Best Player

[UltimateTroll]

Stalker- Common v2.0

why my friend nightmare the best rgc/dota2 playa not on the list??trol dissapointed

[maciekg9-slaveofBart]

me unknown nab

[Beckham]

Stalker je najbolji igrac,ovi ostali su sitni svi )

[ColdWorld]

Let's stop trolling each other and let's be serious.

Srsly you think trash guy who have xxxxx acc's, guy who cant reach more than 1550(even on this dead srv) psr by solo playing etc. can be better than NS? He is just trash who talkin too much. Thats it.

I may talk a lot, but I always prove what I say with facts, you on the other hand talk little and with no evidence to support it. My advice to you is to try to find something better to do than being obsessed with me running around in threads that I post. Feel free to ignore it, truthfully I don't care what you do.

1. I'm just posting in every topic on this forum and you cant do nothing about it.
2. LoL wut? Its not true about your xxxxx acc's with holy molly crap K/D/A in trapem games?
3. Accept it, you're just low skilled scum who thinks he is good.


P.S. Its enough to see your mega SF plays on your let's call it "main acc".

[Rocka]

imo ohmygawd best player
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5505869

look at his tiny leaving xDDDDDDDDDD

Anyway ontopic when i play with common he always mid and wins 95% at his lane. great mid player and knowledge, easy gaming.

but n^^s overall best player, he can play any hero in any lane in any setup. Outfarm a game even after 5 deaths in early laning, good map awareness, nice builds and always in every fight etc. insane jukes and probably best 1v1 laner i know

Spoiler for Hiden:

no homo

[ohmygawd]

yeah haha tiny leaving xDDDDDDDD
i had to go eat lunch, too bad idc about dota like you nolifers, keep the tryhardism pls .

[NiGhT^^StAlKeR]

Ok CoMMoN, you seriously made me watch replay to prove something to you.

First, I need to admit that kunka did not have cloak/pt, I forgot, mixed it with another situation.

Now, lets get to my point.

Spoiler for Hiden:

MOMENT UNO:

Spoiler for Hiden:

-Me using stun at 6:37

MOMENT 2:

Spoiler for Hiden:

-Me using TOSS(!!) at 6:43

MOMENT 3:

Spoiler for Hiden:

-Me deciding not to chase (my perspective)  6:47

MOMENT 4:

Spoiler for Hiden:

--Me deciding not to chase (Kunka's perspective) 6:47

Now, lets get the facts straight.
When I decided not to chase, I had 106mana + one bottle charge==~200 mana with one stick i had. Not enough for combo.
Next, lets check kunka's items at that point. He had 357hp and bottle charge and 3 tangos, so after using one tango+bottle, he'd be around 500hp+ in 1-2sec, which if you continue watching replay, is exactly what he did.

Now, check the position of creeps, and his position in fog. It would be almost impossible to get whole 75mana from my bottle, since i'd get hit by something(creeps or tower). Maybe I could get 20-30-40mana max, but that means nothing.

Now, check my cooldowns. I used stun at 6:37 and toss (on Kunka!) at 6:43. Meaning, my stun was at around ~10sec cooldown, and toss around ~6sec cooldown.


So, would you dive under tower in this situation:

Spoiler for Hiden:

1) with 200 mana (IN PERFECT SITUATION, which is almost impossible to get all that mana there next to creeps and tower, so ~130-140 mana is realistic)
2) with haste expiring in like 10sec(since gank lasted long)
3) versus kunka who had 357hp(500hp in 2-3sec cause he used bottle+tango asap)
4) Being in constant fog around his tower, while he has tangos so he can juke you like np around some tree
5) Having toss with around 300+dmg, + 2-3 hits max, dealing 500dmg in PERFECT situation, BUT , check 6)
6) Having COOLDOWN on toss 6sec, stun 10sec
7) Kunka isnt that bad player at all, since i played vs him on mid I knew that he was capable of doing some decent juke

??


