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Title: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 24, 2019, 16:09
First of all
Hi to everyone from  VIP member and w3-safelist lvl 5.

-Now i want to say few things about our hosting system.
I wanted to create this post long time ago but i always thought there would be better days for public but  i was wrong. I think our system is totaly unfair.

-Coz' our hosting system (where everyone can create game )  is for this moment very bad  and I  suggest that we change host system rules.

-This what players doing is totaly unfair.  Making tones of new accounts stacking with eachothers.   If game goes wrong they rage quites ruining on purpose going mid every game and more and more situations . 

-I suggest to our admins   and moderators to do some changes  and not letting people to create game whereever they want and whoever wants . Making new accounts is also a hudge problem...

I know its hard but we can try do something.
I mean moderators can do something


-There must be rule about not making manual balance and about not making milions of accounts. I know its hard but we can do something i think

-IF somneone can make manual balance there are players who desrve this .
FOr example  if on public games One VIP member host game  he can handle command for manual balance. But if other palyers making games !lock command for them should be deleted.

And if someone want playing  with friends (stacking for fun ) for PSR la-dota system, he can create game but that game will not go into ladder stats/psr system.

-ANd of the end of post  if someone needs to handle those commands LIke,  !Lock,
 !hold , !kick, geting more than one accounts there are :
#1 admins La  #2 Vouchers from ss ligue   #3 VIP Members

-And there is a question who will create game if noone  has those commans like
/w la-dota !pub .... I got answer for it. On lagabuse.com channel  there could be !Vote for game for example currentley online palyers   can type !sign for a game AP  or smth like that and when 10/10 signs game will be autohosted and that game will go into ladder system.

-Lets make this server more fun and fair . <3   


(Sry for my gramatic mistakes i typing in hurry :D

Maybe i dont see point of this post but at least i would see some comments and what people on lagabuse think about this system.)
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 24, 2019, 16:22
I agree that there are many leavers, need to do something about it but it seems hard because wasnt solved for years but i dont think hosting system has much to do with it

If people cant create games when they want like on safelist then soon you will get same amount of games like on safelist. Maybe there are better games there but they happen few times per month. Maybe instead of trying to make lagabuse similar to safelist you could gather people for actual safelist, for example i wanted to join recently

I heard some idea about making games autohosted with autobalance but it wouldnt fix leavers and then friends couldnt play together. Playing in unranked games is impossible because no1 will join

Making lock command, you mean admins and vip members will be allowed to stack but others not? wont they have more chances to win and for others less chances to become vip too because harder?

I think would be good to have ip ban system for leavers if they for example leave 2 times in 2 days to ban them automatic. And free stat reset (for only vip, tour supporter and other and admin for example) would be good idea because i have feeling that most leavers are vip
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 24, 2019, 17:28

If people cant create games when they want like on safelist then soon you will get same amount of games like on safelist. Maybe there are better games there but they happen few times per month.


Not about safelist... Actually would be way different from it.  I said everyone can create game if on lagabuse.com channel  poeple types !sign AP or smth like this.. When 10/10 types !sign AP (Or !sign 1600RD)game will be autohosted. Thats how other platforms doing and its rly good.

And btw safelist is higher room and ofc there will be less games.. 

(And as i can see you are vouched as ttrial on ss so i wsih you luck)
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: beastiary on June 24, 2019, 18:21
you still dont understand anything
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: begin on June 24, 2019, 18:26
Vladan i am not sure if you are dumb or just too illiterate to express your dumb ideas...
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: ClaraSchuman on June 24, 2019, 18:32
No_Lifer_XD  !Banned 7. days !Warn 10.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 24, 2019, 19:03
I want to see normal comments not comments from @begin   and @ClaraSchuman  :D :D   :michael jackson: :michael jackson:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on June 24, 2019, 22:28
The way I see it, two things can be done here. Either the entire community will change, or you'll have to be the one to change.

I'd honestly recommend you to just drop the competitive spirit and just play for the sake of fun, forget that PSR is a thing and keep in mind that winning, losing, stats, PSR, none of it matters. Then again, if you really want to stick to your idea, I guess that the closest thing to it would be the old Dotalicious-Gaming system, ones who played on DLG back in the days will most likely relate to what you're trying to say.

