Yes, until 6.12. In other words, until IceFrog got in charge, it was still old (probably Guisoo's) hero.And that is my point. Guinsoo was collecting and introducing new stuff while IceFrog was focusing on balacing.You can find more heroes or skills that got nerfed a lot.I could complain that Void used to have global 2.5 seconds long stun that affected building as well.Now the spell has 425 radius while it used to affect area of 15000 x 15000 units. Lame ability, isn't it?
I didnt play back then, but ive heard about A milion things In the older versions of dota, A lot of which were unbalanced/overpowered. To play visage properly, u have to use familiars well, and micro ur hero in the meantime, a task too difficult for most dota players. The hero itself is nice, nerfed quite A bit recently tho, so it aint really played A lot.
Guinsoo collected most of the DotA maps available by that time (no main developer, non protected map) and merged them into DotA AllStars, added new stuff, recipes, Roshan and more.I know there were more ppl around but w/e.Guinsoo was literally known for bad balancing tries!Well, you can say he maybe did some good decisions between 5.84 and 6.12, yet he was there from 3.xx version.Still, IceFrog did the balancing thing after he took over the map.Later IceFrog went a different way and made the game somehow faster, boosting some heroes and nerfing others. Yet still, it was IceFrog who balanced the game.How can you say that, if I understand you correctly, that Chrosphere is stronger version of Black Hole?If you want to compare these 2 skill, we can.Chrono does 0 dmg while Black Hole up to 600 to each affected hero.In Chrono, only 1 affected hero can act. One of ten. In Black hole, any Enigma's allies can act.Chrono has cooldown of 110 seconds, 60 with Agha.Black hole with agha does extra dmg of Midnight Pulse at current level.Chronosphere, as you said, can't be canceled but Void can be stunned or disabled as well, making Chronosphere useless same as when Black hole gets interrupted.Void doesn't need blink dagger to cast good Chrono but he does need gold to do some damage.Enigma needs blink dagger to cast good Black hole and does not need any other items.This being said, shows that Black Hole is more powerfull or usefull than Chrono. Thus nerfed by having longer cd.It isn't absurd.I would add one thing, Black Hole was once improved - when it stopped damaging allies.
Quote from: CoMMoN1337 on September 12, 2016, 17:57visage is a shit hero, always has beenat times it was ok, never goodJust because you never learn that hero doesn't mean it was shitty, he used to had the current Mercurial 3rd skill before it was nerve (which is 28% damage reflecting,regardless of range and go through bkb).
visage is a shit hero, always has beenat times it was ok, never good
1. Max dmg is at the center only, ofc. The spell itself still does dmg, unlike Choro. Plus Enigma can cast Midnight pulse (or just have Agha) to add extra dmg.2. Void in Chrono still can get hurt. He can run, yes. He either use Time walk to get in right position to ulty or keeps it for escape. Or has to buy Dagger which counters your point that Void needs 0 gold, while Enigma needs over 2k.3. I wouldn't say that Chrono is used just to initiate. Chrono takes some time to be cast, giving enemies a chance to blink away or make themselfs invulnerable (especially when you use Time walk to get to the place).Timing is the key and waiting to cast Chrono, instead of initiating with it, can change the outcome of the battle.Black Hole is perfect to initiate with if you can hit "the dangerous" heroes: disablers. You don't need to worry about bkb as Black Hole goes through.Tower won't kill you in those 4 seconds and even if you die after good Black hole, your team should already be in significant advantage.4. I always considered Void a carry and Enigma a support.Main purpose of Enigma is to disable enemy team while your team wipes them out.Carry Void, well, needs more than the blink dagger to do his part.5. And stun can be countered by bkb.Enigma with bkb is basically unstoppable and all the combos you mentioned works as well. Furthermore, there are more combos as Black Hole doesn't disable your allies and drags enemies closer together.
Quote from: LEEKING2005 on September 14, 2016, 16:50Quote from: CoMMoN1337 on September 12, 2016, 17:57visage is a shit hero, always has beenat times it was ok, never goodJust because you never learn that hero doesn't mean it was shitty, he used to had the current Mercurial 3rd skill before it was nerve (which is 28% damage reflecting,regardless of range and go through bkb).ROFLYou are a fucking random clueless insect, you have absolutely no idea about the game, you should not talk about it.
I'll just cut it short: I agree with IceFrog.
You are fools who support retarded icefrog who ruined dota and just leav, cuz of dota2 game for kids.I am aggre with this guy LEEKING2005, this dota is ultra unbalanced... visage, chen, brood, rex, winter... u need to be fkng master to play with that heroes..