If you reply honestly CoMMoN, I'm pretty sure reply would be 'No way, I wouldn't dive'. But if you reply something like 'It was 100% kill', you will just prove once again that you do not match the following criteria:

Spoiler for Hiden:

- And last, but not least, your level of ignorance. You will probably be wrong sometimes, and If you are too self-confident you will not see that. In the other words, ability to learn. No one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. The important thing is will you learn from your mistakes or not.

And one more thing:

Spoiler for Hiden:

2) Yes you did follow me, but our team didn't yes that was the problem there, but anyway the point is, after the game you said it was better to just get rax and b, even though enemy team was stronger than ours and it would've been best to try to end right then and there, even here in your words you reffer to that as an "attempt" which indicates you still don't really believe it was the correct thing to do.
"Small things" ? Irrelevant ? Buddy that "small thing" would've won us the game right then and there 100% if our team followed us, and we ended up losing after not doing it, so of course game deciding things aren't irrelevant.

I said it was better to get rax and b, since our team wouldn't follow us. You didn't understand me correctly. The right thing was all 5 to jump and kill them all. But when we saw our teammates wont do so, RIGHT Thing was to get rax and go back. You understand my point now? In that situation with that response from team, right decision was to get rax. You need to evaluate your teammates's skill also, not just opponents's as you mentioned.

Also, I'd like others to check my post, and tell me what would be your decision in the following situation with tiny vs kunka

P.S. ^ Honest Rocka, thanks for nice words.
P.S.2 Sorry for giga post

Cheers

[maciekg9-slaveofBart]

2nd pic, kka: fuck it, im superman!

[.SaLiH.]

Well, to be honest , I said CoMMoN becouse I don't know , I like him ( I know that most of the server doesn't like him but he's not bad at all I mean personally, he talks he trolls but still he's well mannered imo.)
But if there is such thing as "best player" I would say Stalker since I played with him in IHRL and "PUB" , he was raping in both places ofc  but in IHRL since it was priv game he played seriously ( who knows maybe not so serious). CoMMoN is pro player too imo, at least I've played games with Rocka and CoMMoN. And as rocka said "CoMMoN is good mid player" and I've seen Rocka playing most of the times Support but I've seen him playing carry , still these three players are best in this server if you ask me.(I would add  "Diabol" and "White]Eagle" maybe, as I rembember they weren't bad players at all)

But In my oppinion there is no something like "best player" since DotA is team game ( I think it's like that).But still ofc a player must have those things which stalker said to get the "best" title. I'd add few things (prolly Stalker forget to mention) "timing" is one of the most important thing. I've seen that million times, 0.1 second is important in DotA. Also "tactics" is most important thing imo. But still I will say that DotA is team game, you can't win 5v1 (I know common can but Commy is best of the best no comment about that ).

one thing:

Spoiler for Hiden:

You will maybe ignore my post or idk, you'll say stfu noob or sth like that Idk  But yea Im noob , I wanted to be friends with all of you, even if I was noob. I had friends (there were turks but noobs ) , I couldnt improve myself becouse of playing with them but still Im better than before. I like playing support, I enjoy.I have lags I've thought that becouse of lags I cant play well enough, but I saw that it weren't effecting too much but still I was playing better w/o lags. I don't really know why I wrote this Sorry about that

[CoMMoN1337]

imo ohmygawd best player
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5505869

look at his tiny leaving xDDDDDDDDDD

Anyway ontopic when i play with common he always mid and wins 95% at his lane. great mid player and knowledge, easy gaming.

but n^^s overall best player, he can play any hero in any lane in any setup. Outfarm a game even after 5 deaths in early laning, good map awareness, nice builds and always in every fight etc. insane jukes and probably best 1v1 laner i know

Spoiler for Hiden:

no homo

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=5505828
begin good weaver too.

Just because you don't see me play every hero in every lane setup doesn't mean I don't know how rocky, lmfao . I just don't want to, I don't like it.

I've never seen stalker even once go a nice build , only pussy guide-like/standard builds, and me >>>>>>>>>>> him laning, we can test this in 1v1 mid if you want to see.

