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Suggestion for Stacking
« on: May 08, 2021, 13:31 »
After iErnesto94's last message on a locked topic, I suggest adding a rule and a sanction for stacking. There will not be a command, or auto balance check before the game starts but just like other rules, stacking will be reported if a player thinks that stacking ruined the game. Then, B&U admins check if there is a stacking.

If you play a stacking game with all your friends (I mean 10 players are friends or sth), or if a team intentionally wants to play vs stackers then nobody will report it.

In addition, stacking is not only about PSR. Some new accounts do not have high PSR but very good stats (like 13/2/8) and locking these players is also stacking. We need to add KDA stacking because players can create new accounts just to avoid stacking.

It is just adding a line in lobby rules.

 

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2021, 13:45 »
I suggest to start the game only if 6 players voted to start. 3 from each team
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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2021, 14:54 »
I suggest to start the game only if 6 players voted to start. 3 from each team

You mean something like !ready  command?

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2021, 15:16 »
I dont think you have enough players to do balanced games. If you would have 5+ lobbies at all times you could say that some players are making not balanced teams on purpose, but with the numbers, as they are now, you could not even prove that TooShade is doing this.

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2021, 16:29 »
I think good ideas. During all years i hear this excuse "there is not enough player" but if we wont make improvements how should more players come?

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2021, 17:48 »
I suggest to start the game only if 6 players voted to start. 3 from each team

You mean something like !ready  command?
yea
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That guy was a lunatic abuser with skizofrenia. banning players left and right for no fucking reason. Thx God he is gone and won't abuse players anymore.

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2021, 19:45 »
I support @territory23

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2021, 21:04 »
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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2021, 00:36 »
Feel free to post positive ideas and we can all together work on fixing things. I will post my ideas when I have time.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2021, 00:38 by iErnesto94 »

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2021, 12:21 »
One solution that was proposed in the other thread is being worked on, I just need a free day to test it and deploy it. I have too much IRL stuff going on so have patience.

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2021, 13:54 »
I see on this server admins remove posts that dont suit them...
Now when i go check out forums i see half complaints gone...
Someone who doesnt know what turkbattle.net is, would actually join for 5 mins until he realizes it on his own... :D :D

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2021, 17:45 »
I see on this server admins remove posts that dont suit them...
Now when i go check out forums i see half complaints gone...
Someone who doesnt know what turkbattle.net is, would actually join for 5 mins until he realizes it on his own... :D :D

The content of your post didnt affect me at all since I never did a favor or abused any rules (1-2 missteps but that was 6-7years ago when I was young). As I said before in this thread only productive posts are allowed. Going offtopic and blindly/without proof talking about conspiracies is counterproductive.

Feel free to post your complaint at the complaint board and I guarantee you that it is going to be solved fairly, as it happens here for decades.
From time to time a mod/admin can show bad behavior but that doesn't represent everyone. In every group, there are people that help and some misbehave. Fortunately, every single time such problems were fixed here.

« Last Edit: May 09, 2021, 17:51 by iErnesto94 »

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2021, 20:18 »
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One solution that was proposed in the other thread is being worked on, I just need a free day to test it and deploy it. I have too much IRL stuff going on so have patience.

Which solution? I think many were proposed in last years

I think we need to distinguish between what is stacked game and what is not. For me i see 4 types of stacked games:

1. Arranged games where all or most players know each other and play regularly (for example annlvl games). Balance is done by host and is subjective but from my experience these games are balanced the best.

2. Game where 4-5 players are locked vs randoms (for example tooshade games). Probably fun but only for 1 side because they typically end min 20-30 and/or consist of mocking weaker players. In my opinion this is worst kind of games here.

3. Game where host locks good players with him and bad players against him (there were some players doing it in past, now not sure). This produces bad games too, same like 2.

4. Game where 2-3 friends play together (very common to see). Hard to say if its good or bad, always depends on the game and players skill level. In practice it doesn't seem to disturb the game, unless its timurka with his friend ofc.

It means that stackers which should be punished most likely are:
- who locks people with/vs him without being friends or after they ask, especially after checking their sd
- who play as team vs randoms, especially low level randoms.

Problem is that its hard to define this properly because you can always find some way to stack which isnt mentioned in the rules. Another problem is that without stacking our top 10 will probably lose their ladder position and 1 of them is the one who makes the rules.

So i think the only real way to solve stacking is to set some hard limits in bot which was suggested in this thread.

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I see on this server admins remove posts that dont suit them...
Now when i go check out forums i see half complaints gone...
Someone who doesnt know what turkbattle.net is, would actually join for 5 mins until he realizes it on his own...

Ofc after wepla closed many turks came here, dont see problem unless you are racist bro

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The content of your post didnt affect me at all since I never did a favor or abused any rules (1-2 missteps but that was 6-7years ago when I was young). As I said before in this thread only productive posts are allowed. Going offtopic and blindly/without proof talking about conspiracies is counterproductive.

Feel free to post your complaint at the complaint board and I guarantee you that it is going to be solved fairly, as it happens here for decades.
From time to time a mod/admin can show bad behavior but that doesn't represent everyone. In every group, there are people that help and some misbehave. Fortunately, every single time such problems were fixed here.

Always funny to hear such speeches here. Nobody believes that he is the evil one, even tyrants and maniacs. But i guess you gotta keep up the image after all, always was annoyed by that back in the times i was moderator.

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Re: Suggestion for Stacking
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2021, 23:06 »
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