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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2020, 19:16 »
Mate I'm kinda too lazy go into a discussion with you regarding this matter, it would take too long and I honestly don't want to waste too much of my brain cells on this.

A friendly advice - try and ask yourself why is this something you want to push through by all means. Why do you care so much about this? The way you handle this topic is kinda sus to me, I smell a lot of subjective bullshit.

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2020, 20:22 »
Okay you triggered me to reply on this, on other server there is 6k players who play v7 and you and other 40 players who are uncapable to learn new staff and adjust to play old map, so at the end there is 6k players and lets say they play 3 games per day 18000 games  vs your 400 games.
Beat that.. How other people could adjust you can too, if you cant play that old v6 and stfu.
I stopped playing here because of an old map, but i want you to see overall how many people accepted and you and small majority make big deal about this, so ridiculous.
Who gives a fuck about other server? You do not play on this server, why are you posting useless comments? Leave this place to Dota1 players and Dota1 is Dota6.9 map.
Now take a hand of nikolagay, MarvinJunior and all others who does not play on this server and go play with other 6k players, in case they really exist.

Also why 6.9 should stay as official map and not the classic dota 6.73d?
Why not. Classic dota 6.73d can also be added if there is interested players. But first separate 2 leagues before making 3rd and make Dota 6.9 default again.
There are over 6000 Dota7 players and over 18000 games on some unknown server, why do people like nikolagay, MarvinJunior, grga_man and some others spam here if they have another server. Here games can't start in less than 5 minutes, on unknown server with 18000 Dota7 daily games it will start in few seconds.

Mate I'm kinda too lazy go into a discussion with you regarding this matter, it would take too long and I honestly don't want to waste too much of my brain cells on this.

A friendly advice - try and ask yourself why is this something you want to push through by all means. Why do you care so much about this? The way you handle this topic is kinda sus to me, I smell a lot of subjective bullshit.
Yes you are kinda bellow my intellectual level and honestly there is nothing smart you can say.
You are not playing on this server and what do I push?. Who cares what do you think if you are not player. This topic concerns Dota1 6.9 majority players base and minority of Dota7 players. Lobbying group pushed fake info about Dota7 map popularity and huge mistake and injustice is done here. Minority above the Majority, ridiculous.
Or you guys care so much because you play under hidden nicks and this fake acting with famous unknown 6000k Dota7 players is just ridiculous and fake as your statements are. You and your friends have nothing smart to say, you can spam, you can insult me, you can lie people, but all that are invalid arguments. My proofs about current situation are public and available for everyone and Happy.. explained very well why Dota7 is not so popular like Dota6.9 is, read carefully his comment bellow, he admited:

Actually, when the v7 came out, a couple of months ago, there was a poll between v7 and v6 that resulted in v7 winning, even though a bunch of you morons kept creating fake profiles and double voting for v6. For reasons unknown to me, the transition hasn't been made.

You guys from Lobbying group are so fake that you can compare to nowadays politicians who do not have even a single valid argument to deny even a single sentence I mentioned in this topic. With other words said, you people from Lobbying group for Dota7 are way bellow my intellectual level.

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2020, 21:03 »
you people from Lobbying group for Dota7 are way bellow my intellectual level.

In one room can be 4230 chocolates and free and in another 2670 and free, all chocolates are the same. Which room is better to pick? 10 people will eat 4230 chocolates entire year and 5 people will eat 2670 chocolates half of the year. Logic is more than simple.

That's some Jordan Peterson level intellectual metaphor right there.

P. S. The people you're badmouthing have been playing on this server for almost 15 years. So yes, I think we have a little bit more credibility than clowns like yourself.
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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2020, 21:04 »
Your intellectual level can't seem to figure out I'm still playing Dota here from time to time. Guess your massive ego makes you overlook a thing or two.

