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How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« on: January 31, 2010, 12:54 »
I mean there must be some kind of formula how to calculate it from kill/death ratio, won/lost ratio, total games played...
Tried to find out a pattern by me own, but it doesnt really add up^^.

If this topic has been discussed already (i couldnt find anything like it), just post the link to it plz.
Thx.
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« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 15:39 by KillEmAll »

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 21:25 »
There is a formula that calculates your score, I'll post it when i get time.

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 15:06 »
I already asked it here. I only noticed that victory brings most of ladder points. Score almost has no impact and it should stay that way. Dota is team game.

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 18:47 »
Of course its teamplay.
But the problem is that u have no influence on who you play with!
for example: lets say u have 10-3stats, but your teammates are total noobs.
Then your stats are well, but u still loose the game, no matter how good u are.
Of course,  kill/death ratio also depends on your team's skills.
But if u look at both ratios, i think its even the other way around, like u said.
Meaning, that if u have bad win/loose but still good kill/death, doesnt that mean, although ur team sucked, you still owned?

Overall, i think the score doesnt really show anything.


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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2010, 21:15 »
Score from a DotA game is saved to ladder only if:

   Game started as 5vs5
   Game ended properly (Three/Throne was destroyed)
   Game mode was not "-wtf" or "-test"


Score and position in the ladder is calculated with formula:

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ROUND((((kills/games-deaths/games+(assists/games)*0.5+(towerkills/games)*0.5+(raxkills/games)*0.2+(courierkills/games+creepdenies/games)*0.1+(neutralkills/games)*0.03+(creepkills/games)*0.03)*.2)+(wins-(games-wins))),2)
More readable form:

(
   kills / games
   - deaths / games
   + ( assists / games ) * 0.5
   + ( towerkills / games ) * 0.5
   + ( raxkills / games ) * 0.2
   + ( courierkills / games + creepdenies / games ) * 0.1
   + ( neutralkills / games ) * 0.03
   + ( creepkills / games ) * 0.03
) * .2
+ ( wins - ( games - wins )


Or:

(
   average kills
   - average deaths
   + ( average assists ) * 0.5
   + ( average towerkills ) * 0.5
   + ( average raxkills ) * 0.2
   + ( average courierkills + average creepdenies ) * 0.1
   + ( average neutralkills ) * 0.03
   + ( average creepkills ) * 0.03
) * .2
+ ( wins - loses )


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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 11:34 »
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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 18:04 »
The truth is, all things other than wins and loses wont bring you more than 9 points (calculated from top players in each category)

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 19:49 »
The truth is, all things other than wins and loses wont bring you more than 9 points (calculated from top players in each category)
9 points is quite a lot.

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2010, 02:47 »
I think he ment 0.9 :) . Haven't seen more than 1.8 per game won , with total ownage. Best score, ck/cd etc.

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 16:12 »
Uber i got little question is the score system slightly different for private games?

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 17:23 »
Uber i got little question is the score system slightly different for private games?

Yes. It is better (but I have no idea about the formula).

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 18:03 »
I think he ment 0.9 :) . Haven't seen more than 1.8 per game won , with total ownage. Best score, ck/cd etc.
I meant 9 as in max 9 per player no matter how much games you played. Actually, I don't think someone has more that 5 points from it.

Easy formula to calcultate score:
score ~= wins - loses +- 5

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 21:49 »
Uber i got little question is the score system slightly different for private games?

It was different long ago, but it's not anymore. Now it's the same formula for priv or pub.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2010, 21:51 by MyUberNick »

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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2010, 13:13 »
I have another question.

How many games do I need to get ranked in Top5? Is it a rate to number of games of player with most games played or what?

For example I have more assist than first person in Top5 but i have only 70 games played and player with least games in Top5 has 110.

So please tell me how this work.
Thank you.
!psr is based on ELO 1v1 system, DotA is 5v5 game. Does it make sense to you?


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Re: How does playdota.eu scoresystem work?
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2010, 14:45 »
I have another question.

How many games do I need to get ranked in Top5? Is it a rate to number of games of player with most games played or what?

For example I have more assist than first person in Top5 but i have only 70 games played and player with least games in Top5 has 110.

So please tell me how this work.
Thank you.
^^ Read the previous posts clearly and you find the answer!


(
   kills / games
   - deaths / games
   + ( assists / games ) * 0.5
   + ( towerkills / games ) * 0.5
   + ( raxkills / games ) * 0.2
   + ( courierkills / games + creepdenies / games ) * 0.1
   + ( neutralkills / games ) * 0.03
   + ( creepkills / games ) * 0.03
) * .2
+ ( wins - ( games - wins )

As DotA is a team game the 0.5 points per assists is less. It should be equal to the kills or higher then just 0.5. If someone plays a support hero, assists all the time and dont get kills, he gets punished through that. But a high dps hero who can come and last hit, gets rewarded.
Also the fact that the win games count 80% is quite much. It doesn't say something about the player at all. You can play a lot of easy fast -em games and get rewarded.
^ That are just suggestions for thinking over.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 16:47 by kjag »