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General Section => General Discussions => Feedback => Topic started by: Shadow on May 16, 2011, 09:42
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( I know there somewhere was topic like that, but I see no problem to open another one, because this topic is, was and will be discussed many times)
So I found out, that since this command has been added in dota, every game lasts for 25 minutes. I know its good to have an option to make the game shorter when u obviously dont have chance to win and save time. Thats ok. But now all u have to do is to break middle lane and you won. Game is over lol. Opponents ffed. So I would suggest folowing:
!ff command is enabled from 25 minute. Thats good. But it should be enabled lets say when difference between sentinels and scourge kills is more then twenty. U get it? Sentinels 35 and scourge 12. Or do you have other idea about that standard?
I really think this !ff command should be changed somehow.
Best regards
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!ff command is enabled from 25 minute. Thats good. But it should be enabled lets say when difference between sentinels and scourge kills is more then twenty. U get it? Sentinels 35 and scourge 12. Or do you have other idea about that standard?
It's a good idea, because sometimes people vote for forfeit even if they die few times but still have chance to win.
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Maybe the !ff command should be enabled when all the creep producing buildings are destroyed.
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I dont need 20 deaths to understand if is a team is imba noob
In my op. 25 mins r too many! I would enable this whitouth the time limit.
!ff is a great command to save time, do u know why u want the difference?
Easy, to improve stats in a game won, so i dont agree with u
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Game is forfeited when all 5 players vote to !FF i.e. not when only 1 or 4 players vote.
Anyone stopping to play or starting to feed or starting to ruining the game before everyone votes to !FF can be banned.
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It wont help, then people will charge on enemy just to die and get that diffrence of 20 kills...If u could make !ff on 35th min it would be nice or even better on 40th min. And u need to make auto mh check that would help a lot...
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It would be best to enable !ff command between 20th and 40th min...because a few times my team and I waited since 18-19 min till 25 to ff,but there were many time that game was good,and after 40-50 min or so,when we pushed 1-3 sides,they dont let us finish,they just ff...yea,I know...we still get win,and score,but they take away that feeling when Ur winning and thats a bit selfish....so,It would be great that u reduce time a bit for !ff but to disable it after some time,so the losing team cant just take away the victory...it's just not fair=S
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sometimes when i get more than 1 imbicile in team i wish ff was enabled since 10th min
so id rather say it should be decreased in time or left as it is also there is tons of good games if host actualy kicks all the noobs and keeps atleast "mid" skill players
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It would be best to enable !ff command between 20th and 40th min...because a few times my team and I waited since 18-19 min till 25 to ff,but there were many time that game was good,and after 40-50 min or so,when we pushed 1-3 sides,they dont let us finish,they just ff...yea,I know...we still get win,and score,but they take away that feeling when Ur winning and thats a bit selfish....so,It would be great that u reduce time a bit for !ff but to disable it after some time,so the losing team cant just take away the victory...it's just not fair=S
Sometimes its better to !ff than get hooked from fountain by pudge or rubick.
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Can some1 add a poll so we can vote on the issue? i would vote on 15 min mark...
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Can some1 add a poll so we can vote on the issue?
That is not such a bad idea...but it is not up to us...
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Can some1 add a poll so we can vote on the issue? i would vote on 15 min mark...
10th/15th Minute mark will be great. I played a lot of games with "LOW-SKILL" players and wanted to !ff since min 10 but i had to wait till min 25... It's kind of anoying...
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Would be nice if !ff is enabled between 25-30 min, u can choose if u want to forfeit or if u want play till end :)
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I am fine with 25 min limit. I wouldn´t even be against 30 min but its just a dream.
But I like the idea of allowing !ff only when there is certain diference in kills. Or it could be difference in destroyed racks. Or allow it when Tree/Throne towers are gone. There are many possibilities.
Just played a game when opposing team made 3x !ff when we killed few of them in forest. In that time we have not pushed any side yet! Luckily the forfeit didn´t pass and we played that game for next 20 minutes when each team pushed one side. It was well-balanced and full of kills on both teams till the very dramatic end. [Just and example of how sometimes people recklesly forfeit even in balanced situations]
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I am fine with 25 min limit. I wouldn´t even be against 30 min but its just a dream.
But I like the idea of allowing !ff only when there is certain diference in kills. Or it could be difference in destroyed racks. Or allow it when Tree/Throne towers are gone. There are many possibilities.
Just played a game when opposing team made 3x !ff when we killed few of them in forest. In that time we have not pushed any side yet! Luckily the forfeit didn´t pass and we played that game for next 20 minutes when each team pushed one side. It was well-balanced and full of kills on both teams till the very dramatic end. [Just and example of how sometimes people recklesly forfeit even in balanced situations]
And thats why ff should be enabled from certain specified time to till specified time...
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I'd more like to have an !unff command to take back !ff I wrote earlier. It happened some times that we had an afker, the game without him would be lost, then he came back (only he didn't ff) and after a while we managed to keep up. And then this last one types !ff in a situation where we can win again...
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I am fine with 25 min limit. I wouldn´t even be against 30 min but its just a dream.
But I like the idea of allowing !ff only when there is certain diference in kills. Or it could be difference in destroyed racks. Or allow it when Tree/Throne towers are gone. There are many possibilities.
Just played a game when opposing team made 3x !ff when we killed few of them in forest. In that time we have not pushed any side yet! Luckily the forfeit didn´t pass and we played that game for next 20 minutes when each team pushed one side. It was well-balanced and full of kills on both teams till the very dramatic end. [Just and example of how sometimes people recklesly forfeit even in balanced situations]
And thats why ff should be enabled from certain specified time to till specified time...
But there is a one small problem: none of us are able to determine, what part of a game is that "key part", when loosing team has no chance to turn the game. Its mid game, so we set time 20-30? Or first 15 minutes? Morover, every game differs in that timing. I would let it be as it is, its the best compromise.
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I dont understand the timelimit of 25
is bad, rly bad because if 5 ppl decide to ff means that they all agree...mby the mistaked and could still win but doesnt matter if they agree in 5. That is their right so why 25 mins?
If 1 doesnt want becouse he think they can win he doesnt ff...easy, rly easy