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few questions
« on: November 04, 2013, 03:41 »
this is for war3/tft dota

1. if I buy for Admiral Stygian desolator, does -armor splashes to others ?
2. again Admiral, is splash more effective if in crowd I hit a creep or direct enemy hero ?

3. if I buy for axe blade mail, is it smart to use it during beserker call, this I ask because
if his armor is highened then he gets lesser dmg, so reflected dmg via blade mail is smaller right ?

4. for Yurnero, does Stygian desolator work while spinning ?

5. what do "points" mean, I noticed that for example in Power Treads there is no longer
30% attack speed, but just +30 attack speed, same for Hyperstone, its not % but +points


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Re: few questions
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 07:10 »
this is for war3/tft dota

1. if I buy for Admiral Stygian desolator, does -armor splashes to others ?
2. again Admiral, is splash more effective if in crowd I hit a creep or direct enemy hero ?

3. if I buy for axe blade mail, is it smart to use it during beserker call, this I ask because
if his armor is highened then he gets lesser dmg, so reflected dmg via blade mail is smaller right ?

4. for Yurnero, does Stygian desolator work while spinning ?

5. what do "points" mean, I noticed that for example in Power Treads there is no longer
30% attack speed, but just +30 attack speed, same for Hyperstone, its not % but +points

1. Of course it doesn't that would be ridicolous, it only applies to the original target.

2. Well, use your brain, what do you think it's better to hit for the splash to be more effective, a creep or a davion ? The lower the armor of the original target, the better.

3. Normally it's not so smart, because of 2 reasons, 1 one of them you mentioned it, your armor is bigger so you reflect less damage (but they might not attack you at all if they see you used), and reason 2, they can simply spam H, and regardless of the fact that you did your blademail, they just aren't going to hit you (but you will spin more, since beginning of attack is what is requiered to make axe have a chance to spin, not when the attack hits)

4. When you spin you don't attack, it's just a nuke. So no. You can hit towers while spinning though.

5. Same as with everything, there is the actual points, like strenght points, movement speed points, and % increases. Boots give movement speed points, Eul gives movement speed %, centaur reflects % of his strenght, etc.

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Re: few questions
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 07:38 »
Eul gives +30 pts, not %...
C'mon. Don't mute me.

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Re: few questions
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 17:45 »
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Re: few questions
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 18:39 »
this is for war3/tft dota

1. if I buy for Admiral Stygian desolator, does -armor splashes to others ?
2. again Admiral, is splash more effective if in crowd I hit a creep or direct enemy hero ?

3. if I buy for axe blade mail, is it smart to use it during beserker call, this I ask because
if his armor is highened then he gets lesser dmg, so reflected dmg via blade mail is smaller right ?

4. for Yurnero, does Stygian desolator work while spinning ?

5. what do "points" mean, I noticed that for example in Power Treads there is no longer
30% attack speed, but just +30 attack speed, same for Hyperstone, its not % but +points

1. Of course it doesn't that would be ridicolous, it only applies to the original target.

2. Well, use your brain, what do you think it's better to hit for the splash to be more effective, a creep or a davion ? The lower the armor of the original target, the better.

3. Normally it's not so smart, because of 2 reasons, 1 one of them you mentioned it, your armor is bigger so you reflect less damage (but they might not attack you at all if they see you used), and reason 2, they can simply spam H, and regardless of the fact that you did your blademail, they just aren't going to hit you (but you will spin more, since beginning of attack is what is requiered to make axe have a chance to spin, not when the attack hits)

4. When you spin you don't attack, it's just a nuke. So no. You can hit towers while spinning though.

5. Same as with everything, there is the actual points, like strenght points, movement speed points, and % increases. Boots give movement speed points, Eul gives movement speed %, centaur reflects % of his strenght, etc.
It can work under specific circumstances. There are ways how to "remove" the spinning animation - thus be able to attack and place buffs - while still dealing the damage from spin:
1) Using Manta
2) Being tossed by Tiny

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Re: few questions
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 21:14 »
Eul gives +30 pts, not %...

