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Try another ranking system
« on: December 09, 2018, 18:57 »
Hey there, sorry for disturbing you but i have something to say.
Our ranking system needs an update....i mean there are 1600/1650 psr players that are clueless noobs, they get 1650 psr with bad scores and when game is balanced by the host you can get ''high psr noobs'' with you and GG, all i want to say is that balancing the games here on this server sucks.
Can you try another way of ranking the players....maybe by their stats and wins only?

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2018, 19:14 »
I agree stats are misleading in 90% cases but there are some hints to tell if a player is decent, check his deny creeps, if he has 8+ per game it means he is a professional. Another hint is when one has'ibalgin' letters in his nickname, that means it's a wannabe professional.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2018, 19:26 by begin »

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2018, 20:18 »
i've played a lot of games where the players have more than 1650 psr, host balance the game and on your team you have high psr players that are actually very bad (many of them are arrogant retards and have no sense of the game) and on sentinel there are high psr players that are actually very good (you can check by the stats) and its 50/50, but is it 50/50 its up to you to decide, anyway i end up losing the game as i expected.
PS: when you play a game with low psr players, then host balance the game and in your team you have 1450 psr players with 3-4 kills per game and the pick carry and fuck up, but on the other team there are 1450 psr players that have 6kills 6deaths, who do you think will win?
Ok i wont comment anymore, just take my opinion seriously, thx and bye.

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2018, 20:25 »
The best you can do is check each player's stats in lobby and decide if you wanna play like that. Hosting your own game does the job.

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2018, 21:20 »
@BaKiBaKiBaKi
Do u have any suggestions or ideas on how would you rank the players, if it makes sense , we can discuss it without problems.

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2018, 22:01 »
Is not this just a game? How do you expect someone to learn the game if you are constantly kick him from game. Because of the players who play for PSR and not from FUN this game will die soon because there are no new users. Only because of the arrogant and confident players. Dont forget that this is a game where several factors depend. You need a perfect computer and with this perfect internet, keyboard, mouse, that nobody bothered you from the typed, etc. Not all of them have that, dont forget. We dont live in the perfect world. Learn to play for fun, and for others dont worry about those who are in charge of it.
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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2018, 23:01 »
I agree it became a problem lately, we need to do something with it finally. If you have suggestion, post. Otherwise i got some idea, will make calculations and create topic for admins when i have time

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2018, 06:45 »
Extra psr if you have 15+ denied creeps.
Minus psr if you have less than 5 denied creeps.
Extra psr if you have 22+ assists.
Minus psr if you have 12+ deaths.
Extra psr if you have less than 6 deaths.
Minus psr if you have less than 5 kills.
No extra psr to those who have a lot of kill cause people will only play for kills.
Extra psr if you have bought 8+ wards.
I know that all of this is not that much related to my comments above but this can change the game, with all these extra psr people could actually do some small things in the game that can lead to a victory and players will be ranged by the stats they make.
Just my opinion, dont judge me :)))
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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2018, 07:46 »
I think that's to hard to implement and open to bugs. A better way would be to modify the !balance formula in order to include stats (currently its variables are only the players' psr). It was discussed before. I proposed something. The topic should be somewhere here, in general board.
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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2018, 07:54 »
I think that's to hard to implement and open to bugs. A better way would be to modify the !balance formula in order to include stats (currently its variables are only the players' psr). It was discussed before. I proposed something. The topic should be somewhere here, in general board.
Balancing the game considering Kills,Deaths,Assists , and creeps. Thats good , real good.
Extra psr if you have 15+ denied creeps.
Minus psr if you have less than 5 denied creeps.
Extra psr if you have 22+ assists.
Minus psr if you have 12+ deaths.
Extra psr if you have less than 6 deaths.
Minus psr if you have less than 5 kills.
No extra psr to those who have a lot of kill cause people will only play for kills.
Extra psr if you have bought 8+ wards.
I know that all of this is not that much related to my comments above but this can change the game, with all these extra psr people could actually do some small things in the game that can lead to a victory and players will be ranged by the stats they make.
Just my opinion, dont judge me :)))
There are different Roles. What u suggested is plausable for Supports. But not even fully for them, since in "good" games, if you can save your carry [you're playing any other role] you should. That means dying instead of him.
Also expected Carry to Ward. Etc Etc. You get what i want to say.

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2018, 12:52 »
Think anything, without auto host system it wont be reliable
cen update the map please

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2018, 16:33 »
And you want autohost system?

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2018, 16:48 »
And you want autohost system?
I only want updated map I dont cate about the rest just saying Solo Q is necessary if you want a balanced ladder
cen update the map please

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2018, 16:49 »
Don't know how to make a  balanced ladder, but i think i know how to make a balanced game

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Re: Try another ranking system
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2018, 16:53 »
Don't know how to make a  balanced ladder, but i think i know how to make a balanced game