Mortred ' Phantom Assasin ' Build

[[TGF]Abaddon]

i go phase vlads bkb battle furry
later mkb or basher

[FU I am PeNGuiN]

i go phase vlads bkb battle furry
later mkb or basher

trolling?

[[TGF]Abaddon]

no? i prefer vlads over domi

[iNevermore]

no? i prefer vlads over domi

Pubers power 

[[TGF]Abaddon]

have u ever watched internationals i just wonder

and yes i am pubber if u know some good leauge in dota 2 tell me

[iNevermore]

The thing is vladimir is the worst item in dota.. people used to make first item vlad thats worst item choice overall. Moreover people in pubs belive vladimir gives them super powers even bigger than satanic 

In international games venge with vlad is nothing special. But mort with vladimir is just rotfl.

[[TGF]Abaddon]

Do u know xboct ? the carry player of the team who won the last years international and this years 2. check out his build for PA if u like. i am sure this guy is 100x better then you.

http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/navi-xbocts-mortred-build-2029

[div.ide]

And I'm sure his team supports him 100x better than your team supports you.

I'm also pretty sure he's the weakest link in Na'Vi (puppey at least has brain for drafting), and almost every single team had better carry player there.

Aaaaaaaalso I'm pretty sure that statements like "X item on Y hero is pro cause Z player used it in competetive game once" are naive, at very least.

[iNevermore]

Well I know only one thing, Ive played in high ranking games where tactic counts not kills... you can be loosing game but get 1 good teamfight and make finall push.

Back to coveration. True is that not carry wins game, team wins.. or should I say his supports wins game for carry.

Ps. Dota2 is shit.

[[TGF]Abaddon]

ok then explain me why domi on her is better then vlads.

ps. dota2 much better then dota 1 mostly cuz of fixed mechanics easy interface and  more..(imo)

Aaaaaaaalso I'm pretty sure that statements like "X item on Y hero is pro cause Z player used it in competetive game once" are naive, at very least.

u are right. But what i wanna say is i start early with RoB so completing that to vlads always seems better.
ps. i am not always making vlads with RoB.

[div.ide]

More of an individual preference, but I'd rather go early RoB into Aquila, and get Domi because of
a) ancient stacking - godlike farming if you get battlefury along with that
b) Satanic later on - simply stronger late game

Vlads is such a support item, only two exceptions include Lycan and Ursa. But hey, if you're aiming for early Desolator (which has it's uses), then why not, might folow with vlads then.

[[TGF]Abaddon]

Since i am playing pubs noone stacks camps. and i am busy with farming. and i think lifesteal helps laning better then aqulia. And yes i go with deso later for insane damage output.

altough i dont make vlads if somone already makes.. then i switch domi build

[iNevermore]

More of an individual preference, but I'd rather go early RoB into Aquila, and get Domi because of
a) ancient stacking - godlike farming if you get battlefury along with that
b) Satanic later on - simply stronger late game

Vlads is such a support item, only two exceptions include Lycan and Ursa. But hey, if you're aiming for early Desolator (which has it's uses), then why not, might folow with vlads then.

Hardly agreed.
Vlad might seem good at early game - but if you figure out you can get dominator for that money you will see that in late game vlad will only take important bag please meanwhile dominator can be converted into satanic - the core mort item.
Vlad gives u only some hp/mana regen and lifesteal.
Dominator gives u lifesteal and armor which is hardly better against enemie that herass you while trying to last hit creeps.

[div.ide]

Since i am playing pubs noone stacks camps. and i am busy with farming. and i think lifesteal helps laning better then aqulia. And yes i go with deso later for insane damage output.

altough i dont make vlads if somone already makes.. then i switch domi build

That even makes stacking easier, because peope are not even paying attention. You just dominate that creep, hotkey it, and each minute spend 3-5 seconds using that creep to stack. Later join the party with battlefury, and get 1,5k gold on instant. If not more.

I wouldn't say it's still laning if you have vlads done. But even if, vlad pushes your lane, which doesn't really help you lasthit better. Neither does autoattack.

Vlad gives u only some hp/mana regen and lifesteal.
Dominator gives u lifesteal and armor which is hardly better against enemie that herass you while trying to last hit creeps.

A nitpick.

Helmet of Dominator (1850g)
+20 damage
+5 armor
Lifesteal (passive) +15%
Dominate (active)

Vladimir's offering (2050)
+2 HP/sec regeneration
Vampiric Aura (passive) +16%
Damage Aura (passive) +15%
Armor Aura (passive) +5 armor <- it's here.
Mana Regeneration Aura (passive) +0.8 per second

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Armor's indentical, lifesteal barely differs, hp regen is pretty neglible past laning phase, and helmet's damage bonus is better unless you're past 20 level.

We're left with Dominate + satanic upgrade vs mana regen and having above effects in AoE around you. I'd take the former one, granted better farming capability and lategame upgrade. Unless situation call otherwise (for example, you somehow ended as add-on to 4 man pushing team).

[Pash4]

Since i am playing pubs noone stacks camps. and i am busy with farming. and i think lifesteal helps laning better then aqulia. And yes i go with deso later for insane damage output.

altough i dont make vlads if somone already makes.. then i switch domi build

That even makes stacking easier, because peope are not even paying attention. You just dominate that creep, hotkey it, and each minute spend 3-5 seconds using that creep to stack. Later join the party with battlefury, and get 1,5k gold on instant. If not more.

I wouldn't say it's still laning if you have vlads done. But even if, vlad pushes your lane, which doesn't really help you lasthit better. Neither does autoattack.

Vlad gives u only some hp/mana regen and lifesteal.
Dominator gives u lifesteal and armor which is hardly better against enemie that herass you while trying to last hit creeps.

A nitpick.

Helmet of Dominator (1850g)
+20 damage
+5 armor
Lifesteal (passive) +15%
Dominate (active)

Vladimir's offering (2050)
+2 HP/sec regeneration
Vampiric Aura (passive) +16%
Damage Aura (passive) +15%
Armor Aura (passive) +5 armor <- it's here.
Mana Regeneration Aura (passive) +0.8 per second

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Armor's indentical, lifesteal barely differs, hp regen is pretty neglible past laning phase, and helmet's damage bonus is better unless you're past 20 level.

We're left with Dominate + satanic upgrade vs mana regen and having above effects in AoE around you. I'd take the former one, granted better farming capability and lategame upgrade. Unless situation call otherwise (for example, you somehow ended as add-on to 4 man pushing team).

Dominator is better anyway.Dominator and vlads stacks if i didnt know wrong? Support with vlad + carry with mortred mean more lifesteal am i wrong?Satanic + bkb gives mortred 1 more life for killing more heroes.But i have a decent idea here.Phase as a boot.Then armlet.I think armlet means owning in pubs.After armlet dominator and others(Bfury bkb satanic vs)