Ok CoMMoN, you seriously made me watch replay to prove something to you.

First, I need to admit that kunka did not have cloak/pt, I forgot, mixed it with another situation.

Now, lets get to my point.

Spoiler for Hiden:

MOMENT UNO:

Spoiler for Hiden:

-Me using stun at 6:37

MOMENT 2:

Spoiler for Hiden:

-Me using TOSS(!!) at 6:43

MOMENT 3:

Spoiler for Hiden:

-Me deciding not to chase (my perspective)  6:47

MOMENT 4:

Spoiler for Hiden:

--Me deciding not to chase (Kunka's perspective) 6:47

Now, lets get the facts straight.
When I decided not to chase, I had 106mana + one bottle charge==~200 mana with one stick i had. Not enough for combo.
Next, lets check kunka's items at that point. He had 357hp and bottle charge and 3 tangos, so after using one tango+bottle, he'd be around 500hp+ in 1-2sec, which if you continue watching replay, is exactly what he did.

Now, check the position of creeps, and his position in fog. It would be almost impossible to get whole 75mana from my bottle, since i'd get hit by something(creeps or tower). Maybe I could get 20-30-40mana max, but that means nothing.

Now, check my cooldowns. I used stun at 6:37 and toss (on Kunka!) at 6:43. Meaning, my stun was at around ~10sec cooldown, and toss around ~6sec cooldown.


So, would you dive under tower in this situation:

Spoiler for Hiden:

1) with 200 mana (IN PERFECT SITUATION, which is almost impossible to get all that mana there next to creeps and tower, so ~130-140 mana is realistic)
2) with haste expiring in like 10sec(since gank lasted long)
3) versus kunka who had 357hp(500hp in 2-3sec cause he used bottle+tango asap)
4) Being in constant fog around his tower, while he has tangos so he can juke you like np around some tree
5) Having toss with around 300+dmg, + 2-3 hits max, dealing 500dmg in PERFECT situation, BUT , check 6)
6) Having COOLDOWN on toss 6sec, stun 10sec
7) Kunka isnt that bad player at all, since i played vs him on mid I knew that he was capable of doing some decent juke

??


If you reply honestly CoMMoN, I'm pretty sure reply would be 'No way, I wouldn't dive'. But if you reply something like 'It was 100% kill', you will just prove once again that you do not match the following criteria:

Spoiler for Hiden:

- And last, but not least, your level of ignorance. You will probably be wrong sometimes, and If you are too self-confident you will not see that. In the other words, ability to learn. No one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. The important thing is will you learn from your mistakes or not.

And one more thing:

Spoiler for Hiden:

2) Yes you did follow me, but our team didn't yes that was the problem there, but anyway the point is, after the game you said it was better to just get rax and b, even though enemy team was stronger than ours and it would've been best to try to end right then and there, even here in your words you reffer to that as an "attempt" which indicates you still don't really believe it was the correct thing to do.
"Small things" ? Irrelevant ? Buddy that "small thing" would've won us the game right then and there 100% if our team followed us, and we ended up losing after not doing it, so of course game deciding things aren't irrelevant.

I said it was better to get rax and b, since our team wouldn't follow us. You didn't understand me correctly. The right thing was all 5 to jump and kill them all. But when we saw our teammates wont do so, RIGHT Thing was to get rax and go back. You understand my point now? In that situation with that response from team, right decision was to get rax. You need to evaluate your teammates's skill also, not just opponents's as you mentioned.

Also, I'd like others to check my post, and tell me what would be your decision in the following situation with tiny vs kunka

P.S. ^ Honest Rocka, thanks for nice words.
P.S.2 Sorry for giga post

Cheers

All you had to do was say you had 6 sec cooldown on toss though, you didn't have to make such a long post .

I forgot the order of how you used your skills, I thought you tossed first, who fucking uses stun first , toss has 9 sec cd so you should use that first for it to be off cd again in the fight ...
Of course it doesn't work with 6 sec cd on toss.

