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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #180 on: January 08, 2021, 20:29 »
Week5 Day3

Dota6.9/games players
19/29
19/28
20/29
16/26
18/27
16/26
21/28
07/08
19+19+20+16+18+16+21+07 = 136/201 ~ 68%

Dota7.0/games players
10/29
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10/26
09/27
10/26
07/28
01/08
10+09+09+10+09+10+07+01 = 65/201 ~ 32%

















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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #181 on: January 08, 2021, 20:30 »
Week5 Day4

Dota6.9/games players
21/30
16/27
20/29
13/25
17/27
21+16+20+13+17 = 87/138

Dota7.0/games players
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11/27
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10/27
09+11+09+12+10 = 51/138










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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #182 on: January 08, 2021, 21:40 »
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We need some automatic solution like a script which would gather statistic and post here

I also suggest starting publishing the LAGABUSE NEWS NEWSPAPER which would contain recent bans, complaints, suggestions, best games of the week, statistics etc

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #183 on: January 08, 2021, 21:49 »
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I also suggest starting publishing the LAGABUSE NEWS NEWSPAPER which would contain recent bans, complaints, suggestions, best games of the week, statistics etc

@MarvinJunior applies for the Editor in Chief position.
@grga_man as his Secretary General
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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #184 on: January 09, 2021, 03:28 »
Week5 Day3

Dota6.9/games players
15/29
14/28
14/24
11/24
18/27
18/26
13/18
15+14+14+11+18+18+13 = 103/176

Dota7.0/games players
14/29
14/28
10/24
13/24
09/27
08/26
05/18
14+14+10+13+09+08+05 = 73/176

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Week5 Day4 Part1

Dota6.9/games players
01/01
19/28
14/26
19/28
13/19
01+19+14+19+13 = 66/102

Dota7.0/games players
00/01
09/28
12/26
09/28
06/19
00+09+12+09+06 = 36/102


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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #185 on: January 09, 2021, 04:32 »

Happy Orthodox Christmas to all who celebrate!
This result is after 5000 games played and after 32 days since unfair advantage was given to Dota2 map - Dota7.
All this to satisfy near 30% of players and to split player base

Dota6.9 = Week1 + Week2 + Week3 + Week4 + Week5 = 613 + 638 + 594 + 591 + 634 = 3070 games played

Dota7.0 = Week1 + Week2 + Week3 + Week4 + Week5 = 387 + 362 + 406 + 409 + 366 = 1930  games played


Week5: Total games = 634 + 366 = 1000 games played

Dota6.9 = Week4Day6After1000+Week4Day7After1000+Week5Day1+Week5Day2+Week5Day3+Week5Day4Part1 = 84 + 117 + 128 + 136 + 103 + 66 = 634 map6.9 games finished

Dota7.0 = Week4Day6After1000+Week4Day7After1000+Week5Day1+Week5Day2+Week5Day3+Week5Day4Part1 = 52 +  76  +  64  +  65  +  73  + 36 = 366 map7.0 games finished

Week4 Day6 After1000

Dota6.9/games players
15/27
14/25
16/24
21/28
13/23
05/09
15+14+16+21+13+05 = 84/136

Dota7.0/games players
12/27
11/25
08/24
07/28
10/23
04/09
12+11+08+07+10+04 = 52/136


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Week4 Day7 After1000

Dota6.9/games players
14/27
16/27
16/29
15/26
18/27
14/22
16/24
08/11
14+16+16+15+18+14+16+08 = 117/193

Dota7.0/games players
13/27
11/27
13/29
11/26
09/27
08/22
08/24
03/11
13+11+13+11+09+08+08+03 = 76/193


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It looks like Dota7 popularity is going down lately, 2x more Dota6.9 games  :y:

Week5 Day1

Dota6.9/games players
20/26
17/25
19/29
18/25
16/26
18/25
14/24
06/12
20+17+19+18+16+18+14+06 = 128/192 ~ 67%

Dota7.0/games players
06/26
08/25
10/29
07/25
10/26
07/25
10/24
06/12
06+08+10+07+10+07+10+06 = 64/192 ~ 33%

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Week5 Day2

Dota6.9/games players
19/29
19/28
20/29
16/26
18/27
16/26
21/28
07/08
19+19+20+16+18+16+21+07 = 136/201 ~ 68%

Dota7.0/games players
10/29
09/28
09/29
10/26
09/27
10/26
07/28
01/08
10+09+09+10+09+10+07+01 = 65/201 ~ 32%


Spoiler for Hiden:
















Week5 Day3

Dota6.9/games players
15/29
14/28
14/24
11/24
18/27
18/26
13/18
15+14+14+11+18+18+13 = 103/176