The idea behind this is alright but you gotta face the reality, most current Dota 1 players are either complete casuals, or just "randoms" (not really sure if it's fair to say noobs here), and while you and people like you may embrace these ideas, I'm quite confident that the majority of the population would not agree to this.

The stuff like "One player - One account" policy and making "balance abuse" / manual balance a ban-able offense are probably easiest tasks from the ones you mentioned, and I frankly support that idea. As for the hosting system, the idea you mentioned is quite identical to the system RGC is using (or at least I think it is), basically 10 dudes use a hostbot to create a player pool, once the hostbot registers 10 people in the pool it creates a lobby and reserves slots for people who signed. It's a solid idea, but it excludes a game / lobby owner, and no one can guarantee that a VIP or an admin would always be there to perform !swap commands in case more than two people want to play in the same team, or any other commands that could be needed.

In overall, I'd support this idea, but so many players have already bailed on Dota 1 that it probably isn't even worth the effort in any aspect. If it was up to me, I'd just literally copy off the entire system DLG used (separating player pools per Skill levels, treating warn points like Radiant points, etc.), but I doubt anyone wants to put that much effort into this.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 24, 2019, 23:56

I'd honestly recommend you to just drop the competitive spirit and just play for the sake of fun, forget that PSR is a thing and keep in mind that winning, losing, stats, PSR, none of it matters. Then again, if you really want to stick to your idea, I guess that the closest thing to it would be the old Dotalicious-Gaming system, ones who played on DLG back in the days will most likely relate to what you're trying to say.


DL-G system is good. It  works on other server . I mean its similar to DL system  . Thats how i imagine changes.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 24, 2019, 23:58
i never played on dotalicious, can you explain how it worked?
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on June 25, 2019, 00:38
i never played on dotalicious, can you explain how it worked?

I'll try and simplify it as much as I can.

Basically, you had a "One player - one account" policy. If you have (had) any relatives or anyone playing on a same PC you needed to provide a proof. Also, internet caffe owners had to submit special registrations due to this case. Breaking this rule would lead to a permanent IP ban.

Ranks were based on Skill level, there were four levels in total:

 - Skill level 0: New players / players who haven't met the requirements for any higher skill level. Basically skill level for beginners and bad players, SL0 games aren't counted in the ranking system (no PSR gain from them);

 - Skill level 1: Requirements: over 50% win rate, 50 dota games played, and one leave per 100 games, clean account (no radiant points);

 - Skill level 2: Requirements: Over 65% win rate, ~200 Dota games played, one leave per 1000 games, clean account (no radiant points);

 - Skill level 3: Requirements: Higher win rate than Skill level 2, proactive player, and you have to be vouched by another Skill level 3 player and pass the trial.

( Side note: PSR was also a requirement for higher skill levels, but I cannot remember the exact scaling. I think it was somewhere around >1300 for SL2 and >1600 for SL3. All new accounts would start from 1000, and progress once they reach SL1)

AP games with selective slots (without shuffling) were not available for SL0 players, only for SL1 and higher.

Can't remember the exact concept for Radiant points, but it was kind of like this:

Radiant points were quite similar to Warn points here, except they had a far greater drawback. The greater the offense, the more radiant points you'd get. Expiration due was around 1RP per week, in which case you would be stuck in SL0 games due to SL requirements.

Leaving games would lead to getting radiant points and designation. Designated players would be banned from any SL games (duration depending on the amount of ragequits, was scaled from 2 days, to a week, to a month, and then permaban), but they would have access to a designation bot. Basically, players who were banned still had their own hostbot, but could only play with people who were also banned.

Rules were quite strict, straight to the point, and breaking them would lead to a ban without any exceptions. People were able to submit complaints, but it was well known that an invalid / unjustified request would lead to both, extension of ban duration and radiant points.

Will not go through game hosting and their client cause there's no need for that at the moment, and because some of the features probably aren't necessary to be mentioned.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 25, 2019, 00:44
Thank you for clarifying.

Its a pretty complex system for a big community, i think it could be implemented here but it would take too much time and also the community is too small for something complex like that.

