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Observers
« on: March 24, 2020, 17:13 »
When are you going to add observers to the game?

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Re: Observers
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2020, 17:20 »
When are you going to add observers to the game?
Actually pretty good idea to be able to enter and observe the game anytime ofc with one or two min delay so players wont reveail the positions via whisp

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Re: Observers
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2020, 17:31 »
I support, would be good but i think too hard to make technically

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Re: Observers
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2020, 17:45 »
Maybe a official bot which joins game at start and streams to twitch or youtube

But i think not hard to see stream to know for example that enemies go roshan

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Re: Observers
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2020, 19:26 »
u kidding me right? allowing real-time obs its like making someone dictator and assuring people he will lead in the right way lol. that should never happen cuz u will never know if someone is cheating or not and ofc everyone will be tempted to do it

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Re: Observers
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2020, 20:47 »
1. The obs slots can lag and ruin other ppl's games. Pretty sure 99% of the people would rather not take the chance of having lag screen from obs slots
2. Obs slots were given in the past for streaming and all it did was people blaming the obs player for lagging, therefore taking it as an excuse for their loss.
3. Obs slots can be friends of one or more of the players who are playing that game and giving the them information about their enemy, such as where the enemy is currently located, their ward spots, when they smoke, when they rosh etc.

This suggestion would have worked if obs slots were independent from actual player slots and they had like a 5 min delay from the actual game so they wouldn't "cheat".
About 10 years ago Stefos007 tested unlimited observer slots in SS games and it didn't really work, so that's out of the question as well.

I'll let this this thread open to give the chance if someone else wants to comment about this, otherwise I personally don't think this whole thing is ever going to work.

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Re: Observers
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2020, 20:30 »
I think that unlimited obs actually worked but was never finished. But yeah, you would probably have to:
a) remove all lag screens if lagger is in OBS, basically ignore that player
b) somehow delay the packets for like a minute at least.

Not that easy to implement in bot for sure.

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Re: Observers
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2020, 12:04 »
Good idea, but even if you locked whisper on the Observers they still can communicate through third-party softwares such Discord,Teamspeak etc.

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Re: Observers
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2020, 12:10 »
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Re: Observers
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2020, 13:58 »
I think that unlimited obs actually worked but was never finished. But yeah, you would probably have to:
a) remove all lag screens if lagger is in OBS, basically ignore that player
b) somehow delay the packets for like a minute at least.

Not that easy to implement in bot for sure.
or just make less vote needed for players in 11-12th slot? not sure if its possible tho
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Re: Observers
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2020, 15:35 »
Less vote to kick observers shouldnt be hard, i think players are indexed in game order inside bot.

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Re: Observers
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2020, 16:46 »
I think that unlimited obs actually worked but was never finished. But yeah, you would probably have to:
a) remove all lag screens if lagger is in OBS, basically ignore that player
b) somehow delay the packets for like a minute at least.

Not that easy to implement in bot for sure.
b seems hard work on server side more than bot, disconnecting player from pvpgn server seems better solution. And showing same ip's with a command would be nice to see if someone is using 2 pcs. I think its good feature specially in between friend games. People still can play without obs in normal pubs anyway. In other server you can have obs but since its not pvpgn he cant whisper anyone.
cen update the map please

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Re: Observers
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2020, 17:40 »
its not big deal to kick people from pvpgn if they are observers, very easy to do. But there is discord or skype, voice chats to spoil positions

only real solution is 5 minutes delay or so, so packets sent to observers need to be delayed and their packets ignored or something which is harder to do but should be manageable