Discusion about playdota staffs

[Natura Sonoris]

this is kinda lol.so ur friends can leave,stats abuse,anything they want and they wont get banned? o.O

If u asslicker why not ? there will be always ,,me got mod /admin frend - gg ) once i had give somthing in return to get fast unban fair enough

[mrNiceguy]

( if they did not broke the rule ).

Read the rest posts before you comment xenystyle.

[XenyStyle]

( if they did not broke the rule ).

Read the rest posts before you comment xenystyle.

there was too many crap and proly didnt read all
if he didnt brake any rule than he should be unbanned friend or not.
and i think that no1 deserves bann for leaving game before it ends ~3-5 min when they cant do anything...

[MiZiGe]

f/o dark-

[a.l.i.e.n]

No u dont get it, no one forbidding me to unban players that asking unban with /w and no one is forbidding me to unban my friends ( if they did not broke the rule ).

Also you dont pay for playing here, you dont even donate, I am trying to be nice toward anyone as much as I can and in end what I get, I am getting report on xpam cause I am cursed on all chat cause of lag. I mean I can act like I dont know anyone, and I cant decide not to help anyone but I wont, cause I know that there is non spoiled children and players which is playing here and they deserve my help and my assistance.

u are nice (ofc in nickname only) but u still breaking rules http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,26992.0.html

[Kristjansson]

mrniceguy: I recommend some sense making classes, doesn't seem like you're making any, with all due respect... "I have all rights to unban my friends, or anyone who ask for unban nicely, that is not abusing that is acting nicely." That is abusing when other users have to post an unban request by going around the rules.

No this is not a discussion, if you happen to disagree with me I invite your reply..

Dark: "and i didnt threat u just told you that ill report" this is a threat, but your heart is in the right place even though your sense making doesn't make sense either.

On a totally unrelated note... is it just me or should it be mandatory to take some English lessons before posting on these forums(best suggestion so far) so you might be able to understand each other.

[Kristjansson]

mrniceguy: "Do you remember that you came on channel and called me in that game? And yes if you /w me I would unban you np. And that does not need to be in rules, it is the same thing like you say that if I am driving a cab (taxi) I cant give a free drive to anyone who I want ?"

This is also a bad example seeing how you are not respecting the rules of your employer which specifically wants you to drive people to their destination and get paid for it and he gets his share, on your work-time you're driving around your friends which would mean you're losing customers and wasting gas money your employer is paying for.

How did you become an admin here ? When you can't even understand the difference between right and wrong, You should seriously reconsider your position on this forum, your so-called "friends" should not be immune to the rules much like any of the average joes playing on your client.

[MeKillU]

employer ?

you can't even understand the difference between right and wrong

to be able to understand that difference you first should define right and wrong, please do.

[Kristjansson]

Gladly,
mrniceguy: "I have all rights to unban my friends, or anyone who ask for unban nicely, that is not abusing that is acting nicely."

That is wrong, he shouldn't be able to unban his friends manually without them posting an unban reqeust like all the others have to do if they get banned now why should they get special treatment?

The right thing to do would be to make them post an unban reqeust and as a non-mutual admin he should not have the final vote if they should get banned or not.

Also, seems like you didn't understand the metaphor of the taxi driver, yes the employer that hired him to do his job which is to be a taxi driver as in, driving people to their desired location for money, if however he wants to drive his friends around instead and waste gas money and time he could be using to do his job the employer would not lose any money(assuming he would hence he's paying for the gas and paying his employees for working for him).

To mrniceguy, you should be a mutual admin and don't make decisions based on what's best for you and your friends interest.

This is starting to look like a political debate, is anyone here not lacking common sense? He's thinking of the best interest of himself and his friends instead of being a mutual admin.

[MeKillU]

you do not have a monopoly on truth, or common sense , a word that you are abusing.
you see the difference btween a unban req and manual unban ? if you loose conn and host bans you then you get a week ban. should you get it if you didnt plug and had no reason to leave ? do you have to wait till the end of the game and untill request gets solved ?

i dont think MNG unbans ppl banned thru ban requests. that should be and is left to other mods, generaly those who banned in the first place.

