Author Topic: Improve FPS  (Read 3626 times)

Offline begin

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Topic Author
  • Posts: 945
  • Country: sk
  • Karma: +846/-359
  • Awards 1v1 ARSHOM [RARE] Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] Mirana Wars Winner [RARE] LA Ladder #3 [LEGENDARY] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Invoker 1v1 Tournament Winner [RARE] Shadow Raze Tour Award [RARE] 1v1 Earthshaker Tournament Winner [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Improve FPS
« on: January 21, 2021, 14:05 »
Hi, any advices on how to improve my FPS rate apart from buying a new graphic card and typing -betterpfs in game. Thanks.

Offline tehnika8x8

  • techies respawn
  • V.I.P Affairs
  • WickedSick Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1909
  • Country: cs
  • Karma: +294/-24
  • Awards LA High Staff [EPIC] Winner of 1 Signature of the Week Contest [COMMON] Winning 5 seasons of Football Betting [LEGENDARY] Forum staff member [RARE] LA staff - Moderator Winner of 1 Photoshop Challenge Contest [COMMON] GFX Tournament Participant [COMMON] Contributor [COMMON] Winner of 3 Challenges of the Week [RARE] VIP Member [EPIC] Highest number of credits won with a betting ticket [UNIQUE] Making 50 bets in Footbal Betting [COMMON]
    • View Profile
    • Awards

Offline iErnesto94

  • Honored member
  • HolyShit Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5125
  • Country: gr
  • Karma: +490/-396
  • Server Account: iErnesto94
    PSR: Loading
    Games: Loading
    Wins/Loses: Loading/Loading
    Hero K/D/A: Loading
    Creep K/D/N: Loading
    Show/hide more stats
  • Awards LA Ladder #1 [LEGENDARY] VIP Member [EPIC] Lagabuse Legend LA High Staff [EPIC] Contributor [COMMON] Patreon Supporter [RARE] DotA 5v5 Tournament Winner [EPIC] Winner of 1 Photoshop Challenge Contest [COMMON] 1v1 Windrunner Tour Winner [RARE] B&U staff member [RARE] Tours staff member [RARE] GFX staff member [RARE] 3v3 SHOM Tournament Winner [RARE] 3rd Place Admins Cup [EPIC] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] LA Ladder #4-10 [LEGENDARY] Best B&U mod of the month [RARE] LA staff - Moderator IHRL Member [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2021, 21:52 »
Didnt work for me. With RTX 2080 Ti I get 50-60 fps lol.

Offline begin

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Topic Author
  • Posts: 945
  • Country: sk
  • Karma: +846/-359
  • Awards 1v1 ARSHOM [RARE] Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] Mirana Wars Winner [RARE] LA Ladder #3 [LEGENDARY] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Invoker 1v1 Tournament Winner [RARE] Shadow Raze Tour Award [RARE] 1v1 Earthshaker Tournament Winner [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2021, 22:29 »
I can not get over 20fps :s

Offline cen

  • Eurobattle.net Admin
  • WickedSick Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2166
  • Country: si
  • Karma: +280/-57
  • Lok'tar Ogar
  • Awards Lagabuse Legend LA High Staff [EPIC] MadBalls Tournament Winner [RARE] MVP Member [LEGENDARY]
    • View Profile
    • EuroBattle.net
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2021, 22:54 »
Is it like that just for dota or any map? What about single player for example?

I know dota is more demanding but that seems much.

Offline begin

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Topic Author
  • Posts: 945
  • Country: sk
  • Karma: +846/-359
  • Awards 1v1 ARSHOM [RARE] Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] Mirana Wars Winner [RARE] LA Ladder #3 [LEGENDARY] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Invoker 1v1 Tournament Winner [RARE] Shadow Raze Tour Award [RARE] 1v1 Earthshaker Tournament Winner [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2021, 00:15 »
Is it like that just for dota or any map? What about single player for example?