[ilikedat]

omg why Jean has 0 votes? he's king of doto 

[1QuestioN!]

Rocky improved quite a lot over the years in all areas, I remember him having decent game awareness from a few years ago, so that's probably why.

I see rocky doing better decisions than stalky ingame lately, but maybe just because stalky not playing seriously just like me. (although I highly doubt that stalky not playing serious, even though he insists on it, since he gets fucking wards at min 0 in pubs XDDDDDDD)

I see stalky making some decisions to go in at times when others wouldn't (he clearly believes in himself, which is always a good thing noobs, regardless of the outcome, remember that, when you think you need to do something don't hesitate and do it, that's one of the reasons you are such low players, you permanently shuffle back and forward instead of making a decision and acting on it instantly, you're slow as fuck) and he ends them well most of the time (mostly because the nabs don't know how to react to sudden "risky decisions" (risky for them, because they're nabs) from the enemy player) and other times he doesn't go for a kill with a fucking haste rune tiny earlygame when there's a 100% kill (what a pussy, geezus XD) very inconsistent plays at times.


Again, as far as I've seen from games with both rocky and stalky in my team, rocky has better game awareness than stalky more often, and stalky has better speed in execution (how fast he does what he decides to do) than rocky more often, decision-making (as in, what to do in a particular situation) kinda equal level or maybe rocky slightly better, reaction times (to sudden changes in the situation) kinda equal level or maybe stalky slightly better, belief in himself I'd say stalky has more, but stalky more stubborn in his own game beliefs too, which means he won't improve as fast as rocky is improving. (some few examples of this, not going in with tiny haste earlygame for a 100% kill because he didn't have enough mana, but he did have a bottle charge which would give him mana and he did have space to use it while chasing, inbetween the towers, or believing a heart makes razor tankier than a butterfly even against autoattackers which have no mkb, or insisting halberd is always better than butterfly, even on carries (who need to attack fast) even though the active is useless on the hero on which you want to use it most of the times because he just gets a bkb etc.)

If I had to choose between rocky and stalky for place 2 on this server (sry nabs, 1 is untouchable XD) I'd say stalky still probably better, but not by much at all, and rocky is improving faster than stalky is, that's for sure, mainly because stalky is more stubborn than rocky (this is a natural byproduct of strongly believing in yourself), he does admit he had unwise decisions, some of the times, but other times he insists they aren't necessarily unwise but "maybe but it depends" or "possibly" even though it's clear they are unwise = he won't learn from those times. (some examples, wanting to destroy rax and then going b when there is a clear opportunity to end the game by getting the throne and when it's much riskier to just go b after rax because enemy team is strong and ours not as much, or sometimes sticking around too much and giving away a big kill streak, or sometimes sticking around too little and missing kills, insisting on a push when he could fight and teamwipe enemies easily, insisting on fighting in complicated situations when he could push easily, etc. general mistakes that pretty much everyone does at some point, but again not actually acknowledging them, some of the times)

How the fuck did this turn into such a long post.

Oh and by the way, there are no other candidates for place 2 here other than rocky and stalky, please don't make me laugh by saying "begin" (owmygad or w/e), learn the difference between actual skill and fake skill (someone who just picks strong heroes which counter most of the enemy picks, making his own abilities irrelevant, and obviously giving good results).

Dude do you rly thinks that someone will read all this xD

[NiGhT^^StAlKeR]

I forgot the order of how you used your skills, I thought you tossed first, who fucking uses stun first , toss has 9 sec cd so you should use that first for it to be off cd again in the fight ...
Of course it doesn't work with 6 sec cd on toss.

I did toss first to kill bloodseeker, before dazzle kill. After that stun on dazzle, then again toss on kunka.

No one uses stun first next to toss ofcourse, 10sec lower cd

So false again xD

[CoMMoN1337]

Rocky improved quite a lot over the years in all areas, I remember him having decent game awareness from a few years ago, so that's probably why.