Here's a little lesson in Dotaology for you kid:

Transition from Warcraft patch 1.25 to 1.26 crippled almost every Dota 1 community once 1.26 was released. People refused to switch to 1.26 cause "it wasn't populated enough" and "it made no sense to switch". 1.26 prevailed over time.

Once it was clear that Icefrog won't be releasing any further Dota 1 versions, Dracol1ch took over and released 6.85. People didn't want to switch because "it wasn't Icefrog's official version" and "it didn't make sense to switch". 6.85 prevailed and eventually substituted 6.83 on almost all communities.

Funny thing about these scenarions - in both cases people had hidden agendas behind their excuses. People just don't wanna get out of their comfort zones, and then claim that new versions are shittier cause of bad balance changes. News flash - all versions have balance issues. I can name the most significant ones from 6.70 to 6.90 but that would just spam the topic, and you probably wouldn't follow up anyway.

Oh, and before you even begin talking shit about balance changes and improvements, keep in mind that some of us started playing Dota on Eul's version. We've seen the true meaning of word "imbalanced" and adapted to far more changes over the years.

If people shared your mentality every time, we'd probably still be playing 6.83. Because "why bother changing something that works". Did I overlook your intelectual superiority here or?


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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2020, 01:12 »
@mordor911

two questions, do you feel like @cen failed you?

and how are you not top 1 with your 60 iq?

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2020, 05:07 »
- Day6:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 6 pages 153 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
19/30     Draws:  1/1
17/30                 1/2
18/30                 2/1
16/30                 1/1
20/30                 2/4
01/03                 0/0

Draws: Dota6.9 = 7 draws and Dota7 = 9 draws
19+17+18+16+20+1 = 91/153 Dota6.9 games and 62/153 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 7 =  84 games
Dota7 - draw = 62 - 9 = 53 games


Spoiler for Hiden:











For confused fellas who ask what is Dota7:


ALL GAMES CALCULATED IN THE LAST 6 DAYS SINCE DEFAULT MAP CHANGE
AND AFTER ADVANTAGE  HAS BEEN GIVEN TO MINORITY MAP Dota7

- Day1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 95 - 11 = 84 games
Dota7 - draw = 55 - 6 = 49 games

- Day2 part1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 67 - 9 = 58 games
Dota7 - draw = 53 - 13 = 40 games
- Day2 part2:
Dota6.9 - draw = 42 - 2 = 40 games
Dota7 - draw = 35 - 3 = 32 games

- Day3:
Dota6.9 - draw = 79 - 3 = 76  games
Dota7 - draw = 61 - 8 = 53 games

- Day4:
Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games
Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games

- Day5:
Dota6.9 - draw = 90 - 8 = 82 games
Dota7 - draw = 56 - 9 = 45 games

- Day6:
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 7 =  84 games
Dota7 - draw = 62 - 9 = 53 games

Dota6.9 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6 = 84+58+40+76+83+82+84= 507 map6.9 games finished
Dota7    = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6 = 49+40+32+53+48+45+53= 320 map7.0 games finished


Total games played in last 6 days since default map change = 507+320= 827
For sure 5%-20% games are result of default dota7 map autopick on !pub command. 61% games at this moment are dota6.9 while real balance is for sure 64+% for dota6.9. Main question is without this help from !pub command does dota7 have over 30% of total games at all?
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 23:57 by mordor911 »

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2020, 08:34 »
Oh shiet w8, did you just wrote tooshade and robreal are the best dota1 players in current season, ooookeeeeey
 @mordor911 can I know your server acc?
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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2020, 09:39 »
@mordor911 where are my daily dota updates at? Give us the turnover for Dec 11th, please

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2020, 15:50 »
agree to the topic.
Mordor91 is right

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2020, 17:41 »
Same... I agree about everything Mordor911 said.
To be honest, if there is no 6.9 map, many players would already leave this server. And i am sure those players who play 6.9 map, wouldn't switch to 7 if old map goes to history. Only a third of the current number of players would remain on server.

So let's enjoy both maps and keep the old one alive because of the majority who play it.