I know dota is more demanding but that seems much.
Only dota

Offline cen

  • Eurobattle.net Admin
  • WickedSick Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2166
  • Country: si
  • Karma: +280/-57
  • Lok'tar Ogar
  • Awards Lagabuse Legend LA High Staff [EPIC] MadBalls Tournament Winner [RARE] MVP Member [LEGENDARY]
    • View Profile
    • EuroBattle.net
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2021, 09:03 »
Maybe draco is to blame then. Does -betterfps help at all and if so, how many frames?

Offline begin

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Topic Author
  • Posts: 945
  • Country: sk
  • Karma: +846/-359
  • Awards 1v1 ARSHOM [RARE] Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] Mirana Wars Winner [RARE] LA Ladder #3 [LEGENDARY] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Invoker 1v1 Tournament Winner [RARE] Shadow Raze Tour Award [RARE] 1v1 Earthshaker Tournament Winner [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2021, 10:26 »
-betterfps provides me with extra 1-3 fps  :D

Offline cen

  • Eurobattle.net Admin
  • WickedSick Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2166
  • Country: si
  • Karma: +280/-57
  • Lok'tar Ogar
  • Awards Lagabuse Legend LA High Staff [EPIC] MadBalls Tournament Winner [RARE] MVP Member [LEGENDARY]
    • View Profile
    • EuroBattle.net
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2021, 11:26 »
Just for the sake of comparing, load some regular map with lagabuse bot and report the fps there.

I will speak to d1stats guys if there is some solution to this.

I will also try to compile a table tonight with all possible options to determine which combination produces the best result.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2021, 11:44 by cen »

Offline begin

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Topic Author
  • Posts: 945
  • Country: sk
  • Karma: +846/-359
  • Awards 1v1 ARSHOM [RARE] Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] Mirana Wars Winner [RARE] LA Ladder #3 [LEGENDARY] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Invoker 1v1 Tournament Winner [RARE] Shadow Raze Tour Award [RARE] 1v1 Earthshaker Tournament Winner [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2021, 18:10 »
Just for the sake of comparing, load some regular map with lagabuse bot and report the fps there.

How do I check fps on map that is not dota

Offline cen

  • Eurobattle.net Admin
  • WickedSick Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2166
  • Country: si
  • Karma: +280/-57
  • Lok'tar Ogar
  • Awards Lagabuse Legend LA High Staff [EPIC] MadBalls Tournament Winner [RARE] MVP Member [LEGENDARY]
    • View Profile
    • EuroBattle.net
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 19:12 »
This is what I could figure out.

For non dota you can either:
- type /fps
- use Radeon Overlay if you have AMD or nvidia equivalent
- Use Afterburner (in config->Monitoring enable Framerate and it will draw a graph over time)

PC 1:
- RX 580, this is mid range card from 3-4 years ago
- monitor 1440k at 144Hz
- no matter what setting, 64 FPS (vsynced). So the GPU can easily handle the game.
- the only way to disable vsync is in Dota settings (cog wheel on top-left)->Visuals->Vsync checkbox. I did not find this setting in .ini
- after removing vsync FPS went to 90

Since this GPU could max out I continued to my laptop without testing any other settings.

PC 2:
- GTX 960m, this is mid range laptop from 5-6 years ago
- has integrated Intel graphics. It is important to make sure nvidia GPU is used. For example, when on battery it uses Intel automatically and I got 23FPS
- in Windows 10 Display->Graphic Settings->add w3l/war3.exe and put them on High performance mode just to make sure
- monitor is 4k at 47Hz so this is crap for gaming. Ingame resolution was set to FHD since 4K is too much
- with nvidia at this settings I could get 50FPS
- lockfb=0 added a few frames but not much (55fps roughly)
- playing with BetterFPS, BetterFPS2, BetterFPS3 in dota config didn't really do much (maybe a few frames)
- OpenGL was 48FPS (I suspect locked to display refresh)
- windowed mode was worst of all


So I would say:
- remove vsync
- use directx + lockfb
- try BetterFPS (2, 3) in dota config but don't expect much
- if you have 20ish fps you could also try to lower the vsync to 32 or 30 by setting MaxFPS in dota config, not sure that would really help tho.

At least from my side, the game seems to scale as one would expect 90-50-20 from best to worst GPU. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the game or the map. @iErnesto94 is weird case since your GPU should do >100 easily. Try disabling vsync and see what happens.

