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Psr changes ?
« on: June 13, 2014, 11:24 »
I think something like this would be liked by everyone.

For example: if you get +5 at win and you win while having a leaver (4v5) you should get +6 instead of +5, if you win while having 2 leavers (3v5), you should get +7 instead of +5, if you win while having 2 leavers and enemy team has 1 leaver (3v4), you should get +6 instead of +5.

The point is it would be nice to reward a victory with a leaver in your team more, since they are very different from the 5v5 wins.(+1 per -1 player, unless +0 at win because it can be abused by playing with full stack of 1800 psr vs 1000 psr)

Of course, there are times, when the one that leaves, actually improve the chances of the team in which he left from, because he had many items and wasn't using them properly for example etc., but most times when people leave they do it because they failed too much and didn't like the game anymore etc.



The same should go for losses like these with leavers (+1 per -1 player, unless -0 at loss obviously because it would be ridicolous to actually gain psr while losing), if at loss you have -5 and if you lose with a leaver (4v5) you should lose -4 instead of -5, if you lose while having 2 leavers (3v5) you should lose -3 instead of -5, if you lose while having 2 leavers and enemy team has 1 leaver (3v4), you should lose -4 instead of -5.

It's much easier to lose in less players most of the time than in 5v5, so you shouldn't lose as much because it's not your fault someone left.



Also this should only take effect around 5-10 minutes after a leave occured, because if someone in your team leaves while you already destroy tree/throne, then you don't deserve the +1 psr, and same if someone leaves while your tree/throne gets destroyed, you don't deserve to lose less, (and this will also prevent abuses) (for example friends playing in same team, 1 high psr and 1 random account of a friend, and the one with random account leaves at end regardless of game scenario, cause if he leaves his friend either gets +1 at win or +1 at loss)

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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2014, 12:33 »
Have not read a sentece...reason is out off all the people on lagabuse and there is many u "sir" are the biggest retard and there is many...congratz ....la staff should do u a favour and ban u from forum and from playing here(allthough that would be harsh but again i say they would do u a favour) your dota gameplay is none the less boring and narcisoide and most important LITTLE ABOVE AVERAGE,,,and your posts i wont even coment them i think if i see one more topic and u are the main charachter in it i will puke and shit myself at the same time...cheers

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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2014, 12:38 »
Also, just to be clear, the +1 psr should be added only when -1 player compared to enemy team, if u win 4v3 in the team of 4 you obviously shouldn't get +1 because you play against fewer opponents, and they should lose 1 less because it's not their fault they have more leavers.

Also, just to be clear, for the ones that play vs a team that has a leaver (examples 5v4 5v3 4v3, in the team of the 5 5 4 etc.) the psr gain shouldn't be changed, since they have no reason to gain less because it's not their fault someone left enemy team, and they have no reason to gain more obviously because fewer opponents.
Have not read a sentece...reason is out off all the people on lagabuse and there is many u "sir" are the biggest retard and there is many...congratz ....la staff should do u a favour and ban u from forum and from playing here(allthough that would be harsh but again i say they would do u a favour) your dota gameplay is none the less boring and narcisoide and most important LITTLE ABOVE AVERAGE,,,and your posts i wont even coment them i think if i see one more topic and u are the main charachter in it i will puke and shit myself at the same time...cheers
Your ideea is ok, but needs a few improvements here and there. Thank you for your contribution, your input is appreciated.

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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2014, 12:47 »
Not a bad idea imho, especially the part that you loose less if you forced to play 4v5 3v5 etc.

To win more if you win 4v5, can be a bit problematic. I had seen many games when a pretty even match got totally fucked up after 1 enemy left at late-mid game. For example if there is a hard carry in the enemy that can win against your team easily with items, but he plays very bad, 0 lasthit, feeding etc. Meanwhile his team defending good, and 1 of them get a very nice farm. Then suddenly he leaves and antimage get shitload of gold/items, after it winning the game in 4v5 for extra psr. Did antimage really deserved that psr? I dont think so.

But lowering the amount of lost psr for leavers team is actually a good idea as i think.
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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2014, 12:59 »
Not a bad idea imho, especially the part that you loose less if you forced to play 4v5 3v5 etc.

To win more if you win 4v5, can be a bit problematic. I had seen many games when a pretty even match got totally fucked up after 1 enemy left at late-mid game. For example if there is a hard carry in the enemy that can win against your team easily with items, but he plays very bad, 0 lasthit, feeding etc. Meanwhile his team defending good, and 1 of them get a very nice farm. Then suddenly he leaves and antimage get shitload of gold/items, after it winning the game in 4v5 for extra psr. Did antimage really deserved that psr? I dont think so.

But lowering the amount of lost psr for leavers team is actually a good idea as i think.
I've seen many games like that too, but there is a difference between many and most.
The number of times that win scenario happens is not that big, since pretty much everyone teamsells, and even if they don't, that am of course still deserves +1, because he was able to carry it with -1 teammate, some extra gold can't replace a human playing another hero casting spells and helping you, even just giving you vision in an area or using them as bait if they are low can be game deciding, all these scenarios are better than a few gold, and if the to-be-or-not-to-be leaver just stays afk in fountain, (that scenario isn't really fair to consider don't you think, since it's bannable to stay afk/refuse to play) even then, he gave the enemy precious time/xp/gold doing that before leaving, so the am should still get +1 if he wins with -1 teammate, even if that teammate leaving helped in the long run.

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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2014, 14:06 »
yea very good idea imo but , coder of la.com bot should tell is it possible or not
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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2014, 17:12 »
yea very good idea imo but , coder of la.com bot should tell is it possible or not
yep that's the main problem,its mega hard to be implemented

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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2014, 20:00 »
bad idea in every aspect that i look at it

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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2014, 20:27 »
bitching around for +1 psr.
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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2014, 22:39 »
no
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Re: Psr changes ?
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2014, 22:48 »
No,why not mrniceguy?please make something to be changed,its not fair,me and common we like to stack good players against 5 random turks,and ofc isnt fair when is psr low,make my team all the time have like 50psr per game and oposite side 1 or -1,that would be nice,thanks