1 player = 1 account system might be actually good which i keep thinking as time passes, still im more for some comprimise as i posted above.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 25, 2019, 01:43
One player one account policy is exactly what we need right now.
Btw we can also make some colours  for palyers who has for example skill lvl 3  or they are VIPs or SS-vouchers or Admins etc.. so we can see in cahnnel or lobby what kind of player he is .
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 25, 2019, 01:49
you mean like with colored name hack? Don't know maybe its good idea for verified players to have some color but probably not easy to implement
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on June 25, 2019, 06:24
I m supporting the thing about 1 acc for 1 player, so no more multiple accounts.
With rhest I think its to complicated, and not sure how will regular ppl react to.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: Meth0d on June 25, 2019, 15:32
First of all
Hi to everyone from  VIP member and w3-safelist lvl 5.
Level of cringe is unreal, no point of reading after 1st sentence.
Also he just copy rgc system and coming here to be smart about it.
And y btw i told already on stats reset topic the best solution but lexmonster and etc admins who are not even active in past years dont even read suggestions. Get over it server is dead.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on June 25, 2019, 19:08
I dont know why ppl geting trigered by no_lifer_xd aka vladan with his attitude... well thats his style,he s doing some "arrogance thing" and you have to take that as joke,in facts he s hall of fame player anyway and lvl 1 000 boss!
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: Meth0d on June 25, 2019, 19:34
Thats not arrogance, that is ''wannabe style''  :peace:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 25, 2019, 20:13
Take my arrogance as joke. 
If you want to be "arrogance boy " you have to work hard  for legend stats .
Put your skill on legendary level  then you will get premission to talk like me. 
 :peace: :peace: :peace: :peace:   8) 8)
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: LexMonster on June 25, 2019, 20:55
Hello Method, my old fan.
First of all, thank you for mentioning me, regardless of the context, afterall, there is no bad publicity.

On topic, as someone already mentioned, most of d1 players abandoned it (moved to d2, grew up?, etc) so by completely changing the ranking system in 2019, after 8-9 successfull years, in community with very limited amount of players, it would most likely result in quicker server death. There are some chances that it might succeed, but what are the odds, and at what cost?

DLG's system sounds good to be honest, but they probably have it from the begining. Back to LA, now imagine low skill players who would need to understand how new system works, and how to start a game? There would be riot, I can guarantee (or they would just abandon server). Dont forget that with each new patch we lose certain amount of players because they are incapable of updating gproxy..
Some of them dont even understand hero roles yet, I mean I see 4-5 carry games quite frequently..

Regardless of their skill, they are players just like you. We need to maintain balance between valuable players and players that are sometimes needed just to fill up few last slots in lobby..

Dont get me wrong, I am just trying to keep the server alive for as long as I can.

What can be done, and was suggesed in the past (I believe), is disabling new accounts from hosting. Only accounts with X number of games can host (including previous seasons). This would definitely add some value to the old accounts.
I will check what happened with this suggestion, and update you.
Let me know what you think about this solution.

Best regards
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: cen on June 25, 2019, 22:03
Idea about !sign (auto matching players of similar skill, creating game with fixed slots when match is full) was floated internally in the beginning of the year and has a lot of support. This would solve a lot of problems you outlined in your post. We could also preserve manual game creation at the same time but give those games lesser psr gains to discourage them. Nobody is currently available to work on this.

Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: begin on June 25, 2019, 22:08
i disagree with Vladan Vojnovic  :shit:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 25, 2019, 22:27
I think disabling creating game for new players is good idea. Could be even enchanced for example,

lvl 0 players can only join (by typing sign or in game list)

lvl 1 players can host

lvl 2 players can reset stats by typing bot !resetstats for example maybe with cooldown if it can be done

Then account would have a lot of value and no need to leave games to reset stats
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on June 25, 2019, 23:43
I'll just tag @LexMonster so I don't have to quote the entire response.

I couldn't agree more with you here, and frankly speaking, despite hating most things about the current community I'm still surprised you managed to keep this place alive for so long.

DLG system was definitely the best for me but times were far different back then, Dota 1 was literally at it's peak so all communities needed to have a fairly high standard. Furthermore, despite being fairly detailed with strict rules and policies, and probably having the highest skill cap out of all communities back then, it was still among the very first Dota 1 communities that was shut down because the entire system and it's features took too much time, effort and money to be maintained.

