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Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« on: November 04, 2016, 22:21 »
1: Your ingame nickname?
outofmind
2) Moderator's nickname (as in subject).
Renovatio
3) Why you are not happy with Moderator's decision / behavior.
Render bad decision, personal judgement. He wanted to ban me so bad so he broke rule to do that. Did not know he is able to do that. Obvious power abusing.
4) Forum link / Game link.
Renovatio playing Dota often but he is not so good player. In one game he was too arrogant so I ignored him. He took that personally and just waited to ban me on some point. It's ok to ban me if i break the rules but I DID NOT BROKE ANY RULE. I will provide you with all details bellow.

Link of the game where he threatened me:
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5981039

16:47   OutOfMind   [Allies]   such/a/bad/player
16:51   OutOfMind   [Allies]   medusa/picker
17:01   OutOfMind   [Allies]   when/we/take/3/carry
17:04   OutOfMind   [Allies]   he/took/medusa

17:05   -Renovatio.   [Allies]   yea mate, now you are gonna piss me off?
17:08   OutOfMind   [Allies]   no/sence (my typo error but he started to be arrogant instant)
17:12   OutOfMind   [Allies]   nah

17:17   -Renovatio.   [Allies]   and learn some english
17:28   -Renovatio.   [Allies]   if you are gonna talk to me
17:34   OutOfMind   [Allies]   !ignore reno

He posted few light flames on chat but it's ok. He was nervous, we were loosing (if i did not ignored him i would for sure at that point).

Then he clearly stated what he is about to do:
19:50   -Renovatio.   [Allies]   but he will post unban req soon (talking about me)
19:58   -Renovatio.   [Allies]   since he si doing it often

Then he stated to ALL on chat about me:

23:08   -Renovatio.   [All]   Ive ignored slark
23:11   goodbyeCharlie   [All]   haha
23:14   OutOfMind   [All]   garant/ima/nesto/da/mi/napravi (i talk to goodbyecharlie on serbian about how renovatio will put me some ban for no reason)
23:15   -Renovatio.   [All]   dont know what he is talking about
23:16   OutOfMind   [All]   na/acc (on my account)
23:19   -Renovatio.   [All]   he is kinda dumb
23:23   -Renovatio.   [All]   pissing me off
23:30   -Renovatio.   [All]   will not win the game like that
23:36   -Renovatio.   [All]   and he asks unban once a week
23:41   -Renovatio.   [All]   next time I will deny it

THIS IS CLEAR POWER ABUSE STATEMENT!
23:41   -Renovatio.   [All]   next time I will deny it

La is not his personal playground and he cannot deny requests that are IN ORDER WITH RULES (or i'm wrong about this). He stated that I ask for "unbann once a week". Pure LIE. Maybe he mistaken me for somebody else. I really don't know about what he talking about. I play A LOT games here lately and on JUST ONE DAY i got twice unrecoverably dropped from GProxy++ :

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=175612.msg621111#msg621111
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=175615.msg621134#msg621134

No rule broken whatsoever. That's all from my unban requests. Also he did not have any business there because hamster931 unbanned me both times. I even PM hamster931 about possible technical cause of that problems.

He remembered me from that game and banned me finally today by Render bad decision based on personal judgement.

Link to forum post where Moderator broke rule:
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?topic=175764.0

That ban request is for game:
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5981308

In that game We ALL agree to kick mortred because she was Feeding and refusing to play with team. I see Reno checked replay because he stated in response on that request:

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Got kicked after you failed to notice your teammate being chased by slark. Maybe you didnt helped in purpose but we can never know. Mostly you were kicked for failing, no rules broken by you, so:
(You can't see that on chat, he was so interested in that game that he watched reply)

no rules broken by you == WRONG

player infam0us (mortred) violated rules and we agreed to kick him. Rules that are broken are:
1. Sabotaging Teammates, feeding, game ruining
2. Avoiding team fights, pushes, defending and similar in order to lose

Even in that post Renovatio stated Maybe you didnt helped in purpose but we can never know and that is pretty much same as rule two.

Also player infam0us flamed me on family base.

