Refusing to play cause of stupid reasons

[yaphets_]

its not stupid theese too guys are flaming community staff for stupid thing thats why i said them they spam...

[vuja]

Guys this is not garena...in pd there is rules and we need to stick to the rules http://playdota.eu/forum/index.php/topic,1425.0.html#post_ingame

[NEGERTIVS]

its not stupid theese too guys are flaming community staff for stupid thing thats why i said them they spam...

Yes mister l33tSpEaK-sig thats nice.

Guys this is not garena...in pd there is rules and we need to stick to the rules

THIS.

[Zerind]

the rule doesn`t define "unplayable conditions", so it`s up to everyone; if 4 players thought they can`t play like that, i respect their decision . whats the point in playing a game against 4 players who don`t want to play anymore from minute 8 of the game? and it was a private game, next time pick in ur private game players who u like to play with

Oh please. Since the rules mention "unplayable conditions" one should actually look for a condition or circumstance that renders the game unplayable. Now the bot having spikes or a significant number of players having lagspikes both qualify beautifully, and Im even willing to include having an early leaver as an "unplayable condition". Having a hero that you dislike on your team and then claiming "unplayable conditions" is just plain stupid, and is in the spheres of "omg i didnt get my favorite hero riki, must plugpull". How does getting techies render the game "unplayable" then? You still have a good ping, good fps, and a functioning computer.

Techies is just another hero. Im not saying he's a competitive top pick (even though I think kuroky tried playing him competitively), but he can still be extremely useful in the right hands. A competent techies can be swimming in kills by the end of early game and can help push his team to victory.

If you actually meant that any rmk vote supported by 40% of the players should be followed, why mention unplayable conditions in the rule?

Omg, we have done this whole thing here. We have discussed it, and came to an understanding.
No point in doing it all over again. Read the whole thread, especially Mr.Niceguy's final response, that basically closed the argument.
If you watch carefully, you can see that reasoning, and the will to listen and understand the others helps to come to a conclusion. But I have a feeling that these things are not among your intentions.
I'm guessing u have too much free time, restarting already thoroughly discussed topics. Or you just enjoy quarreling.
Hmm, to be honest, I don't know what your intentions are. What are those? Can you tell me please why you are arguing over many threads with the mods? And why you keep spitting me? (My karma tends to go down every time you post a thread. )
(By you, I mean Negertivs, Ali, Fnelleh, etc.)

[AliRadicali]

It's very simple. I don't want to have to remake every game where my opponents decide that picking/randoming Techies/KotL/insertrandomherohere warrants a remake.

The 40% rule is fine as long as it gets used for what it was intended to do: fix unplayable games.  Since it is my opinion that no single hero or combination of hero picks warrants a remake, I'm pointing out that the rule needs to be appended; stating explicitly that hero picks do not count as unplayable conditions.

OMG, discussing rules in the rules section??! Call the cops!

[Zerind]

I don't think you'd have to append that rule, since everyone agreed on this thing. Mods, us, we all agree here. So until only a few idiots think that techies is a reason to !rmk, I don't think u'd have to add an explanation to that rule.
But also, it doesn't hurt to have one more line there, so why not...

[AliRadicali]

I don't think you'd have to append that rule, since everyone agreed on this thing. Mods, us, we all agree here. So until only a few idiots think that techies is a reason to !rmk, I don't think u'd have to add an explanation to that rule.
But also, it doesn't hurt to have one more line there, so why not...

40% of players voted rmk in first 8 minutes, i sustain my decision . the rule doesn`t define "unplayable conditions", so it`s up to everyone; if 4 players thought they can`t play like that, i respect their decision . whats the point in playing a game against 4 players who don`t want to play anymore from minute 8 of the game? and it was a private game, next time pick in ur private game players who u like to play with

At the start of this thread, that 40% rule was given as a reason to deny your ban request, so apparently the rules aren't even clear enough for the mods, let alone the general populace.  Assuming people have common sense on this sever is a horrible mistake.

[Domagoj]

No, the "unplayable conditions" line should definitely be explained thoroughly in the rules. And if i understood correctly, mrniceguy said it would be done when the new set of rules arrives.

[Quon]

Using !rmk, !votekick and -switch is NOT obligation.

Player is allowed to leave game in following situations :

5v3, 5v2, 5v1,
4v3, 4v2, 4v1,
3v2, 3v1,
2v1;

[mrNiceguy]

No, the "unplayable conditions" line should definitely be explained thoroughly in the rules. And if i understood correctly, mrniceguy said it would be done when the new set of rules arrives.

Unplayable conditions in first 10 min of the game:

5v4 situation (where 1 player is out of game)
5v4 situation (1 or more players are afking,but  afk must be more than 5 minutes so you can -kickafk him, if he moves his hero on purpose u can vote for rmk and report that user on forum )
Where 1 or more players have lag! But if the ping is below 100-150 his complains about lag will not be taken as proof (this sentence will be changed probably)

5v3 and rest that quon wrote, you can leave the game whenever you want and host does not have right to ban you!