I posted some details about it because it felt suitable for this topic but as I already said, I don't think the community can afford any drastic changes at this point, due to already mentioned reasons.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: begin on June 26, 2019, 00:18
Vladan has a rich auntie he should ask her to support this server ;D @No_LiFeR_xD
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 26, 2019, 01:02

What can be done, and was suggesed in the past (I believe), is disabling new accounts from hosting. Only accounts with X number of games can host (including previous seasons). This would definitely add some value to the old accounts.
I will check what happened with this suggestion, and update you.
Let me know what you think about this solution.


Hmm good  :y: 

But also try fix smth with commands like  !kick option or  !swap option . 
For example !kick  option can use only owner who has some award or its rewarded member .  I see on LA pub games VIP members and vouchers in ss doesent have any privileges ...
Palyers with top Ladder must be treated on other way .

Do something about it . What i have from my VIP nember in past 4 years when i dont get any convenience instead little convenience which i use  only  on LA forum.
(I am now #1 ladder and i will reset my account coz' i dont see point of palying for psrand get 1800-1900 for no reason.
I DONT HAVE ANY PRIVILEGES ON LA PUBLIC ... Better i reset stats and play with 1550  psr players its more interest and more balanced)
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: efko.aqw on June 26, 2019, 13:13
Maybe solution could be to set limits where players under 50 or 100 games are limited and kickable by majority, but there would be abuses again.
About disabling new accounts to host, we need to have alternative bot which is autohosted so if happen that there is 0 games hosted, players without ability to host can play that game instead of waiting.
From beginning was core rule that game owner choice who will play with who, so !kick , !swap , !lock , and some other commands are forbidden even for admins to use if they are not owner of the game. VIP members are on hold list as reserved slot which means easier way to join games. Don't see why SS members should be granted special treatment since SS is league on its own.
Ideally solution could be autohosting games with shuffle before game start, so more PSR could be in those more balanced games, and less where player create game. This could change some things around.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on June 26, 2019, 13:36
Hmm good  :y: 

But also try fix smth with commands like  !kick option or  !swap option . 
For example !kick  option can use only owner who has some award or its rewarded member .  I see on LA pub games VIP members and vouchers in ss doesent have any privileges ...
Palyers with top Ladder must be treated on other way .

Do something about it . What i have from my VIP nember in past 4 years when i dont get any convenience instead little convenience which i use  only  on LA forum.
(I am now #1 ladder and i will reset my account coz' i dont see point of palying for psrand get 1800-1900 for no reason.
I DONT HAVE ANY PRIVILEGES ON LA PUBLIC ... Better i reset stats and play with 1550  psr players its more interest and more balanced)

PSR isn't really that relevant anymore, not for me at least. Remember the season when I took a 1350PSR account (joca31) and got 500+ PSR on tours alone and ended as #4 on the server cause I was too lazy to play ladder games? Good times indeed, but still shows how irrelevant PSR can actually be sometimes.

Like I said, just play 4 fun, and play to rape Jeandarc whenever you see him.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 26, 2019, 16:58
i think psr for tours isnt problem if they are dota. Because you still get it for your dota skills but for custom games should be a different ladder because why get psr when you win on jungle race
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 26, 2019, 16:59

Maybe solution could be to set limits where players under 50 or 100 games are limited and kickable by majority, but there would be abuses again.

 Don't see why SS members should be granted special treatment since SS is league on its own.


100 games is low limit .. 1000 + games is fine.
(I got 5000 games ofc i reseting stats almost every month so my stats doesent show my real number of games)

About ss members.  Ofc they need some privileges . WE are more skillfull than other players and typical pub players. AND btw SS players are nothing else but old public palyers or currently pub players. So that must be awarded somehow on LA pub. We also playing lagabuse dota ligue more then everyone else.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: begin on June 26, 2019, 17:13
I wish you started learning how to play dota instead of posting on forum, vlado
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 26, 2019, 17:34
I wish you started learning how to play dota instead of posting on forum, vlado

Stop being jelous on my posts and my invoker .
IT's not my fault coz' your posts that bad and not my fault also coz' your Invoker doesent have more than 3 spells combo.

