6.82- Big Patch

[maciekg9-slaveofBart]

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TOO OP VOLVO FIX PLSS

[CoMMoN1337]

Sven aganims is ok if you play him as support but as carry... I still think its wasting of slot and money.

Anyway, need to try that.

You say that as if sven's main role is carry.

Sven was never a carry, his main role (any hero can be played in any way depending on the enemy picks/enemy items/game situation) is at most half-carry/half-support, he has 2 carry skills, cleave and ulti, and 2 support skills, disable and aoe armor+speed. Now he has 2 carry skills and 3 support skills with agha, what does that tell you, that he is a carry ?

Even as a carry, it still wouldn't be a waste of money, just because you are a carry doesn't mean you shouldn't increase your team damage if you have the option. Carries just didn't have this option before, you never saw magina getting an agha upgrade like this did you ? If you did, you would see him buy it. (if he had a brain of course)


Sven was always ok with going for support-like/auras/team items because he already had damage from his ulti, but just because he is sometimes played as a carry doesn't mean his best role is carry.

His best role is a support that deals a considerable ammount of damage, a support that goes in front and tanks damage and spells and most likely dies because the enemy team must focus him, because he does a lot of damage if he is left alone, but in the meantime some real carry or just the other heroes (there's no need to always have a carry in the team) in sven's team can have fun, with the help of sven's stun, sven's aoe armor+speed increase, and now sven's damage boosting to allies ulti with agha, while sven tanks damage/spells and deals/doesn't get to deal some damage because he absorbed many spells/much dps and died. That's sven's best role.


Of course, playing sven as carry works too in some scenarios, but not most because he can be easily mocked, because he is a melee carry without a blink-like spell like magina or void or riki or mortred or slark or xin or walking-through-cliffs ability and ulti that puts you near enemies like spectre or an army of illusions and invisibility like PL etc. that would allow him to easily deal damage with hits, which is why sven works best as a more suicidal support, by suicidal I mean he should play way more aggressively than a support lion for example, because lion should stay safe as long as he can to try to get as many stuns/hexes in the fight as he can, of course lion should also sacrifice his life to save help carry his carry if he can, but he shouldn't go in front like a sven should, you get the ideea I hope.


Adding a huge damage boost to your entire team for 4200 gold cannot be bad, even if the effect for the team was identical as this agha for sven but instead the agha was for spectre - again doing the same thing as what this sven agha does for the team with spectre's ulti remaining unchanged - it would still be a main item, because it improves the team dps by a lot, and it is worth it, regardless of what hero has to get it. (the buildup is also far easier than a radience, and even cheaper, so spectre would be glad to get agha instead of a radience if it were up to him and not to sven)

There's no need to try something to reach the conclusion that it's good or that it's not, if you have enough dota knowledge and a functional brain you should just be able to acknowledge that it's good.

    Vacuum cooldown rescaled from 28.0 seconds to 28 seconds

TOO OP VOLVO FIX PLSS

Cute.

[Rocka]

you should like this song commy

[ColdWorld]

fuck u commy, im lazy to read that shit. XD

[ColdWorld]

Just played 2 games on new patch, impressions...killed godlike sf and kotl support (double kill) and got like 3.3k gold. I dont understand this new bounty system at all.

[Lagi]

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TOO OP VOLVO FIX PLSS

Hah yep i laughed on that mistype too. Also when i red that, when you hovered the mouse over this text, there was some idiotic javascript animation to the text. Nowhere else on the page, except there. Maybe we have found an easter egg.

[CoMMoN1337]

Just played 2 games on new patch, impressions...killed godlike sf and kotl support (double kill) and got like 3.3k gold. I dont understand this new bounty system at all.

I like it this way, it will teach nabs the importance of not overextending after you're ahead, which 99.9% of dota players do.

[ColdWorld]

Just played 2 games on new patch, impressions...killed godlike sf and kotl support (double kill) and got like 3.3k gold. I dont understand this new bounty system at all.

I like it this way, it will teach nabs the importance of not overextending after you're ahead, which 99.9% of dota players do.

True.
Played game, 17 0 with meepo, 25lvl in 27min, went yolo once and almost lost the game (thx God for 5 BoT and split push doto) XD

P.S. cumback is real on this pach, even vs mega and 30k NW diffirence.

[Rocka]

Just played 2 games on new patch, impressions...killed godlike sf and kotl support (double kill) and got like 3.3k gold. I dont understand this new bounty system at all.

I like it this way, it will teach nabs the importance of not overextending after you're ahead, which 99.9% of dota players do.

True.
Played game, 17 0 with meepo, 25lvl in 27min, went yolo once and almost lost the game (thx God for 5 BoT and split push doto) XD

P.S. cumback is real on this pach, even vs mega and 30k NW diffirence.

dude seriously this shit epic, I had this with some lame terrorblade, 0 farm in lane so I was solo when my whole team died, I just pushed tier 2 bot and went for the tier 3 since it took a while. Their sky (14-0) tped in, I happen to kill him, also killed the next 2 who came and then I even finished the tier 3 + racks, epic 5.5k gold in 1 minute

[ColdWorld]

they nerfed it just now, something from 0.5 to 0.38 aoe gold per hero or whatever, anyway you wont get 5k gold in one team fight anymore. (thx god)

Spoiler for Hiden:

Slightly reduced AoE Gold bonus Net Worth Factor for 1 hero kills from 0.5 to 0.38

[ColdWorld]

Big nerf just comes out:

* Kill Streak Bounty from 100->800 to 60->480 (6.81 values are 125->1000)
* Reduced AoE Gold bonus Net Worth Factor for 1/2/3/4/5 hero kills from 0.5/0.35/0.25/0.2/0.15 to 0.26/0.22/0.18/0.14/0.10
* Fixed Dire Ancient spawn box size

[scorpion2001gla]

i think the biggest fucked-up done by the 6.82 patch is the new modification of Phantom Lancer .
the 2nd and 3rd skill , are for me , totally useless , though the 3rd can be good for harassing , but the 2nd offers simply no escape mechanism anymore , and the illusions are shit now .

[ColdWorld]

i think the biggest fucked-up done by the 6.82 patch is the new modification of Phantom Lancer .
the 2nd and 3rd skill , are for me , totally useless , though the 3rd can be good for harassing , but the 2nd offers simply no escape mechanism anymore , and the illusions are shit now .

lol? PL is much better hero now than before.