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Re: this game must be watched!
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2016, 13:46 »
common , i didnt said this game all players very skilled or all moves good all  things good all items good i just said funny game and happy ending if we analysis this game look pa 's items buriza , fury , domi in 80 min or tide's low skill moves etc .etc. i want to share this coz i impressed when this game finished

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Re: this game must be watched!
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2016, 14:28 »
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/stats/replays/replay.php?mode=2&id=5924827
i will not give link of the game because you must dont know which team is winner . Really very suprising ending.
verry funny , good moves , hard  and long game i think you guys will be fun when watching . i want to hear your feedback about game .
I doubt it, so I took a look at the stats and confirmed my doubts.
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5924827
so what do the stats tell me:

everyone in this game is very bad, dying 12 times or more each, very bad understanding of positioning on both sides

based on lineups sentinel have like 80% to win, very bad lineup on scourge compared to sentinel, scourge's only fucking stun is a wd cask.

now what do the items tell me:

jug lothar instead of dagger, no finished abyssal in 80 minute game, no bkb in 80 minute game, no evasion. very bad

sf no attackspeed, no evasion. no damage either. very bad

ogre correct items, which is surprising considering he's rayallen

lesh lothar instead of dagger, no bkb in 80 minute game, no armor/evasion vs PA. very bad

tide blademail instead of force staff or some other utility item or halberd. very bad

PA no mkb in 80 minute game would normally be horrible, but apparently no one on the other team has any idea of the importance of evasion, so no mkb in 80 minute game suddenly not as important as it would be normally if against players with a brain, however no finished abyssal in 80 minute game, no finished satanic in 80 minute game. very bad

omni absolutely fucking ridiculously bad items, i have no idea what this kid thinks he's doing, i don't even have the patience to say all the wrong things about him cuz there are too many, just a clueless player
his items should be like dagger force halberd vlads cuirass and he has none of them, just clueless

your items were good except for the aghs, it's a very small increase in damage for 4200 gold and an occupied slot, an early veil would do overall more damage in fights if you get to use your spells more than once and it would help you far more early and you can sell it later for a heart, with a heart you could've afforded to bait them into using their spells and time on you and you would make more room for your carry to do damage while still surviving most likely, heart+forcestaff would've been a far better combination of items than aghs+dagger and overall almost same money spent on them, the wasted slot of the aghs and the implications of wasting your time getting it probably in the early-midgame when you could've gotten something better like force or veil are very important and if the game was close near the end as you say, then you can be certain you would've won if you went for veil/force instead of aghs

wd disconnected, but his items are locked as they were before he left, so he didnt have a dagger in a 60 minute game, very very bad, dagger is very important on heroes that have such great ulties as wd so u can just blink in some trees where they dont see u and cast it for full duration in some big fight

pugna correct items, but bad pick, again, sentinel had far better picks
way too many deaths on everyone, especially on the cores



overall in case you're interested of a dota 2 comparison, if this game were a ranked dota 2 game, the level of play of this game is between high 3k - low 4k mmr i guess, but i can't say for sure because i've never been at that low mmr, it could be less but i don't know, probably not less

edit: also, in case you guys don't know, 99% of the dota 2 players are below 4k mmr, which means you guys are better than some 13-14 millions of dota 2 players

however, if you substitute a 5k player in one of the teams in this game on a core hero, he would crush all of you by himself and win the game if his team didn't feed far more than the enemy team while having at most 5 deaths
if you substitute a 6k player in one of the teams in this game on a core hero, he would humiliate all of you by himself and win the game on his own no matter how hard his team fed while having at most 3 deaths or so
if you substitute a 7k player in one of the teams in this game on a core hero, he would humiliate all of you by himself and win the game on his own no matter how hard his team fed while having 0 deaths
if you substitute a 8k player in one of the teams in this game on a core hero, same as above but he would win like 30 minutes earlier than the 7k guy

in short, the difference is immense between a sub-4k player and a 5k+ player, the difference in lvl of play is higher from 4k to 5k than from 0k to 4k

so i guess moral of the story is you guys can say you're better than millions of dota players and be happy, or you can say you are extremely bad players and the amusement of 5k+ players which could win against you while alttabbing whole game and barely dying/not dying at all

i guess that's all

80 minute game.
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Re: this game must be watched!
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2016, 22:14 »
common , i didnt said this game all players very skilled or all moves good all  things good all items good i just said funny game and happy ending if we analysis this game look pa 's items buriza , fury , domi in 80 min or tide's low skill moves etc .etc. i want to share this coz i impressed when this game finished
Well I'm glad you enjoyed the game, you asked for feedback so I gave feedback. :D

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Re: this game must be watched!
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2016, 22:52 »
Common rules, my friends forgive me pls , im so drunk atm after game of the season, i hope we are vest server dta one in the world
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Re: this game must be watched!
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2016, 06:39 »
My forehead is starting to hurt from all of these facepalms