"If you give God the glory, He will give you the victory.
If you give me Invoker I will bring you victory."
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on June 26, 2019, 17:39
I wish you started learning how to play dota instead of posting on forum, vlado

Stop being jelous on my posts and my invoker .
IT's not my fault coz' your posts that bad and not my fault also coz' your Invoker doesent have more than 3 spells combo.

"If you give God the glory, He will give you the victory.
If you give me Invoker I will bring you victory."

Grimorum's apprentice confirmed.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: .SaLiH. on June 26, 2019, 18:26
did somebody say invoker?
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 26, 2019, 19:03
Arrogance man keep calm :)  I typed him coz' i want to provoke him. Its some kind of joke man ..
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: efko.aqw on June 27, 2019, 01:33

Maybe solution could be to set limits where players under 50 or 100 games are limited and kickable by majority, but there would be abuses again.

 Don't see why SS members should be granted special treatment since SS is league on its own.


100 games is low limit .. 1000 + games is fine.
(I got 5000 games ofc i reseting stats almost every month so my stats doesent show my real number of games)

About ss members.  Ofc they need some privileges . WE are more skillfull than other players and typical pub players. AND btw SS players are nothing else but old public palyers or currently pub players. So that must be awarded somehow on LA pub. We also playing lagabuse dota ligue more then everyone else.
There is just no perfection, and we have to think about all people that wants to play, not to focus on 1 side only. Without autohosting bot its just not possible to leave players without ability to host, but maybe possible to put them somehow under control. I had played less than 50 dota games this year, maybe even less than 20, so as old player if I don't have 1000+ games on some account, why I should not be able to host?!? Logical question. Since my arrival here got much more than 10000 games played in total.
We adjusted the rules so older accounts and accounts with nice amount of games could be more protected and its rare to see now old account to be banned permanently. I was personally for that changes and over years we made the rules to be good for old valuable players.
And to mention, most skilled members are awarded with VIP status, which means for each season there are top players on ladder who are rewarded.

One thing for which I'm spamming Cen almost monthly for about 3-5 years is to change autoban duration, based on amount of games to be from 5 to 3 days or from 7 to 3 days. Current autoban sucks since it goes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, so newly created accounts are privileged and old are with full autoban, so we all have to spam him to change this.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: Meth0d on June 27, 2019, 12:00
I wish you started learning how to play dota instead of posting on forum, vlado

I saw him lose mid with qop vs lich like 1 10 early by lich alone.


You fools, you thinking you can make something of this talk here? Be real its to late already, you should think of this changes before 2, 3 years ago at least.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 27, 2019, 12:41
I lose mid 0 15 sometimes. That is okay. Sometimes you have to learn only Dear Lord is better than you. He gave me signals that i must respect players.  But in almosy every case i dont respect anyone.

Btw Lowth0d you are total irrelevant for any dota discussion. Sry but its true.  Be with that. Also i will not answer anymore on your brainless posts. Sry i know your life  will be much harder.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on June 27, 2019, 16:01
You should've done this kind of penis measurement contest when Dota 1 was relevant. Oh boo hoo, you're better than me on a map made in a 15+ years old game. If it was 2007 I'd totally be ashamed.

It's like saying I'm the best at Heroes 3 while only spamming gay Humans or Necromastery. It's not only extremely irrelevant and quite gay, it's also sad.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: Meth0d on June 27, 2019, 16:02
You only lost your mind, idk either is this is sad or for laugh. :DDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 28, 2019, 19:39
@efko.aqw  @LexMonster @cen  So did any of you decide anything about some change?  Even for 1-2 acc's change ?
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on June 28, 2019, 21:22
Always for lough... 😂😂😂🤣
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on June 28, 2019, 21:25
I have read everything and I understood most of the things, invoker thing about vladan is not so understandable but nvm... However hosting system and accs value should be granted, and that's priority,this should not hqve negative effects on server at all.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: grga_man on June 28, 2019, 21:46
@efko.aqw  @LexMonster @cen  So did any of you decide anything about some change?  Even for 1-2 acc's change ?

