Author Topic: Suggestion for Stacking  (Read 3615 times)

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2021, 17:25 »
so this new system undermines PSR system?

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2021, 20:27 »
so this new system undermines PSR system?
There is no "PSR system" if games start unbalanced in the first place.

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2021, 21:03 »
so this new system undermines PSR system?
There is no "PSR system" if games start unbalanced in the first place.
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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2021, 11:09 »
About fixing unbalanced game and psr system i would DO ONLY ONE THING and we can fix almost every problem.

You can't use !start command while game is not balanced.. Maximum 59%41. Otherwise you cant use !start command and thats it. Example someone creates a game 65%35, he still cant use !start a game and he has to balance it a bit more.
I would set limit at 59% , but you can set limit at 65% for example.  Every balance above that is stacking.
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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2021, 11:14 »
I mean if u want a fix you should add a friend psr and solo psr system where if u use command ''friends'' instead of lock means u get friend psr etc etc

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2021, 16:52 »
About fixing unbalanced game and psr system i would DO ONLY ONE THING and we can fix almost every problem.

You can't use !start command while game is not balanced.. Maximum 59%41. Otherwise you cant use !start command and thats it. Example someone creates a game 65%35, he still cant use !start a game and he has to balance it a bit more.
I would set limit at 59% , but you can set limit at 65% for example.  Every balance above that is stacking.
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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2021, 17:44 »
I mean if u want a fix you should add a friend psr and solo psr system where if u use command ''friends'' instead of lock means u get friend psr etc etc
stop copying dota2 you just cant make it work everywhere
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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2021, 19:22 »
it is an actual good working system it doesn't matter where it comes from dota 2 or league of legends 3 You guys have a problem with it and just saying best solution so u don't see some unskilled players on high ladder no need to give names.

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2021, 16:54 »
About fixing unbalanced game and psr system i would DO ONLY ONE THING and we can fix almost every problem.

You can't use !start command while game is not balanced.. Maximum 59%41. Otherwise you cant use !start command and thats it. Example someone creates a game 65%35, he still cant use !start a game and he has to balance it a bit more.
I would set limit at 59% , but you can set limit at 65% for example.  Every balance above that is stacking.
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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2021, 14:26 »
I think no matter what you do, there will be abusers. Question is if current sistem is better or not, are there more abusers now than could be then?

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2021, 00:12 »
Did he finally make it? After years of complaining teritory23 has won his fight?

I don't have time to read through whole thing and announcements - someone just let me know if he won or not?
I was confused with this, and it was not only once, but it happens from time to time to /w wrong bot. If it was changed to la-custom or custom-la everyone would understand why is like that. But like this you must to read on forum to understand, even if you don't understand..

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I was confused with this, and it was not only once, but it happens from time to time to /w wrong bot. If it was changed to la-custom or custom-la everyone would understand why is like that. But like this you must to read on forum to understand, even if you don't understand..

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2021, 18:27 »
Nice improvement but limit can kill the game. Check for this game, 6 minutes have been lost for nothing. Both PSR Win% limiter and Win ratio% WR limiter are good to be on in case if games can start. In case where that is not possible the best option are penalties -PSR based on balance difference and individual PSR range , and ability to start the game , !votestart command in case where host is not allowed to !start. (+) and (-) PSR are must to have , with more (-) in special circumstances motivation to play can be increased.

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24:27       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 56 but max allowed is 22
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25:47       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1689 (53% to win, avg WR=53%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1689 (47% to win, avg WR=54%)
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26:43       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1660(27% to win, WR=49%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1717(73% to win, WR=59%)
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26:47       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 47 but max allowed is 22
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27:30       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1667(32% to win, WR=52%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1710(68% to win, WR=56%)
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27:31       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 35 but max allowed is 22
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27:52       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1667(32% to win, WR=51%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1710(68% to win, WR=57%)
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27:54    lostrun    !balance
27:54       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1689 (53% to win, avg WR=53%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1689 (47% to win, avg WR=54%)
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28:06    BestMurlocPlay    !rs
28:06       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1667(32% to win, WR=52%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1710(68% to win, WR=56%)
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28:34       This game requires manual balancing. Difference between team win chances is 35 but max allowed is 22
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28:39    lostrun    32 68
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28:44    BestMurlocPlay    mavi
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28:50    BestMurlocPlay    balance olur
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29:02    YouANdme    best bugun oyun aldinmi?
29:06    BestMurlocPlay    !open 5
29:06       Slot 5 opened
29:06       [fixe]fixe has left the game.
29:12    BestMurlocPlay    2 günde sadece 1 oyun alabildim oda zorzoruna
29:15    BestMurlocPlay    13 oyunda 12 lose
29:21    lostrun    benımde 10 oyunda
29:23       -Mars- has joined the game.
29:23       Spoof check accepted for [-Mars- : server.eurobattle.net].
29:23       Spoof check accepted for [-Mars- : server.eurobattle.net].
29:24    lostrun    6 lose 4 win
29:26    BestMurlocPlay    !rs
29:26       Sentinel avg. PSR: 1686(39% to win, WR=51%), Scourge avg. PSR: 1710(61% to win, WR=56%)
29:27    lostrun    !Rs
29:28    BestMurlocPlay    !start
29:28       Players not yet pinged 3 times: -Mars-
29:32    BestMurlocPlay    !start
29:32       Players not yet pinged 3 times: -Mars-
29:34    -Mars-    bi zahmet
29:35    BestMurlocPlay    !start
29:35       Game is starting, game mode is set to [ap].
29:35       10. . .
29:36       9. . .
29:36    -Mars-    baslasın :D
29:36       8. . .
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29:39    lostrun    boyle artık
29:39       3. . .
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29:40       1. . .
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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2021, 19:28 »
The recent update should address this problem.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2021, 19:39 by cen »