Just to add... After commands changed, Players got confused... I recived so many messages here and on my cellphone with one question "is 6.9 really dead ?!".

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2020, 18:01 »
Same... I agree about everything Mordor911 said.
To be honest, if there is no 6.9 map, many players would already leave this server. And i am sure those players who play 6.9 map, wouldn't switch to 7 if old map goes to history. Only a third of the current number of players would remain on server.

So let's enjoy both maps and keep the old one alive because of the majority who play it.

Just to add... After commands changed, Players got confused... I recived so many messages here and on my cellphone with one question "is 6.9 really dead ?!".

Welp to agree with everything that mordor said u have to be mentaly retarded (without offend)

Also how about that players wich preffer 7.0 had to use !privobs command for months and noone of u hypocrites complains about that.

Be aware that this server already lost majority of good players due to this and many other stupid decisions.

Fun part 6.83 won the pool against 6.85 and still we switched to 6.85. Now same story 7.0 won pool but welp.



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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2020, 18:13 »
question of the day @mordor911

Why havent all primates evolved into humans?

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2020, 19:06 »
Most players here play since v5.0-6.0 so they think that there is one dota that evolves slightly. I play dota since v3.6 at reign of chaos. Dota always evolved, hereos were removed/added map changed etc.
This is how dota worked since day 1! If Dota didn't evolve then we would still have 30 heroes and a map that looked like the one at 2004.

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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2020, 00:19 »
After 1 week since favoritism of Dota7, here are results for 1000 games played.

- Day7:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 5 pages 150 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
15/30     Draws:  1/1
19/30                 0/1
23/30                 2/0
16/30                 2/2
18/30                 0/2

Draws: Dota6.9 = 5 draws and Dota7 = 6 draws
15+19+23+16+18 = 91/150 Dota6.9 games and 59/150 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 5 = 86 games
Dota7 - draw = 59 - 6 = 53 games


Spoiler for Hiden:










- to1000:

Dota1 6.9 games played since switch, every page has 30 games in total on 2 pages 40 games.  Draw games info is added next to number of games in format Dota6.9/Dota7:
07/12     Draws:  0/1
15/28                 2/3


Draws: Dota6.9 = 2 draws and Dota7 = 4 draws
07+15 = 22/40 Dota6.9 games and 18/40 Dota7 games
Dota6.9 - draw = 22 - 2 = 20 games
Dota7 - draw = 18 - 4 = 14 games


Spoiler for Hiden:



For confused fellas who ask what is Dota7:


ALL GAMES CALCULATED IN THE LAST 7 DAYS SINCE DEFAULT MAP CHANGE
AND AFTER ADVANTAGE  HAS BEEN GIVEN TO MINORITY MAP Dota7
to1000 are taken games from day8 for total of 1000games played statistic.

- Day1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 95 - 11 = 84 games
Dota7 - draw = 55 - 6 = 49 games

- Day2 part1:
Dota6.9 - draw = 67 - 9 = 58 games
Dota7 - draw = 53 - 13 = 40 games
- Day2 part2:
Dota6.9 - draw = 42 - 2 = 40 games
Dota7 - draw = 35 - 3 = 32 games

- Day3:
Dota6.9 - draw = 79 - 3 = 76  games
Dota7 - draw = 61 - 8 = 53 games

- Day4:
Dota6.9 - draw = 88 - 5 = 83 games
Dota7 - draw = 64 - 16 = 48 games

- Day5:
Dota6.9 - draw = 90 - 8 = 82 games
Dota7 - draw = 56 - 9 = 45 games

- Day6:
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 7 =  84 games
Dota7 - draw = 62 - 9 = 53 games

- Day7:
Dota6.9 - draw = 91 - 5 = 86 games
Dota7 - draw = 59 - 6 = 53 games

- to1000:
Dota6.9 - draw = 22 - 2 = 20 games
Dota7 - draw = 18 - 4 = 14 games

Dota6.9 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7+to1000 = 84+58+40+76+83+82+84+86+20= 613 map6.9 games finished

