I said it once, I'll say it a hundred times more. Remove KDA altogether.
Removing K/D/A seems like the best solution , we had several discussion , and agreed more or less on that
players who are noobs wont stop picking trax,sniper or mort even after that belive me. they should stick to their level once and for all and the way to do that is to create a league like ihrl or ss where everyone can be part of it to learn dota basics,only then we will have decent games around here.
From what I saw, there are still games for better players with at least over 1500 PSR. Imagine next season no KDA and you guys get in team herkules21, joda, ...who get some positive PSR and in another team are 5 players with top 100 potential. Hosting better games will take even more time because host will have manually to check each player on stats page to get higher quality game, while noob games will be much faster as no one will be checked. So question here is how many players will leave server shortly after this change since game quality will drop drastically and everything will become wild zone.Also with latest maps game experiece is drastically improved, compared with icefrog maps that are used for years in past and where was more focus on raging, flaming and depression and on single carry or tank who is raping other team since 1st minute, here is content and gaming experience more than satisfied for players, it depends on both individual and teamwork quality and now idea with removing k/d/a will most likely kill good games and focus will be even more on stucking with known players where everything will end up on more unbalanced games.Quote from: ilikedat on March 17, 2020, 10:35players who are noobs wont stop picking trax,sniper or mort even after that belive me. they should stick to their level once and for all and the way to do that is to create a league like ihrl or ss where everyone can be part of it to learn dota basics,only then we will have decent games around here.SS and IHRL was 2 toxic leagues based on few individuals who had main purpose to rage and insult on forums and in games when they are failing most of their games. Most of problems in pub games came from them and it is well known they are rage quiting much more games than pub players, going mid from start, dying and screaming, then when some random average player literally rape them, from all that rage they are leaving and letting teammates to play 4v5 and to have hard time just because of those individuals. About low players to learn how to play, that is harder question since there are so many individuals with incurable complexes about items and strategy. For example top players will say that item is very bad on that hero performed by average player and that very same top players are getting raped just because their brain is limited. This was proved thousands of times. But again some items are not for all heroes or better to not have at all, like dagon5 on gondar vs mortred who can get good items and can improve hp so gondar is considered here as -1 for his team..
For example we can say every kill is 2 points, every death is -1,5 and assists for 1 point then everybody will have KDA score. We can balance that score for better balance games.
Basing balance solely on KDA is no comment, so let's just stop cross off that suggestion.Removing KDA is questionable. I could see showing KDA only to yourself and not to others when they check your stats but this smells like hackery. A lot of times bad KDA is a sign of bad players, do we want to hide that?It would be easy to remove if we get consensus though.
Quote from: cen on March 18, 2020, 23:32Basing balance solely on KDA is no comment, so let's just stop cross off that suggestion.Removing KDA is questionable. I could see showing KDA only to yourself and not to others when they check your stats but this smells like hackery. A lot of times bad KDA is a sign of bad players, do we want to hide that?It would be easy to remove if we get consensus though.Like I mentioned in the other topic there was no KDA in the past and people still were addicted to having as many kills as possible, so this won't change nothing.Extra PSR for support, or high assists wouldn't be so bad, but surely can't be implemented.What about displaying only (kills + assists) / deaths score?
Quote from: Sejanus on March 19, 2020, 13:33Quote from: cen on March 18, 2020, 23:32Basing balance solely on KDA is no comment, so let's just stop cross off that suggestion.Removing KDA is questionable. I could see showing KDA only to yourself and not to others when they check your stats but this smells like hackery. A lot of times bad KDA is a sign of bad players, do we want to hide that?It would be easy to remove if we get consensus though.Like I mentioned in the other topic there was no KDA in the past and people still were addicted to having as many kills as possible, so this won't change nothing.Extra PSR for support, or high assists wouldn't be so bad, but surely can't be implemented.What about displaying only (kills + assists) / deaths score?do u know that in the past players were used to get banned for being pros in noob games? like Cen said thank god we have something to meter the level of the players and u guys wanna remove that also
Extra PSR for support, or high assists wouldn't be so bad, but surely can't be implemented.
displaying only (kills + assists) / deaths score