I think the only thing you can really do is to go in w3 video settings and start lowering details, ultimately if fps is still crap lower resolution to 720p.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2021, 19:26 by cen »

Offline iErnesto94

  • Honored member
  • HolyShit Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5125
  • Country: gr
  • Karma: +490/-396
  • Server Account: iErnesto94
    PSR: Loading
    Games: Loading
    Wins/Loses: Loading/Loading
    Hero K/D/A: Loading
    Creep K/D/N: Loading
    Show/hide more stats
  • Awards LA Ladder #1 [LEGENDARY] VIP Member [EPIC] Lagabuse Legend LA High Staff [EPIC] Contributor [COMMON] Patreon Supporter [RARE] DotA 5v5 Tournament Winner [EPIC] Winner of 1 Photoshop Challenge Contest [COMMON] 1v1 Windrunner Tour Winner [RARE] B&U staff member [RARE] Tours staff member [RARE] GFX staff member [RARE] 3v3 SHOM Tournament Winner [RARE] 3rd Place Admins Cup [EPIC] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] LA Ladder #4-10 [LEGENDARY] Best B&U mod of the month [RARE] LA staff - Moderator IHRL Member [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2021, 20:58 »
Dear cen, thank you for your help.
In v7.00 I had around 50fps. I changed from 120fps limit to max and my fps increased to 130-140. (the fps limit made my game get low fps).
Vsync option on limits to 64 fps.

In v6.9 I get again around 50fps. I changed fps limit to 500 (couldn't set max) and I get 64/64 fps. Now the problem is I guess vsync, its turned on and limits 6.9 to 64fps.
I added vsync=false in dotaconfig but it didn't work.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2021, 21:09 by iErnesto94 »

Offline luke

  • ~evil~
  • Contributor
  • MonsterKill Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3837
  • Country: de
  • Karma: +482/-243
  • Server Account: FatAndViolent
    PSR: Loading
    Games: Loading
    Wins/Loses: Loading/Loading
    Hero K/D/A: Loading
    Creep K/D/N: Loading
    Show/hide more stats
  • Awards Warlock Tour Winner [RARE] Pudge Wars Tournament Winner [RARE] Hacks staff member [RARE] Shadow Raze Tour Award [RARE] Best B&U mod of the month 3 times in a row [EPIC] 3rd Place Admins Cup [EPIC] Uther Party Tournament Winner [COMMON]
    • View Profile
    • My channel
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2021, 21:50 »
How many you need? 64 fps is max for 1.26 and i guess 6.9 too. In 7.00 seems there was some hack to bypass this limit

Offline cen

  • Eurobattle.net Admin
  • WickedSick Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2166
  • Country: si
  • Karma: +280/-57
  • Lok'tar Ogar
  • Awards Lagabuse Legend LA High Staff [EPIC] MadBalls Tournament Winner [RARE] MVP Member [LEGENDARY]
    • View Profile
    • EuroBattle.net
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2021, 23:45 »
AFAIK there is no way to disable vsync at all in stock game, draco did some hack in v7 to do it inside the map. One more reason to play v7 I guess.

There is also vsync option in video settings in reforged but this is just a FYI..

@iErnesto94 you got 120fps after disabling vsync or after changing maxFPS .ini setting? Anyway, glad you can finally join the nolag master race :P

I think it would be nice if d1stats can add vsync setting to ini, then we can even add the settings inside our client so it is much easier to change.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2021, 23:48 by cen »

Offline begin

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Topic Author
  • Posts: 945
  • Country: sk
  • Karma: +846/-359
  • Awards 1v1 ARSHOM [RARE] Admiral Tournament Winner [RARE] Mirana Wars Winner [RARE] LA Ladder #3 [LEGENDARY] Best Couple (2v2) Tour Winner [RARE] Invoker 1v1 Tournament Winner [RARE] Shadow Raze Tour Award [RARE] 1v1 Earthshaker Tournament Winner [RARE]
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Improve FPS
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2021, 20:00 »
I tried everything and nothing works. I´ll reinstall Windows to see if that helps