Dota7 = Day1+Day2part1+Day2part2+Day3+Day4+Day5+Day6+Day7+to1000 =
49+40+32+53+48+45+53+53+14= 387 map7.0 games finished


Total games played in last 7 days since default map change with 2 pages to get thousand games played = 613+387= 1000
For sure 5%-15% games are result of default dota7 map autopick on !pub command. 61% games at this moment are dota6.9 while real balance is for sure over 65% for dota6.9. Main question is without this help from !pub command does dota7 have over 30% of total games at all?
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Re: Dota6.9 and Dota7 comparison, statistics and suggestions
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2020, 06:07 »
Most players here play since v5.0-6.0 so they think that there is one dota that evolves slightly. I play dota since v3.6 at reign of chaos. Dota always evolved, hereos were removed/added map changed etc.
This is how dota worked since day 1! If Dota didn't evolve then we would still have 30 heroes and a map that looked like the one at 2004.
Yes Dota1 evolved and 6.90a8 is the last step in evolution, the best dota map created since 2004. And now Dota1 server wants to become kind of Dota2 server to evolve and to that evolution step non-Dota map is official map for Dota1 with 30% of total dota players. This is 2020. with something good, very good which is going to be slowly removed in favor for few individuals who only spam in this topic or insult me or your moderators. Simple separate 2 leagues and let us play our game. Every time someone forget to use L
automatically is created SHIT Dota7 and it takes 30 seconds to create once again while losing players who fill other games.
Those people from Lobbying group only insult or post unrelated spam or use fake account for insulting your Head Moderator - this guy Tyrande, 2 years inactive forum account now comes to insult only, and what was he doing 2 years ago? He was insulting everyone. And bookeyize belongs to someone from this group Happy.. / grga_man / kna / MarvinJunior / nikolagay - all of them only want to eliminate Dota6.9 and Dota6.9 players and they are officially supported, few people got support over the majority of people who just play the game and the most of Dota6.9 players do not visit forum. The real measure of current situation is in games and players and it is much above 500 Dota6.9 players and bellow 200 Dota7 players on dota.eurobattle.net.
None from Dota6.9 players was against idea to help others who wanted to get rid of !privobs, but why to do damage on our back? Why we have to suffer with huge majority of players and games so minority can be satisfied.
iErnesto94 you are playing 6.9 map as well more often than Dota7, along with everyone from administration team, all of you are Dota6.9 players. Why do you play 6.9 if Dota7 is the next step in evolution? Because there are not enough players for Dota7 and because you like Dota6.9. The majority of players who provide 1000 dota games every week will slowly leave because when they come there is not always possible to start the game, so they go to play something else and not dota. Ask Dota6.9 players what do they think about removing the map and placing Dota7 as default map and entire picture will be much more clearer.
agree to the topic.
Mordor91 is right
Same... I agree about everything Mordor911 said.
To be honest, if there is no 6.9 map, many players would already leave this server. And i am sure those players who play 6.9 map, wouldn't switch to 7 if old map goes to history. Only a third of the current number of players would remain on server.

So let's enjoy both maps and keep the old one alive because of the majority who play it.

Just to add... After commands changed, Players got confused... I recived so many messages here and on my cellphone with one question "is 6.9 really dead ?!".
Thank you Adm1n and Sejtura for support. Sejtura agreed about how many players would remain on server, situation with custom games and other servers is not known to me, but half of players and above 60% of games will be vanished if this situation does not change. It is really shocking to overtake main dota command for the game creation from the majority of people where new map could have !pubn or !pub7.
Your Patreon supporters are Dota6.9 players cicibucna/zdrabranding , phaq , sejanus, all Patreon supporters are Dota6.9 players, only iErnesto94 is playing both maps.
Make it be like it was before and give a new separated league to Dota7 so we can all be happy again and equal.
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