Dota7.0/games players
14/29
14/28
10/24
13/24
09/27
08/26
05/18
14+14+10+13+09+08+05 = 73/176

Spoiler for Hiden:















Week5 Day4 Part1

Dota6.9/games players
01/01
19/28
14/26
19/28
13/19
01+19+14+19+13 = 66/102

Dota7.0/games players
00/01
09/28
12/26
09/28
06/19
00+09+12+09+06 = 36/102


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It is never late to bring end to this injustice, here are solutions:

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Dota6.9 is more popular and in normal conditions without favoritism of Dota7 not less than 70% of total Dota games are expected to be map6.9 games. It is more than obvious to see this number is increasing every day for Dota6.9. Dota7 aka Dota2 game popularity drops, few individuals are trying hard and they play all day long just to keep some normal number, but barely... Make Dota6.9 map default again with !pub command, see my proofs/daily statistics, over 1000 games difference and over 10000 accounts involved to make this difference.
Gaming experience has been ruined to 70% players with switching command and here are few ideas how to fix current situation and to improve gaming experience to everyone:

- 1. Just switch map again, Dota6.9 as default map with !pub command and Dota7 with !pubSomething

- 2. Separate 2 leagues with 2 ladders for new season, with separated commands and with separated custom games
/w lagabuse !pub name - for Dota6.9
/w la-dota !pub name - for Dota7
or vice versa, /w lagabuse was used in past for original Dota and should be given to Dota6.9
/w customgame !pub name - for custom games

- 3. If separating like this is not possible, give back !pub to 6.9 and make 2 ladders for 2 games. Make exception in database to split 2 maps into 2 public ladders.

- 4. If all above is not possible make !pub to be informative and give to both maps !pubSomething
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    /w la-dota !pub name
    You whisper to la-dota: !pub name
    la-dota whispers: To host Dota6.9 map use /w la-dota !pubc name | To host Dota7.0 map use /w la-dota !pubn name
To repeat again, favoritism of Dota7 without valid reason is damaging Dota6.9 in the long run, and Dota6.9 is much more popular with 70% of player base and need to be primary and default map, if not default, then give equality, no advantage should be given to Dota7. The only reason why default map was changed is to damage more popular map in favor to Dota2 and cocky individuals who lobbied to happen and who are not active players while in meanwhile these the very same people are advertising another platform/server.

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #186 on: January 09, 2021, 13:34 »
Here is contribution of mine to this topic

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #187 on: January 09, 2021, 19:57 »
The fact that number of games and rate has not really changed since the switch just proves that command reassignment has no effect and people play whatever they want and are not dumb. So "unfair advantage" has no base in facts which you yourself provide. Neither map is favored in any way other than 1 letter command difference.

We are also no separating ladder because it is too much work and nobody showed that differences between v6 and v7 are so great that PSR gains from either map are not comparable. If one map gave some unfair advantage in stat gains I would consider it but nothing of such nature was argued in this topic. As it stands, gaining PSR from either map is equal in difficulty unless someone can argue the contrary and show a significant difference.

I will soon close this topic since it has no further purpose.

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #188 on: January 10, 2021, 14:30 »
Week5 Day5

Dota6.9/games players
19/29
19/28
20/29
16/26
18/27
16/26
21/28
07/08
19+19+20+16+18+16+21+07 = 136/201 ~ 68%

Dota7.0/games players
10/29
09/28
09/29
10/26
09/27
10/26
07/28
01/08
10+09+09+10+09+10+07+01 = 65/201 ~ 32%
















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40:18 Hiatus [Allies] AHAH
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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #189 on: January 10, 2021, 14:30 »
Week5 Day6

Dota6.9/games players
21/30
16/27
20/29
13/25
17/27
21+16+20+13+17 = 87/138

Dota7.0/games players
09/30
11/27
09/29
12/25
10/27
09+11+09+12+10 = 51/138









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10, 3rd places are mine, wew!

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40:15 don_Kondo [Allies] olenishka
40:18 Hiatus [Allies] AHAH
40:21 don_Kondo [Allies] ya net olen
40:22 Hiatus [Allies] OLENISHKA
40:23 Hiatus [Allies] AHAHAH
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40:28 Hiatus [Allies] AHAHAHAH

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #190 on: January 10, 2021, 14:30 »
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10, 3rd places are mine, wew!

40:14 don_Kondo [Allies] olen olen
40:15 don_Kondo [Allies] olenishka
40:18 Hiatus [Allies] AHAH
40:21 don_Kondo [Allies] ya net olen
40:22 Hiatus [Allies] OLENISHKA
40:23 Hiatus [Allies] AHAHAH
40:25 don_Kondo [Allies] ya mala myshka
40:28 Hiatus [Allies] AHAHAHAH