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Offline Jokesonyou

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Complaint about Sejtura
« on: October 30, 2020, 21:51 »
Quick question for all the people that can ban/unban people.If the whole team agrees to kick someone from the team(for afking in the jungle in my case),then posts a ban requests for the whole team,what do you do?
You ban the whole team?
I understand that the guy who swore gets banned,but really,why me?I didn`t even say anything bad to him.
If kicking is forbidden maybe its time this function is to be removed,eh?
Seriously,this has to be the stupidest reason i have ever been banned in my life.Instead of taking action against the guy that did something bad,he bans his whole team?
I can only think that it is his friend or that he doesn`t care about the players and he is banning left and right.

The link to the post:
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php/topic,198180.0.html

(link of the game is on the post)

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2020, 22:15 »
https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php/topic,1425.0.html#post_ingame

8. Player must not abuse bot commands:

      a) Votekick Abuse
          - The !votekick command should only be used against players who are ruining the game intentionally by feeding on purpose, exposing or destroying items, abusing bugs/cheating, obstructing allies etc.
          - Starting a votekick and voting !yes against an innocent player may lead to a ban.
          - Starting a votekick against yourself is allowed.
      Note: Sanctions only apply if the innocent player was votekicked.
      b) Spamming !votekicks
          - Spamming the !votekick command against innocent players may lead to a ban.
      c) Votecancel Abuse
          - Abusing the !votecancel command to stop a justified votekick may lead to a ban.

These are the rules... Player lost PSR because he was votekicked ( without any reason ) from the game.
I gave ban sanction to every player that broke this Ingame Rule.
Also i am glad you posted here, so for the future you would know the rules.

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2020, 22:24 »
 he wasn't an innocent, you don't even move your ass "sorry for my word" to check the game to find out who is right and just bun 7 people. probably is your friend i can't see another reason why you ban 7 people!!

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2020, 22:43 »
He was not innocent.
If you would actually look in the chat you would see that first of all i didn`t want to kick initialy,then i said yes.Second of all,our team complained that he was afk in the jungle and clearly not listening and communicating.
I would like you to answer me this:
Jungling the whole game and not listening to teammates is being called being innocent?

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2020, 22:57 »
i watched replay... Also he is not my friend. He was not AFK, i agree he was creeping some time, though that lead your team to victory. He did not refuse to def towers, he was always around.

You votekicked him at the very end of game... Game was already 5v4 , it was easy win...

Also i banned every single player who broke Votekick rule during that game and wrote bellow what you should do if you don't agree with my decision. I wrote that because this way you will know the rules and i hope you won't do it again.

I am willing to change your sanction. From now on you know you shouldn't votekick easilly.

Post Unban request and i will change your sanction.

Also i won't change sanction for player which broke this rule more than once.

justangel  - [!banned 10 days - Command abuse 2nd time!] in game [Ap +1 !! last slot 9/10].

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2020, 22:59 »
There is a big difference between being AFK, creeping and refusing to play...

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2020, 23:05 »
Sejtura can you change my sanction too?

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2020, 23:10 »
Thank you for your time.I will take great care in voting to kick from now on,since the jungling subject seems sensitive to prove whether it is a good thing for the team or not,or any subject on that matter.
I don`t want to continue this,but your knowledge about DotA is questionable at best.
So let`s agree to disagree,i still think it`s not the right decision,and you still think you acted according to rules.
Maybe we both have to learn something from this in the future.

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2020, 23:44 »
Your sanctions were changed.

Please respect Server, Rules and other Players.

Enjoy the Game

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2020, 23:46 »
Waiting for High Staff member to close this topic if everything is OK.

@ksv @iErnesto94

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2020, 02:04 »
Hello some tips to change for the better in the future , If you guys think to report him, and when talk with respect / good attitude wouldn't reach here.

How Moderator!?


Tips to easily report him for refused to play or Anti-TeamPlay with team Enough to ban him 2 days or 7 days, I was about ban him too but after all insults/kicked with him nothing to do with him , As I know him makes bad build for heros(could get ban for that)

An example me with players are low skills

https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6329446

which player deserve a ban? el_pasajero(BS) with that items?

blakchole sleep in jungle, I was mad that time, but I don't take any actions, Why?

Game is for fun, not serious..

 e) Refusing to play
          - Avoiding team fights, pushes, defending will be considered as Anti-Teamplay.

Wanna know why? Sejtura ban all of them

@Jokesonyou & @admiralmd


instead of reporting him


Votekicking a player for no reason is against rules so all of them deserve a ban & warn + insulting &  family related flame.

Reil(Chat logs) - @HI][MAN if you keep break rules our server.,  it'll lead you to permanent ban.
Spoiler for Hiden:
23:47    Reli    [Allies]    come with us
23:49    Reli    [Allies]    stupid cent
24:01    BlackKevlar    [Allies]    yeah sure coz you asked me so nicely
24:10    Reli    [Allies]    i asked ur mom that kind too
24:13    Reli    [Allies]    stupdi whore
24:14    Reli    [Allies]    born you
24:16    Reli    [Allies]    retarded
24:18    BlackKevlar    [Allies]    good than go alone
24:22    Reli    [Allies]    !ignore kevla
24:25    Reli    [Allies]    ofc we will go
24:29    Reli    [Allies]    u monkey
24:31    Reli    [Allies]    retarded
24:33    Reli    [Allies]    brainless shit
28:52    Reli    [All]    look how is stupdi that dog
29:43    Reli    [All]    say ty to centaurs mom
29:49    Reli    [All]    stupid bitch whore slut
29:58    Reli    [Allies]    kick him
30:02    Reli    [Allies]    or i quit

EDIT: Another one report more - https://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php/topic,198185.0.html

Really take some time to think about why you did what you did so you can begin to move on. Apologize and explain. If your decision hurt anyone else, the best thing you can do is apologize and explain. Don't offer excuses or try to play down the situation in any way.
Is it good to say sorry?  "I'm sorry" fixes everything right away, it might take a while for realize what you did

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2020, 08:31 »
Nothing to add.
Lag Abuse

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2020, 19:34 »
I will add an allchat reminder after !votekick command is issued that will print out this rule.

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Re: Complaint about Sejtura
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2020, 01:13 »
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