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Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« on: April 23, 2012, 12:48 »
Im addicted player of invoker so i want to know people's builds for invoker, i always go for exort, then wex, then quas, (e+w+e+r+e+q+r+...) and i play for DPS invoker: nullx2+pt+orchid+buriza+mkb. What about you? What do you choose?

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 13:15 »
invo one of best heroes in game..you can build him like you want and how fits to the game
playing only one build isnt "playing invo" sometimesyou build classic QW invo and you find that early E only on one lvl is suitable
and can change the game, cause you unlock all spells
sometimes EQ great but again one or two W early can help you

its very flexible to the situation, thats why invo is one of most difficult heroes in game to play

I play mostly QW against heroes with smaller mana pools that sux w/o it cause EMP tornado is still very strong, and fast speed with
snap is deadly, picking E when needed blast or start to push with spirits

or now popular EQ, with strike and spirits/snap, its very deadly

and items? the classic build is pretty imba nothing to have more, Phase best for dmg and speed cause you got stats from orbs, wand
must on every hero, and that jango drum...imba, plus FS, very funny item and saved me a lot of kills and help to escape, agha no brainer
2 sec on invoke? team fights have never been easier, rest depends on game and this suite very well even for dps invo, cause you got from
all items stats, and you need to survive and cast as most spells as you can, and with alacrity... geez either imba speed with dmg on W or very high
dmg with nice speed on E

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2012, 18:04 »
i going
1lvl - ex ,2nd -w ,e ,q ,q,e,q,e,q
and then after i got 4lvl on quas and exort i going wex
i need 4 lvl exort and quas for fire spirits and killing rosh in lvl 12 (fspirits + cold snap + medalion of courage)
about items
usaly:ptraids,medalion of courage.necro book,scepter,hex....
about magic always have spirits around me
and meteor cold span blast ghost walk in early game and in late tornado emp cold snap
building magics like me giving u dmg and reg on early game with giving u controling lane and last hits
also this tactic i first time saw when Rapboy owned us
he was kill rosh in min 13 before our lycan who we was like wtf

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 22:41 »
I'm pretty noob with invoker, as for spells so i play him very simple, he is still imba.
I go pt, lifesteal, hyper, buriza.
Then ac, mkb, satanic, gg then.
As for spells, meteor and sun strike in early cause i max exort. Then meteor and blast. Late game snap + alacrity, IMBA

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2012, 00:07 »
started with WE but but turned to EQ invoker. it always depends(lane,role, priv or pub, enemy heroes) but the plan is rush for aganim and then just w8 for some cc spell and throw you combo(for me its aproach with forged s. eew,qwe,(or start with>) qqw, www) and then standard qqq raping of remains, with help of spirits
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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2012, 01:32 »
If you can use good sunstrike you must use it.everygame when i play invoker i go sunstrike+metaor
then when u are 7 lvl.you can combo like. tornado+metaor+r(defance blast) if you can do that fastly you can get all kills.and im goin first item aganhim.(it should be in 25 min)then if i need eul or kelen.then domi+mkb+buriza+hex.Late game use combo then if u have kelen u can do simply usefull ice wall.then wwe+qqq.kill them all

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2012, 05:37 »
also mom is really usefor for invoker i think, u know: alacrity+mom=%360 bonus attack speed for 8 seconds, better than ursa huh? :D

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2012, 13:28 »
also mom is really usefor for invoker i think, u know: alacrity+mom=%360 bonus attack speed for 8 seconds, better than ursa huh? :D
Negative, sir.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Overpower grants +400% IAS.

Alacrity with maxed Wex +80% IAS.
MoM Active +100% IAS
Lvl 25 invoker with Wex maxed would have 79 agi.
This totals into +259% IAS.

However +30% dmg recieved is indeed very useful for Invoker's enemy.
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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 13:55 »
also mom is really usefor for invoker i think, u know: alacrity+mom=%360 bonus attack speed for 8 seconds, better than ursa huh? :D
Negative, sir.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Overpower grants +400% IAS.

Alacrity with maxed Wex +80% IAS.
MoM Active +100% IAS
Lvl 25 invoker with Wex maxed would have 79 agi.
This totals into +259% IAS.

However +30% dmg recieved is indeed very useful for Invoker's enemy.

agree MoM is very rare item that suits only to few heroes (void), and Ursa got in overpower fastest attack in the game...

there are much better items for invo, but most ppl who played him more still saying...Agha - your cd on invoke so short you
cant even so fast click those combos :D and you need your combos for winning and killing, also pushing
I played recently one invo game, where enemies played well and we got some noobies in team, at start me owned them in ganks,
15 mins they started to go all and countered me quite often I cant farmed my agha so fast and the team fights were just horrible, cause 15 and 7 sec cd
on invoke are not just enough to cast more then 3 spells until you dead or you loose fight... unless you build DPS items and have just 2 spells, its not INVOKER :D

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 08:23 »
Doesn't mom double the current attack speed? i mean, an invoker with alacrity have %180 attack speed mom must effect this one, otherwise it will be full waste.

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 12:22 »
Increased Attack Speed stacks additively, not multiplicatively.

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 17:43 »
Oh, that was a bad one. here is an another question: some of attack speed bonuses are +as and some of them are +%as. How does +as work?

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 18:12 »
With or without %, both mean the same. You just add them up (posiyive and negative), then apply to your base attack speed.

Short glossary:
AS - Attack Speed, what you get as result after applying all bonuses. Predefined by BAT, modified by IAS.
IAS - Increased Attack Speed, counted as percent bonus/penalty. Stacks additively.
BAT - Base Attack Time - Cooldown of your attack before bonuses, I mean with 1 (100%) AS (in other words, 0 IAS). Given in seconds. The lower, the better.

Formula is as follows:
AS = (1 + IAS) / (BAT)

Since IAS is capped at -80 and +400, AS can end up between 20% and 500% of original.

Now that most heroes have 1.7 BAT, you can attack for up to 5/1.7 = 2.94 times per second.

Exceptions for 1.7 BAT rule:

- Alchemist during Chemical Rage (1.45 / 1.3 / 1.15) - note that 5/1.15 = 4.35 attacks per second at most. Fun stuff.
- Magina (1.45)
- Terrorblade without / with metamorphosis  (1.5 / 1.6)
- Windrunner (1.5)
- Lycanthrope during Shapeshift (1.5)
- Troll Warlord in melee form (1.55)
- Huskar (1.6)

There was also that necromicon warrior with like... 0.75? Oh and roshan with 1. Other creeps don't matter (I can't remember anyway)
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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 21:08 »
dagon lvl5 and gg

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Re: Which build of invoker do you like the most?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 21:42 »
also mom is really usefor for invoker i think, u know: alacrity+mom=%360 bonus attack speed for 8 seconds, better than ursa huh? :D

huh, 1 creep 2 hits invo dead, kk