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Re: this game must be watched!
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2016, 11:14 »
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Re: this game must be watched!
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2016, 16:44 »
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/stats/replays/replay.php?mode=2&id=5924827
i will not give link of the game because you must dont know which team is winner . Really very suprising ending.
verry funny , good moves , hard  and long game i think you guys will be fun when watching . i want to hear your feedback about game .
I doubt it, so I took a look at the stats and confirmed my doubts.
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5924827
so what do the stats tell me:

everyone in this game is very bad, dying 12 times or more each, very bad understanding of positioning on both sides

based on lineups sentinel have like 80% to win, very bad lineup on scourge compared to sentinel, scourge's only fucking stun is a wd cask.

now what do the items tell me:

jug lothar instead of dagger, no finished abyssal in 80 minute game, no bkb in 80 minute game, no evasion. very bad

sf no attackspeed, no evasion. no damage either. very bad

ogre correct items, which is surprising considering he's rayallen

lesh lothar instead of dagger, no bkb in 80 minute game, no armor/evasion vs PA. very bad

tide blademail instead of force staff or some other utility item or halberd. very bad

PA no mkb in 80 minute game would normally be horrible, but apparently no one on the other team has any idea of the importance of evasion, so no mkb in 80 minute game suddenly not as important as it would be normally if against players with a brain, however no finished abyssal in 80 minute game, no finished satanic in 80 minute game. very bad

omni absolutely fucking ridiculously bad items, i have no idea what this kid thinks he's doing, i don't even have the patience to say all the wrong things about him cuz there are too many, just a clueless player
his items should be like dagger force halberd vlads cuirass and he has none of them, just clueless

your items were good except for the aghs, it's a very small increase in damage for 4200 gold and an occupied slot, an early veil would do overall more damage in fights if you get to use your spells more than once and it would help you far more early and you can sell it later for a heart, with a heart you could've afforded to bait them into using their spells and time on you and you would make more room for your carry to do damage while still surviving most likely, heart+forcestaff would've been a far better combination of items than aghs+dagger and overall almost same money spent on them, the wasted slot of the aghs and the implications of wasting your time getting it probably in the early-midgame when you could've gotten something better like force or veil are very important and if the game was close near the end as you say, then you can be certain you would've won if you went for veil/force instead of aghs

wd disconnected, but his items are locked as they were before he left, so he didnt have a dagger in a 60 minute game, very very bad, dagger is very important on heroes that have such great ulties as wd so u can just blink in some trees where they dont see u and cast it for full duration in some big fight

pugna correct items, but bad pick, again, sentinel had far better picks
way too many deaths on everyone, especially on the cores



overall in case you're interested of a dota 2 comparison, if this game were a ranked dota 2 game, the level of play of this game is between high 3k - low 4k mmr i guess, but i can't say for sure because i've never been at that low mmr, it could be less but i don't know, probably not less

edit: also, in case you guys don't know, 99% of the dota 2 players are below 4k mmr, which means you guys are better than some 13-14 millions of dota 2 players

however, if you substitute a 5k player in one of the teams in this game on a core hero, he would crush all of you by himself and win the game if his team didn't feed far more than the enemy team while having at most 5 deaths
if you substitute a 6k player in one of the teams in this game on a core hero, he would humiliate all of you by himself and win the game on his own no matter how hard his team fed while having at most 3 deaths or so
if you substitute a 7k player in one of the teams in this game on a core hero, he would humiliate all of you by himself and win the game on his own no matter how hard his team fed while having 0 deaths
if you substitute a 8k player in one of the teams in this game on a core hero, same as above but he would win like 30 minutes earlier than the 7k guy

in short, the difference is immense between a sub-4k player and a 5k+ player, the difference in lvl of play is higher from 4k to 5k than from 0k to 4k

so i guess moral of the story is you guys can say you're better than millions of dota players and be happy, or you can say you are extremely bad players and the amusement of 5k+ players which could win against you while alttabbing whole game and barely dying/not dying at all

i guess that's all

1st of all, you must be kidding when you said sentinal had better lineup, PA + OMNI is golden combo without counter pick or counter item (diffusa). Repel + guardian angel for pa is just kill guarantee in early game, obviously you never saw PA get 20 kill before even lv 11 with this golden combo. This is probably the oldest combo pick in dota history.

2ndly lothar is better than dagger for jugg in this game, cause lothar > silver edge can cancel passive, so it will be able to cancel omni slow or pa miss. Although i think diffusa is the best item given the opposite lineup.

3rdly Tide blademail is ok because it counter zeus and + armor which make him more tanky with his damage reduction passive.

4rdly omni is not that easy to farming gold

Lastly Pugna do had impact in this game if he build his item correctly, his ward can counter leshrac and orge maggi cause their skill use absurd amount of mana. By buying dagon as his 1st item he can combo his decryp + dagon + maledict which can deal insane damage comparable to wd full length ulti. Also he can buy necromicon book level 3 to counter jugg ulti along with his decryp skill.

I can't check the replay since it is obviously downed but my guess the losing cause is pa + omni + zues are noob player, it reflected in their item and also zeus's creep kill. I would say wd is a solid player cause he get good item with such low creep kill.