i think vladan should be new administrator and implement this changes, take all in your hands and show us that you can do it!  8)
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: begin on June 29, 2019, 01:41
I think grga needs a puss
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 29, 2019, 14:11
You need to make more clear what you want: improvement for lagabuse, privileges for yourself or measure dicks with others
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 29, 2019, 16:41
You should understood what am sayin' in past few posts.
I want changes on la pub and i want privileges for my self as legendary player vip mmember and voucher in ss.
I dont want nothing what i didnt deserved.
 :angel: :student:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on June 30, 2019, 05:52
Can we make the deal, if you win 1 time against me at mid lane you can get your privileges?
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: ClaraSchuman on June 30, 2019, 11:02
Can we make the deal, if you win 1 time against me at mid lane you can get your privileges?

lol  ;D

..hard words..  :angel:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on June 30, 2019, 11:31
Can we make the deal, if you win 1 time against me at mid lane you can get your privileges?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/qN7NZR3Q5R2mY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 30, 2019, 12:06
Can we make the deal, if you win 1 time against me at mid lane you can get your privileges?

When you win me on midlane i will think about vouching you in ss to support me.

Dicsuss with  low skillers (bookey , you ) will put me on your level and you will beat me with experience.

 :/: :/:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: ClaraSchuman on June 30, 2019, 12:14
Can we make the deal, if you win 1 time against me at mid lane you can get your privileges?

When you win me on midlane i will think about vouching you in ss to support me.

Dicsuss with  low skillers (bookey , you ) will put me on your level and you will beat me with experience.

 :/: :/:

auuu  :D :D
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: Jimmy on June 30, 2019, 15:29
No_lifer for Global Super Administrator.
Upvote
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: begin on June 30, 2019, 16:56
!vouched 2/3
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 30, 2019, 19:34
good try but i think same like non ss member cant vouch on ss here non staff member cant vouch for staff, nabs
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on June 30, 2019, 20:52
Hahahaahhhaha.... But I won you every time we have played at mid, should I start posting replays??? 🤣
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: grga_man on June 30, 2019, 21:46
Hahahaahhhaha.... But I won you every time we have played at mid, should I start posting replays??? 🤣

thats past, we are more for future, we believe in no_lifer_xD and i vote for lifer to be new administrator as my pal jimmy said, he is also second on ladder so another plus for him..  :peace:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on June 30, 2019, 21:57
Next action - make admin who is nr1 in ladder every season
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on June 30, 2019, 22:37
Hahahaahhhaha.... But I won you every time we have played at mid, should I start posting replays??? 🤣

Killing me in game is your success.
Chasing my skill level  its fine. 
Back in past I also chased some better players than me.
You will become better day by day  chasing my skill. Keep doing it ...
Have fun and i will not answer to low players anymore.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: Jimmy on July 01, 2019, 02:18
Many players, such dota, very wodota.
Sewer server , +1.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: begin on July 01, 2019, 04:10
lmao XD :boy:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: Meth0d on July 01, 2019, 14:54
Give Jimmy access to icons again to make icon god of cringe lvl9000 for mister ss voucher and legendary vip member. Thats why server died, cuz it cant keep such a power as our legend nobody cant beat him so all left. And now he wants new rules cuz no challenge here anymore. Just imagine having skills like playing voker = win 100%.


Also his anger is terrified:

5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
PLEASE WATCH REPLAYS
Oke fefinitley time to change some things on thi fucking idiotic server.
ADMINS DO SOMETHING DO SMOMETHIG

ADMINS DO SOMETHING WITH SERVER OR WILL RAPE  EVERY ONLINE ADMIN IN your low iq brains FOR DOING NOTHING
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: ClaraSchuman on July 01, 2019, 18:10
 :michael jackson:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on July 01, 2019, 18:35
:michael jackson:

 :marine: :marine: :boy: :michael jackson: :hacker: :like a boss:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: .SaLiH. on July 01, 2019, 19:35
okay, again, someone said invoker
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on July 01, 2019, 20:46
Yo I know this is bitchy, but as a wannabe memelord I gotta do it...

@No_LiFeR_xD

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6209388

28:21 [All] Harambe killed Soovyet
28:23 [All] Harambe killed pb..
28:37 [All] Harambe killed THE_BORN_KING
28:50 [All] Harambe killed No_LiFeR_xD

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/498/058/570.jpg)
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: begin on July 01, 2019, 21:37
harambe = nikolagay?  :alien: :shit: :alien:
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on July 01, 2019, 21:54
Yo I know this is bitchy, but as a wannabe memelord I gotta do it...

