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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2018, 03:26 am »
And I was thought something for the best of participants in Football Betting game.
like this:   and
for the best won credits:   same in colors bronze, silver and gold  :)
What do you think about it?


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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2018, 12:48 pm »
Idk why we go with warcraft3 icons. Maybe we can go silver ball for 3x in a row ( silver color is hard to make out of black and white ball, or it is not ? ) and golden ball for 5x in a row. I doubt someone will win more than 5x in a row.

If you recall most of us agreed using only war3 icons for awards but I guess we can make an exception in this case. Also, I thought those icons were relevant: golden shoe and golden ball are football awards, from what I know  ;D

Then like this?

bronze, three in a row
silver, five in a row
gold, seven in a row

Is imposible (for me) to make them like that from black. I can paint them but will look bad. I will have to change the background as well cuse those colors will not look good on white background, especially silver.

And I was thought something for the best of participants in Football Betting game.
like this:   and
for the best won credits:   same in colors bronze, silver and gold  :)
What do you think about it?

We recently removed a lot of awards and agreed about limiting their number. I think there are too many, especially for an offtopic game. How about 4? 1 win, 3 wins, 5 wins and 1 given for record of credits in a season, or something like that. Example: 1 guy gets 1005 credits and we modify the award description to "Record of 1005 betting credits". If another one gets 1010 we move to award to the new guy and modify it to "Record of 1010...".

If you get more than 5 wins in a row we can always make one more award but, for now, I think 5 will do.

Attached some similar ball with different color here, to make an idea how will look. I can make those 3 versions for it (gold, silver, bronze) but trust me on this one: will look bad. Is your call. I will search another ball icon, meanwhile. I think I need a "solid" one to make it look good.
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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2018, 02:51 pm »
Do what you want and how you want. You know best what it can and what can not do. Give awards whatever you think is the most appropriate.

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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2018, 07:50 pm »
Do what you want and how you want. You know best what it can and what can not do. Give awards whatever you think is the most appropriate.

You are this board's/game's moderator. You decide what awards you want. I'm afraid I have to limit their numbers but this will be my only condition and will be temporary. If you get more participants I will provide you more awards. About awards being war3 related: I told you, we can make an exception. The problem with the icon you want me to make silver, bronze and gold awards from it is that I dont think I can do it in these colors and may look bad (meaning you and your participants will not like it). I didnt had time to searc icons today. I just got home a bit earlier and I'm tired. Will search them tomorrow. If you have something in mind or you want to search for some icon/picture to make icon just let me know. The goal is to make something that will look good for participants.

TODO:
-Award for 1 win (I guess will remain current icon)
-Award for 3 consecutive wins (Color?)
-Award for 5 consecutive wins (Color?)
-Award for more than 5 consecutive wins will be made if someone beats this record
-You said you want for participations and credit. Choose one of them and tell me how you want it to look (or provide icon/picture)
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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2018, 12:06 pm »
TODO:
-Award for 1 win (I guess will remain current icon)
-Award for 3 consecutive wins (Color?)
-Award for 5 consecutive wins (Color?)
-Award for more than 5 consecutive wins will be made if someone beats this record
-You said you want for participations and credit. Choose one of them and tell me how you want it to look (or provide icon/picture)
I do not think it should be limited to five in a row, already set some goal. I know that the task is difficult but in life it should have some purpose(the goal), but how you want. You know better than me what's good for here.
Since it will not be easy to win these awards for this reason I have proposed rewards for the best participants in Football betting game and for the best won credits.
As far as credit award I thought they were awarded when someone won for example 5000+ credits in one bet then a award of 10000+ credits and 50000+ credits for example. I'm still not sure how many credits they would score for which one award, but they would agree. And for these awards I would like to be from w3, because this is such a platform. Especially for won credits I liked Alchemist the third spell icon. I think its original. Tnx @King Arthas for a good idea and your icons are not bad @Renovatio
In any case, I repeat, you know best what is good and what not for here.

Here are some icons that I found, maybe they some will suit:
Spoiler for Hiden:
1. set

2. proposal

3. proposal

4. proposal

5. proposal

6. proposal

7. proposal

8. special proposal

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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2018, 06:09 pm »
Here you go mate, but you shouldnt have unrealistic goals, is bad for you...
Will make exception regarding awards cuse you did a good job here and you deserve the support that you want but I'm pretty sure no one will get the 5 and 7 wins in a row awards.

- this one, you said you want it for participations. Tell me a description for it (set conditions to achieve it). I do not suggest giving it to whomever participate.

- this one for credits. Give description to it. I wont make 3 versions of it. 6 awards is enough, for now. Only this one, for credits, so think about conditions for it. Mby giving it to record number of credits, as I suggested, dunno, you decide.
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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2018, 07:52 pm »
- then we could reduce to 3, 4, 5 in a row or even better for 3, 5, 7, winning seasons anytime.

- I thought this to you to decide which of the best participants should be rewarded. I do not have to wonder about everything.

- then this will be the best placed bet in the season.

What do you think of all this?

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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2018, 06:35 pm »
Hmm, would be nice to hear some opinions from participants.

I think would be best if you give awards for all time wins. Winning in a row is harder and most of the participants will not get awards.