Also, seems like you didn't understand the metaphor of the taxi driver, yes the employer that hired him to do his job which is to be a taxi driver as in, driving people to their desired location for money, if however he wants to drive his friends around instead and waste gas money and time he could be using to do his job the employer would not lose any money(assuming he would hence he's paying for the gas and paying his employees for working for him).

i dont think MNG gets payed for gas ;( or petrol.. ;P

[mrNiceguy]

I did not refused anyone at any time who wisped me nicely and said oh I got banned please can you check my unban request, or if someone wisped me with oh I am banned can you please unban me. If I have time I will go and check the game where he is banned. So if you think that I am payed for working here then you are wrong, I am not. I will once again say that if mekillu, or anyone who is active user here, come and ask me for unban without posting request, I will be more than glad to unban him if he did not do anything wrong.

[Kristjansson]

Neither of you are getting the point, the metaphor of the taxi driver was not in any means a direct example of your position as an admin, you started the with the point that "if I was a taxi driver and I'm allowed to drive my friends around"

As for you MekillU, please elaborate, I don't have the "monopoly on truth or common sense" So my point that he doesn't have common sense by unbanning his friends manually without posting an unban request seems ok to you, shouldn't everyone have the same standards? You bring nothing to the table without just telling me I'm wrong and that I don't have common sense, please rephrase if you want to make a point, otherwise don't reply if you're just going to blatantly type out ridiculous accusations that I don't have common sense without basing it with any facts or even slightest assumptions..

And also, stop misunderstanding my posts, I come here as a mutual reader, I don't care about the guy complaining about admins here, I don't care if mrniceguy really did just unban someone manually who got unintentionally disconnected from a game. For all I care mrniceguy can be a nice guy, I don't care. Get to the point.

"Dark : so w8 a sec u think thats good to do ninja unban as HEAD moderator ? why should other ppl then make unban request ?"
This is the point, please stick to it, I have no past with mrniceguy and I repeat, I'm a mutual reader that finds these accusations and statements quite odd.

[mrNiceguy]

"Dark : so w8 a sec u think thats good to do ninja unban as HEAD moderator ? why should other ppl then make unban request ?"
This is the point, please stick to it, I have no past with mrniceguy and I repeat, I'm a mutual reader that finds these accusations and statements quite odd.

Yes kristijansson, cause I am HEAD moderator, there is something called owner and you think that owner of this bot ( I am not owner btw ) does not have right to unban or ban anyone he wants, even if he did something wrong or not!
What I want to say is this, I have right to do that, why? cause I am moderator. And if you say why others has to post I will respond cause I dont know everyone who play on this bot, so sometimes I need to read and search by reports.
But remember, everyone need to obey the rules, I make exceptions from time to time like I did in this situation I have unbanned dark- and yet he did not deserved to be unbanned.

[MeKillU]

MekillU, please elaborate,
I don't have the "monopoly on truth or common sense"

IMHO you are abusing and misusing words (common sense, mutual, assumptions).
you say i misunderstand your metaphors. i dont. i just point out they are hmm.. incorrect ?
i just explained to you WHY does MNG unban ppl without unban req - the question that seems to be bothering you... and you failed to acknowledge.

i do not attack you i just show where i think you are wrong. you accuse others of being ignorant and unwise whilst you yourself fail to understand what we are trying to tell u. i think not because u CANT understand, u just seem not to want to.

[Kristjansson]

"I make exceptions from time to time like I did in this situation I have unbanned dark- and yet he did not deserved to be unbanned."
Why? then you're not trustworthy of being an admin in my opinion, your heart is in the right place but you still don't get the point, why are you unbanning someone that doesn't deserve to be? You shouldn't get personal when it comes to banning/unbanning users.

It doesn't matter if you CAN or CANNOT unban users, you are here to make decisions based on what YOU think is right, and I'm doubting that you're capable of doing so since you're making exceptions and unbanning people manually who didn't even bother to post an unban request, it's not an e-penis measurement and I'm not encouraging you to go on a power-trip. Because I'm well aware of what you're capable of(banning and unbanning users)

That's my point and it's a valid point, however as you've stated before, you are an admin and you can make decisions as in unbanning/banning people whether other people disagree/agree with you or not. I'm just trying to point out to you what you can do better for the community, with all due respect you need to reconsider your view of how you treat users on the bot.

Don't take this in any way personal I'm not trying to pick a fight or offend you.
Keep it frosty mate