I see rocky doing better decisions than stalky ingame lately, but maybe just because stalky not playing seriously just like me. (although I highly doubt that stalky not playing serious, even though he insists on it, since he gets fucking wards at min 0 in pubs XDDDDDDD)

I see stalky making some decisions to go in at times when others wouldn't (he clearly believes in himself, which is always a good thing noobs, regardless of the outcome, remember that, when you think you need to do something don't hesitate and do it, that's one of the reasons you are such low players, you permanently shuffle back and forward instead of making a decision and acting on it instantly, you're slow as fuck) and he ends them well most of the time (mostly because the nabs don't know how to react to sudden "risky decisions" (risky for them, because they're nabs) from the enemy player) and other times he doesn't go for a kill with a fucking haste rune tiny earlygame when there's a 100% kill (what a pussy, geezus XD) very inconsistent plays at times.


Again, as far as I've seen from games with both rocky and stalky in my team, rocky has better game awareness than stalky more often, and stalky has better speed in execution (how fast he does what he decides to do) than rocky more often, decision-making (as in, what to do in a particular situation) kinda equal level or maybe rocky slightly better, reaction times (to sudden changes in the situation) kinda equal level or maybe stalky slightly better, belief in himself I'd say stalky has more, but stalky more stubborn in his own game beliefs too, which means he won't improve as fast as rocky is improving. (some few examples of this, not going in with tiny haste earlygame for a 100% kill because he didn't have enough mana, but he did have a bottle charge which would give him mana and he did have space to use it while chasing, inbetween the towers, or believing a heart makes razor tankier than a butterfly even against autoattackers which have no mkb, or insisting halberd is always better than butterfly, even on carries (who need to attack fast) even though the active is useless on the hero on which you want to use it most of the times because he just gets a bkb etc.)

If I had to choose between rocky and stalky for place 2 on this server (sry nabs, 1 is untouchable XD) I'd say stalky still probably better, but not by much at all, and rocky is improving faster than stalky is, that's for sure, mainly because stalky is more stubborn than rocky (this is a natural byproduct of strongly believing in yourself), he does admit he had unwise decisions, some of the times, but other times he insists they aren't necessarily unwise but "maybe but it depends" or "possibly" even though it's clear they are unwise = he won't learn from those times. (some examples, wanting to destroy rax and then going b when there is a clear opportunity to end the game by getting the throne and when it's much riskier to just go b after rax because enemy team is strong and ours not as much, or sometimes sticking around too much and giving away a big kill streak, or sometimes sticking around too little and missing kills, insisting on a push when he could fight and teamwipe enemies easily, insisting on fighting in complicated situations when he could push easily, etc. general mistakes that pretty much everyone does at some point, but again not actually acknowledging them, some of the times)

How the fuck did this turn into such a long post.

Oh and by the way, there are no other candidates for place 2 here other than rocky and stalky, please don't make me laugh by saying "begin" (owmygad or w/e), learn the difference between actual skill and fake skill (someone who just picks strong heroes which counter most of the enemy picks, making his own abilities irrelevant, and obviously giving good results).

Dude do you rly thinks that someone will read all this xD

People who are interested read it, and there are plenty, if you have nothing else to say except "wow long post", you're better off not saying it probably.

I forgot the order of how you used your skills, I thought you tossed first, who fucking uses stun first , toss has 9 sec cd so you should use that first for it to be off cd again in the fight ...
Of course it doesn't work with 6 sec cd on toss.

I did toss first to kill bloodseeker, before dazzle kill. After that stun on dazzle, then again toss on kunka.

No one uses stun first next to toss ofcourse, 10sec lower cd

So false again xD

Whatever, you're still a pussy.

Spoiler for Hiden:

And it's 8 sec cd, not 10, since toss is 9 sec and avalanche 17 sec, nab.

[NiGhT^^StAlKeR]

Whatever, you're still a pussy.

Yea, sure

Now when you can't use those 2 things you insisted on ( tiny fact and rax/kills fact), no arguments left