As I said, If you started game with a noob in team, that is not reason to leave the game or afk, you wonder why? Because before game starts you have time to check !sd of every player!( with new scoring system and new bot upgrade I think if you dont want noobs in game they will not be able to join, and count down will last 10 sec instead of 5 so you will have enough time to leave lobby if you dont like your team mates)


I think I was helpful here explaining about unplayble conditions!

P.S. Once again NO ONE IS OBLIGATED TO VOTE FOR ANY KIND OF COMMAND, !VOTEKICK, !RMK OR !SWITCH, HOW EVER IF YOU HAVE 4 votes for rmk in first 10 minutes of the game you can leave the game and host does not have right to ban you!

[Mechanik]

And this thread shows very well the weak point of rules.

Even if you know rules well and even when in 2nd min of the game (already 5vs4) u will get 40% votes to rmk
and you will leave, 99% of the hosts will ban you.
Whats the sense for waiting 2 days for unban for obey the rules?

quon said:

Player is allowed to leave game in following situations :

5v3, 5v2, 5v1,
4v3, 4v2, 4v1,
3v2, 3v1,
2v1;

Which is lie, you cant leave till opposite team players is greater than 2.
If u r 3vs2 u still need votermk.. otehrwise u will get fair ban.

Mrguy said:

As I said, If you started game with a noob in team, that is not reason to leave the game or afk, you wonder why? Because before game starts you have time to check !sd of every player!( with new scoring system and new bot upgrade I think if you dont want noobs in game they will not be able to join, and count down will last 10 sec instead of 5 so you will have enough time to leave lobby if you dont like your team mates)"

Exactly, techies is also a player and you cant know how someone plays it.
I know many people that plays techies excelent... matter of build.
U cant whine jsut because someone got in AR game techies, its selfish.

[mrNiceguy]

And this thread shows very well the weak point of rules.

Even if you know rules well and even when in 2nd min of the game (already 5vs4) u will get 40% votes to rmk
and you will leave, 99% of the hosts will ban you.
Whats the sense for waiting 2 days for unban for obey the rules?

And that is not true, cause we have more than enough moderators to solve all requests in 20 minutes, and if u wisp the mod he can solve it right away if he is free!

quon said:

Player is allowed to leave game in following situations :

5v3, 5v2, 5v1,
4v3, 4v2, 4v1,
3v2, 3v1,
2v1;

Which is lie, you cant leave till opposite team players is greater than 2.
If u r 3vs2 u still need votermk.. otehrwise u will get fair ban.

No it is not a lie, that is why we posted it here, and those are quotes from new rules!

And if someone ban them for leaving like that they will get unban and host will be banned for banning ppl for no reason!

[Mechanik]

New rules? owwww shiiiiii... xD

[AliRadicali]

No, the "unplayable conditions" line should definitely be explained thoroughly in the rules. And if i understood correctly, mrniceguy said it would be done when the new set of rules arrives.

Unplayable conditions in first 10 min of the game:

5v4 situation (where 1 player is out of game)
5v4 situation (1 or more players are afking,but  afk must be more than 5 minutes so you can -kickafk him, if he moves his hero on purpose u can vote for rmk and report that user on forum )
Where 1 or more players have lag! But if the ping is below 100-150 his complains about lag will not be taken as proof (this sentence will be changed probably)

5v3 and rest that quon wrote, you can leave the game whenever you want and host does not have right to ban you!


As I said, If you started game with a noob in team, that is not reason to leave the game or afk, you wonder why? Because before game starts you have time to check !sd of every player!( with new scoring system and new bot upgrade I think if you dont want noobs in game they will not be able to join, and count down will last 10 sec instead of 5 so you will have enough time to leave lobby if you dont like your team mates)


I think I was helpful here explaining about unplayble conditions!

P.S. Once again NO ONE IS OBLIGATED TO VOTE FOR ANY KIND OF COMMAND, !VOTEKICK, !RMK OR !SWITCH, HOW EVER IF YOU HAVE 4 votes for rmk in first 10 minutes of the game you can leave the game and host does not have right to ban you!

This is all fine and dandy, but as long as this sort of stuff isn't stated in the actual rules, "unplayable conditions" will remain a vague term open to anyone's interpretation (which, in turn, leads to people thinking they can leave the game if someone picks techies).

Furthermore, I very much doubt that all mods unanimously agree with you that a total noob is not a valid reason to remake.

Lastly, you mention that if 4 players vote remake, then everyone is free to go. Well what if they remake for a terrible reason (I.E. techies)?

[mrNiceguy]

First, why you need to quote that big topic ? I think that we all know at whos post you are responding!

And why u ask "Well, what if they remake for a terrible reason (I.E.techies)?"?

Read what I wrote in blue, and as I said techies is not reason to leave!

Now, I wont respond you anymore cause I consider u as spammer!