I have better things to do than check at every lil new version the new stupid modifications icefrog makes at his lil items spectre guy, it was % some 6-7 years ago.

this is for war3/tft dota

1. if I buy for Admiral Stygian desolator, does -armor splashes to others ?
2. again Admiral, is splash more effective if in crowd I hit a creep or direct enemy hero ?

3. if I buy for axe blade mail, is it smart to use it during beserker call, this I ask because
if his armor is highened then he gets lesser dmg, so reflected dmg via blade mail is smaller right ?

4. for Yurnero, does Stygian desolator work while spinning ?

5. what do "points" mean, I noticed that for example in Power Treads there is no longer
30% attack speed, but just +30 attack speed, same for Hyperstone, its not % but +points

1. Of course it doesn't that would be ridicolous, it only applies to the original target.

2. Well, use your brain, what do you think it's better to hit for the splash to be more effective, a creep or a davion ? The lower the armor of the original target, the better.

3. Normally it's not so smart, because of 2 reasons, 1 one of them you mentioned it, your armor is bigger so you reflect less damage (but they might not attack you at all if they see you used), and reason 2, they can simply spam H, and regardless of the fact that you did your blademail, they just aren't going to hit you (but you will spin more, since beginning of attack is what is requiered to make axe have a chance to spin, not when the attack hits)

4. When you spin you don't attack, it's just a nuke. So no. You can hit towers while spinning though.

5. Same as with everything, there is the actual points, like strenght points, movement speed points, and % increases. Boots give movement speed points, Eul gives movement speed %, centaur reflects % of his strenght, etc.
It can work under specific circumstances. There are ways how to "remove" the spinning animation - thus be able to attack and place buffs - while still dealing the damage from spin:
1) Using Manta
2) Being tossed by Tiny
Do you know what spinning means ? Spinning = spinning, if you "remove the spinning animation" then you aren't exactly spinning anymore are you ? You are just dealing the spin damage, which has nothing to do with actually visibly spinning.
Don't get into semantics with me.

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Re: few questions
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 22:21 »
I believe that tsk101 wanted to know if Desolator works while using Blade Fury - even tho he didn't use the spell's name. Why would he ask just about particular animation?!

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Re: few questions
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 22:38 »
-CoMMoM is never wrong. And if he's "wrong" that means all the others are wrong.
C'mon. Don't mute me.

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Re: few questions
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2013, 03:00 »
omgad how dumb u are all zero dota knowledge


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Re: few questions
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2013, 03:42 »
You can read up all the lil facts you want, that's not gonna make you a good dota player.

If I stop playing 20 years and you play continously for that time, I will still easily beat you, and when I say you, don't wonder to which in particular I was referring to, because I am referring to all.

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Re: few questions
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2013, 12:00 »
hello commy, sup

go doto tonight

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Re: few questions
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2013, 12:08 »
Stay ontopic.

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Re: few questions
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2013, 19:37 »
no need to fight :)
thanks for answers

heres 1 more, can anyone confirm if -ah command really works
against newer mh-ers or is useless ?

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Re: few questions
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2013, 21:13 »
no need to fight :)
thanks for answers

heres 1 more, can anyone confirm if -ah command really works
against newer mh-ers or is useless ?

No it doesnt work.

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Re: few questions
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2013, 05:04 »
I believe that tsk101 wanted to know if Desolator works while using Blade Fury - even tho he didn't use the spell's name. Why would he ask just about particular animation?!
I didn't see this post.

Who cares why he would ask just about particular animation, that is what he asked.
Don't provide him with solutions for all the possible alternatives of his thinking pattern if that's not what he said, maybe if you follow this "rule" he will actually learn to say what he wants next time.
Respond to what is written, not what you think is written.