@No_LiFeR_xD

http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6209388

28:21 [All] Harambe killed Soovyet
28:23 [All] Harambe killed pb..
28:37 [All] Harambe killed THE_BORN_KING
28:50 [All] Harambe killed No_LiFeR_xD

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/498/058/570.jpg)

@nikolagay

Wp master you finaly prove that you can play better than 1300 players(those 3 palyers ). COngratz.
(btw analize game once more and you will see how good i am )


http://prntscr.com/o97n8x
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: LexMonster on July 01, 2019, 22:29
@efko.aqw  @LexMonster @cen  So did any of you decide anything about some change?  Even for 1-2 acc's change ?
What changes are you actually referring to?

Give Jimmy access to icons again to make icon god of cringe lvl9000 for mister ss voucher and legendary vip member. Thats why server died, cuz it cant keep such a power as our legend nobody cant beat him so all left. And now he wants new rules cuz no challenge here anymore. Just imagine having skills like playing voker = win 100%.


Also his anger is terrified:

5: Explain to us your general vision about the situation.
PLEASE WATCH REPLAYS
Oke fefinitley time to change some things on thi fucking idiotic server.
ADMINS DO SOMETHING DO SMOMETHIG

ADMINS DO SOMETHING WITH SERVER OR WILL RAPE  EVERY ONLINE ADMIN IN your low iq brains FOR DOING NOTHING
No_LiFeR_xD - !warned for threatening staff members
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on July 01, 2019, 22:31
Needless to say I'm trolling, but if you really want something to analyze, let's start with this:

My most recent games here:
(https://i.imgur.com/yHRrDIp.png)

VS

Your recent games here:


(https://i.imgur.com/uTurrfo.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/iarBipa.png)

I'll take the 1300PSR sarcasm comment as a compliment, because fuck me if I know how I still manage to do better than some people here...

P.S. If we're really going to be petty about this, there are quite a few things we can analyze from that game.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on July 01, 2019, 22:45
Needless to say I'm trolling, but if you really want something to analyze, let's start with this:

My most recent games here:
(https://i.imgur.com/yHRrDIp.png)

VS

Your recent games here:


(https://i.imgur.com/uTurrfo.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/iarBipa.png)

I'll take the 1300PSR sarcasm comment as a compliment, because fuck me if I know how I still manage to do better than some people here...

P.S. If we're really going to be petty about this, there are quite a few things we can analyze from that game.


Your brother said to me you play on other server so dont talk about recent games pls coz' you are definitley active player. Btw maybe you play on 10 accounts like 90% of server .
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on July 01, 2019, 22:48
@LexMonster
1 or maximum 2 accounts per person ?  And some privileges for VIP players or not just for vips for any good player ?
But at least try something about acc's  tnx .
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: No_LiFeR_xD on July 01, 2019, 22:50
@LexMonster
1 or maximum 2 accounts per person ?  And some privileges for VIP players.
But at least try something about acc's  tnx .

Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: nikolagay on July 01, 2019, 23:15
Your brother said to me you play on other server so dont talk about recent games pls coz' you are definitley active player. Btw maybe you play on 10 accounts like 90% of server .

Probably not the time, place, or the topic for this discussion, but alright.

Playing Survival Chaos and Legion TD every now and then on GameRanger, simply cause I'm too lazy to figure out how to fix the 1.28 patch (since once 1.30 was released the client won't start a separate game installation). Switched to Dota Underlords quite recently because my PC can surprisingly support it without any major FPS drops. Used to play some games on Battle.net before 1.30 came out, afterwards, with all the "oopsies" Blizzard did, I just gave up.

Meanwhile, looking at your gaming history here, by the time you played some games I gained 40 pounds, then lost around 45 pounds, switched between three different jobs, stopped playing half the games I normally played, I'm currently working on getting a girlfriend and I recently became a QA tester and started working today. So yea, I figured that was probably more important than being #1 on Lagabuse, but looking at all the glory you gained, perhaps I was wrong.