26:34    OutOfMind    [Allies]    this
26:36    OutOfMind    [Allies]    mort
26:38    OutOfMind    [Allies]    so/tarded
26:46    Infam0us    [Allies]    Your mother is retaded

So Renovatio watched reply, saw me in that game and he broke rule by banning me. Also he banned six other players for no reason. In same post he stated that he will also ban player "speedisperfect" (he was alchemist) but he did not ban only him. Maybe he is his friend?

I don't wanna spam but that is JUST NOT OK. Maybe I'm wrong and this server is private playground of some people. In that case HF i will not play here anymore.

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2016, 22:24 »
Ok. Make me a summary, pls, is to much to read.
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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2016, 22:32 »
Summary is that you rendered bad decision based on personal judgement.

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2016, 22:47 »

I played Mortred and we picked 5 carries! I was mid with Sniper and he actually sabotage me with run back and won't let me to blink on him for escape. Also his friend Medusa steal neutral in forest on purpose. I didn't sabotage and was ok just didn't saw Slark when he come on Naix so what? I was 1-5 but still its nothing we played without support. Go cry now bitch!

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2016, 22:51 »
He ruining from start. Feeding and staying back always.

11:34      [All]   GeNocidE[Ro] killed Infam0us
12:45      [All]   DotasizBirgeece killed Infam0us
19:54      [All]   GeNocidE[Ro] killed Infam0us

26:34   OutOfMind   [Allies]   this
26:36   OutOfMind   [Allies]   mort
26:37   reis2   [Allies]   ]ahahah
26:38   OutOfMind   [Allies]   so/tarded
26:39   JerryCC   [Allies]   mort ebi se
26:42   ManokeRRR   [Allies]   !votekick inf
26:42      [All]   [ManokeRRR] voted to kick [Infam0us] [1/7]

At minut 26 while they killing hes teammate next to him he just watched that with no help (if he joined fight we they could kill enemy). If we did not kicked him we would loose.

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2016, 22:58 »
lol bro What are you using please tell me? I want to it ;D
you kicked player without reason(votekick abuse)

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2016, 22:58 »
Mate, I've watched replay... Calm yourself and let me read your initial post so I can give you my feedback. Btw, I always try to find a reason to deny ban req for votekick abuse to avoid banning so many players. Posting unban request would be enough to get you unbanned since it was just 1 day ban and you dont have to many warns; there was no need to write a novel and, if you want to get someone's attention, than I suggest you do it in less words so they actually read what you have to say.
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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2016, 23:01 »
all this writting about 1 day ban for votekick abuse? I vote unban him he put too much effort.
I was confused with this, and it was not only once, but it happens from time to time to /w wrong bot. If it was changed to la-custom or custom-la everyone would understand why is like that. But like this you must to read on forum to understand, even if you don't understand..

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2016, 23:02 »
Ban was fair. Kicking a player because you think he isnt good isnt allowed.

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 23:05 »
Ok, if you all think it is because we actually did broke rule then fine. Reno, you always did good decisions but this time i assumed you had some feedback. Did not wanna spam nobody.

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2016, 23:07 »

I offer u to play 5 games 1vs1 if u beat me only once allow u ppl to lock all my accounts permanently.

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2016, 23:11 »
Nah, I'm not so great player like you mort. No need to do that. HF, you got what you wanted. Sorry Reno but i just really hate when i see abuse (wherever it is) maybe i was wrong in this. HF all.

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2016, 23:16 »
you still might get unbanned, and I voted for it.

I doubt renovatio was wrong though. But thinking someone hates you and wasting time to write all this because of 1 DAY BAN FOR VOTEKICK still amazes me :D
« Last Edit: November 04, 2016, 23:24 by Akuma »
I was confused with this, and it was not only once, but it happens from time to time to /w wrong bot. If it was changed to la-custom or custom-la everyone would understand why is like that. But like this you must to read on forum to understand, even if you don't understand..

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2016, 23:18 »
Lol i don't wanna get unbanned if I'm wrong. Thank anyways  :P

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Re: Complain about B&U Moderator <Renovatio>
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016, 23:25 »
Well it's a principle. There are many kind of us, you should never be surprised ;D