  • Black ball for 1 win
  • Bronze ball for 3 wins
  • Silver ball for 5 wins
  • Gold ball for 10 wins

For participation award: will be hard to track them cuse you will have to award this based on number of participations. Meaning you will have to count bets for every participant.

For credits: better the best placed bet of all time, imo, and would mean it can be held by only 1 guy at a time: the record holder. If you give it to best placed bet in the season chances are that many guys will get it. Easy to get awards arent valuable and wont motivate too much.

The thing with awards/achievements is that it can motivate participants/players to do some things based on the conditions placed by said awards: making them participate more often, trying more to win, trying to break records; this is why you shouldnt have easy conditions but nor too hard conditions either. If your awards are unreachable participants will get discouraged, if there are too easy to get they will lack interest once they win them all. This is why I think is best to give the coin only to the record breaker, so others can try their luck/knowledge to break that record and hold on to it as much as they can and to make the golden ball to 10 wins condition. For participation: I have no idea how to do it without counting bets like Akuma did it in the 1st season. The problem is that you will have to count stats for all the seasons and keep that count going on.


Also, is important to have a scoreboard. Something like:
+-------------+------+------+-------------+
| Participant | Wins | Bets | Highest bet |
+=============+======+======+=============+
| tehnika8x8  | 3    | 85   | 1250        |
+-------------+------+------+-------------+
| AGENT       | 3    | 100  | 120         |
+-------------+------+------+-------------+
| xpam        | -10  | 1000 | -40         |
+-------------+------+------+-------------+
| etc         |      |      |             |
+-------------+------+------+-------------+


The columns should contain the variables met in your awards' conditions. If you dont give award for participation then you dont need to count the number of bets and therefore you dont need to have them in scoreboard, for example.
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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2018, 07:41 pm »
First season was a test season, even rules changed by far since then, so it can be ignored.
(Just count +1 to tehnika's winnings since he won 1st one.)

Anyway as I said this game is fully moderated by tehnika now, efko left me as "game moderator" since game is my creation even though I told him its unnecessary, I don't even have time to bet, less to moderate it.. Tehnika is doing great job, and whatever he decides to do, change, add, remove has my full support.

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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2018, 08:44 pm »
can we add 2,5 goal over/under or 3,5

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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2018, 11:26 pm »
can we add 2,5 goal over/under or 3,5
We already have this game: 3-4 goals
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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2018, 08:34 am »
Hmm, would be nice to hear some opinions from participants.
Mate, and I would like to hear their opinion.
I think would be best if you give awards for all time wins. Winning in a row is harder and most of the participants will not get awards.

  • Black ball for 1 win
  • Bronze ball for 3 wins
  • Silver ball for 5 wins
  • Gold ball for 10 wins
With this, I completely agree with you. Let it be so.  :agreed:
For credits: better the best placed bet of all time, imo, and would mean it can be held by only 1 guy at a time: the record holder. If you give it to best placed bet in the season chances are that many guys will get it. Easy to get awards arent valuable and wont motivate too much.
One who wins the highest credits in one bet(post) should get this title(award) and if someone skips it then award is removed and given to the one who skipped it. If you thinks about it, then I like it. 8)
For participation award: will be hard to track them cuse you will have to award this based on number of participations. Meaning you will have to count bets for every participant.
About this I thought it would be rewarded by number of posts. One post = one bets. Not important how much the bets was in post. Because if we count the number of bets in a post then users who use single game would have advantage of ticket users (parlay). It's not difficult to track. I do not need a separate section in the table, because I just return posts back and I count. I can track it without marking anywhere. We just need to get a deal via PM how many posts would be enough for a reward.
For participation: I have no idea how to do it without counting bets like Akuma did it in the 1st season. The problem is that you will have to count stats for all the seasons and keep that count going on.
This still valid, I'm lazy to track(I'm not Gondar :)). Because in case that two users have same number of credits, the one who had more bets (post) will be declared the winner or in the event that it is still unresolved, then bets in posts are counted.
Which means who more participates more gets. ;)

I really like yours scoreboard.  :y:

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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2018, 06:35 pm »
Awards created.
You can see them in your profile > awards list (http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=listAwards;start=80)

Send me a list, once you decide how to assign the participation award. Something like:
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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2018, 03:02 pm »
Award for participation is ready. It was decided to be given for at least 50 bets (betting tickets = 1 or more bets from betting offer).
AGENT the Icon Seeker !awarded with
Akuma (-1 bet), AGENT, Renovatio, tehnika8x8 !awarded with

Tehnika, PM me with the nickname of the Football Betting Record Holder, I think is you with 1200-something but I'm not sure. Made you a table with the awards. It should be in a topic with a scoreboard or in 1st post from Football Betting Game (better in the one with scoreboard but is your call).

Winning 1 season of Football Betting
Winning 3 seasons of Football Betting
Winning 5 seasons of Football Betting
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Re: Betting game suggestions/improvement topic
« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2018, 06:04 pm »
Made you a table with the awards. It should be in a topic with a scoreboard or in 1st post from Football Betting Game (better in the one with scoreboard but is your call).
Congratulations to everyone on the rewarded awards

                     All changes and new releases will be at the end of the season (as usual) when we announce the winner of the current season.
         There will be awards for other participants who have reached them.
                              Until then we continue with Football Betting and I wish you a lot of luck..

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@Renovatio I have a special reward for you because you help me a lot in everything . Tnx a lot  :)
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