Again, if we're going to be petty here, I don't recall seeing you here when PSR and Dota 1 in general was actually relevant. Just saying. I also don't recall seeing you on many tournaments once I was active on those. I don't recall your name ever being mentioned once SS had actual good players, once IHRL was active, or in fact, at anytime before Dota 2 was released. If we're making childish assumptions, we could just assume you waited for Dota 1 to be dead enough and to lose enough players to break through the lowest form of what's left of it. We could also say that you're doing the classic PSR system exploit, excessively spamming games and just making sure that you're passing 50% win rate, cause losing more than 1 PSR at that level is a known rarity.

So yea, I mean, I do have the tendency to be a bad troll and a dick, but at least I'm keeping it real most of the time. I could argue on and on with you on this topic, and I know I'd eventually win that debate (because I'm quite a pain in the ass when I put my mindset into something), but it's pointless to argue with you in this state, and it goes way past the point of usual bad trolling I do.

Frankly speaking, I can't say I was ever the best here, but I did have my share of glory days, and I'm definitely glad I never built up an ego as massive as yours.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on July 01, 2019, 23:24
I certainly agree on 1 thing - the current PSR system is really bad as mentioned in other topics already. Its more about activity than skill, if you play 10 games, win 5 and lose 5 you will be in + in terms of PSR. This is how i could get 1700 without trying, by simply playing a lot
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: LexMonster on July 01, 2019, 23:55
@LexMonster
1 or maximum 2 accounts per person ?  And some privileges for VIP players or not just for vips for any good player ?
But at least try something about acc's  tnx .
Limiting accounts per player is impossible (or very likely possible) to do, besides, if you want this to be done just to avoid playing with leavers/game ruiners, we have IP lock for such things.
With regards to privileges for VIP players, they already have some, however, I will open topic in private section and discuss this with other staff members.

@nikolagay QA - all the way! Thumbs up  :y:

@FatAndViolent Indeed, but I'd also say activity = learning. Doesnt that make an active player skilled, as the time passes? Regardless of player's skill, he will keep on progressing, the more he plays.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: AGENT on July 02, 2019, 00:37
Indeed, but I'd also say activity = learning. Doesnt that make an active player skilled, as the time passes? Regardless of player's skill, he will keep on progressing, the more he plays.
Maybe in some cases, like 10% of current players here, but other 90% are still playing it like it is 6.78. Same build for heroes (lothar is a MUST), same gameplay, 0 knowledge of role plays, etc..
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on July 02, 2019, 04:56
You cant change that about players, they doesn't understand what they are supose to do with specific heroes and things about situations items, offlaner, safe lane carry... But I m trying to make the games better and manny rhest thing, first at all i started from myself and i m changing some bad manners I got... I felt like that I need to say this. Glorious life for everyone especially for you mr no_lifer legend.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on July 02, 2019, 05:15
Clasical example about bad picks and rly bad items decisions, lothar power is real...
This is just 1 game in billion sadly...
http://dota.eurobattle.net/la/forum/index.php?action=gameinfo;sa=game;gid=6209559
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: .SaLiH. on July 02, 2019, 15:28
Indeed, but I'd also say activity = learning. Doesnt that make an active player skilled, as the time passes? Regardless of player's skill, he will keep on progressing, the more he plays.
Maybe in some cases, like 10% of current players here, but other 90% are still playing it like it is 6.78. Same build for heroes (lothar is a MUST), same gameplay, 0 knowledge of role plays, etc..
I agree with Agent.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: AGENT on July 02, 2019, 15:31
I agree with Agent.
Thank you for agreement.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: FatAndViolent on July 02, 2019, 15:43
Idk, i see lothar every game, even in last game lich (!) made lothar as 1 item (!) vs sladar (!!).

I think most people here dont play competitive, they just come from work, pop a beer and play game without caring. Some individuals come high/drunk and cant do anything useful too. I for example dont care but dont do retarded stuff either - only if team is polite i start try win game. Maybe only few actually care about game at all and they keep posting here and complain.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: myprecious on July 02, 2019, 23:40
Ye but improving games and get good game is always welcomed for everyone.
Title: Re: Hosting system
Post by: efko.aqw on July 03, 2019, 21:22
Important news, in next days we will probably change Autoban system, so instead of going for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 days for new accounts and having old accounts punished with usually 7 days autoban, this will be changed so autobans will depend on number of games played.