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Title: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Bart on November 02, 2018, 20:22
Omg new looks are insane.
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Deynro on November 02, 2018, 20:47
Y, great news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nMVrWvbz5w
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Deynro on November 02, 2018, 20:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oVk9G53LP8
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Jedivh on November 02, 2018, 21:11
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/447388088293916708/508010123588010014/unknown.png)

Holy shiiiit, that's insane!
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: efko.aqw on November 02, 2018, 21:55
Its a good news for PG players only. Also good news for blizzard and their budget, but bad news for players who payed for old good wc3 and for custom maps.
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Astaroth on November 04, 2018, 21:00
All these remasters... Its like those devs would say "We can't make good RTS anymore, we will have to re-sell you our old games."

Isn't it lame?
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: luke on November 04, 2018, 21:55
Im sure they will add some kind of lootboxes too
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: div.ide on November 05, 2018, 05:38
Community seems to be taking this better than Diablo Immortal at least. Still, why would I buy this? I don't care about graphics, and I've already played the game, so what is in it for me?
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: beastiary on November 05, 2018, 06:34
Community seems to be taking this better than Diablo Immortal at least. Still, why would I buy this? I don't care about graphics, and I've already played the game, so what is in it for me?

nothing indeed
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: luke on November 05, 2018, 17:08
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Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: div.ide on November 05, 2018, 17:10
On a second thought, there's a chance they deliver on this specific part:
(https://i.imgur.com/YrbfhWX.png)
But I mean, deliver, including (but not limited to) better hotkey and ability icon management, better UI scalability (for both high and low resolutions and various aspect ratios), more powerful map editor lifting old engine limitations, and redone netcode with better built-in online lobbies and hosting (and let's be honest, they'd better allow third-party hostbots still).
Not likely, but would make that whole project actually worth something.

A new followup campaign would be sweet, even if it means creating alternative timeline from WoW. But that's unfortunately not going to happen.
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: na_kacu on November 05, 2018, 18:05
This blizzcon was really fail. Creating a good game is hard, but to develop and make sequels is even harder. I just hope that this company will try to fix that and not just try to get as more money as possible.

Btw there is now trend to remaster old games and add new graphic like with Age of Empire
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Bart on November 05, 2018, 20:23
you guys are right, this blizzcon was the worst in last couple years....

25euros for this remaster is big fu to old fan/gamers of this beatiful game

also diablo on mobile is NO comment...

every year i wish for wc4 and diablo4 with long playtime like diablo2 not d3....
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: MyUberNick on November 05, 2018, 21:14
On a second thought, there's a chance they deliver on this specific part:
(https://i.imgur.com/YrbfhWX.png)
But I mean, deliver, including (but not limited to) better hotkey and ability icon management, better UI scalability (for both high and low resolutions and various aspect ratios), more powerful map editor lifting old engine limitations, and redone netcode with better built-in online lobbies and hosting (and let's be honest, they'd better allow third-party hostbots still).
Not likely, but would make that whole project actually worth something.

A new followup campaign would be sweet, even if it means creating alternative timeline from WoW. But that's unfortunately not going to happen.

As it stands currently hostbots will not be allowed :(, I really hope they change their mind regarding this and not go out of their way to make it hard for the community to develop hostbots. Hostbots played a large part of keeping this game alive for the last >10 years.

Here's a petition you can sign to try to fight this: https://www.change.org/p/blizzard-return-hosting-bot-functionality-in-the-next-warcraft-3-patch
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: luke on November 05, 2018, 21:27
Tried all already, there will be no need for hostbots and they don't want to allow them
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: na_kacu on November 05, 2018, 22:45
No hostbots, but you will have a lot of lotboxes for $$ :). Too bad this company is becoming 2nd EA
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Astaroth on November 06, 2018, 15:27
you guys are right, this blizzcon was the worst in last couple years....

25euros for this remaster is big fu to old fan/gamers of this beatiful game

also diablo on mobile is NO comment...

every year i wish for wc4 and diablo4 with long playtime like diablo2 not d3....
There are still some rumours about Diablo 4 being developed. Recruitment for some unannounced game from Diablo world, a Diablo 4 video that should have been shown at BlizzCon...

If you manage to sell over 30 million copies of a game, you will go for sequel.

But I still do not understand why did they remade StarCraft and Warcraft 3... And Diablo for mobile.
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: div.ide on November 06, 2018, 17:35
I read somewhere that apparently they want reforged to be straight up compatible with classic WCIII, so improving on a number of the weaker aspects of the game (hello online hosting, how are you) is out of the window.

I mean, don't get me wrong, redone UI is nice, higher definiton, to some extent, is  called for, and from what I've seen overall feel of the game is familiar (http://youtube.com/watch?v=x5caBx1qc3E), but outside of graphical aspect and easier setup (why should that even be considered a selling point is beyond me) there's nothing that even tries to warrant a purchase.
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: luke on November 06, 2018, 17:47
They just need it to make all the old 2003-2018 players buy it and also maybe attract some new ones to make money. Basically parasiting on nostalgia. I bet that they won't update anything major after the hype is gone unless ofc they will enable lootboxes which they will probably do (you can already get some "premium" stuff if you prepurchase)
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Astaroth on November 07, 2018, 06:58
As far as I know, the premium stuff is WoW skin, Heartstone cards and HotS heroes. Or is there anything else?

I also don't see how would lootboxes in WCC3 work...
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Jedivh on November 07, 2018, 11:36
As far as I know, the premium stuff is WoW skin, Heartstone cards and HotS heroes. Or is there anything else?

I also don't see how would lootboxes in WCC3 work...
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Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: MelencoliA on December 10, 2018, 14:20
Hopefully Wc3 gets alive again  :student:
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Natura Sonoris on January 04, 2019, 01:38
you guys are right, this blizzcon was the worst in last couple years....

25euros for this remaster is big fu to old fan/gamers of this beatiful game

also diablo on mobile is NO comment...

every year i wish for wc4 and diablo4 with long playtime like diablo2 not d3....

Remastering from bottom up costs money. These are not upscales, they are re-design models.

I am looking forward for this upgrade. I have already pre order it with WOW mount package. I think this is a smart move for Blizzard (for w3 at least). They remastered their oldest and most popular game back in those days and then they continued with the story in Wow. So this means they have plans for Warcraft 4 or at least, they will test the grounds with this remaster. Why ? Because w3 and w4 would be many years apart so many players would not accept that good. We are all used to this funky looking graphics of w3. So they are taking no risk at all (and they have done with Starcraft already and turned out good) with this remaster. And most important thing... they actually changed w3 a lot to see if players are ready to accept this. It is like d2 test. Turns out that dota2 for dota1 players (overall) was positive change. So time will tell.

No hostbots, but you will have a lot of lotboxes for $$ :). Too bad this company is becoming 2nd EA

This business model created a stir in the market. After all, game companies have a goal to make money. So if something it is profitable, they will do it. Skins in dota2 turned out to be good move. On the other hand EA abused that system.
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: Dowler on January 24, 2019, 16:22
I'm happy to pay 25 euros for this. I've gotten literally thousands of hours of entertainment out of Warcraft 3 and all the minigames that I played for years. Hard to argue with that value and I'm sure I'll get plenty out of Reforged as well.
Title: Re: Warcraft Reforged
Post by: luke on January 25, 2019, 17:30
But you are paying activision now