine on low.