I'm too good to play 1 hero, so I'm playing 5 in same time... meepo ofc.
Mine is SF, by a large margin, always has been stylish, and it's even better to play now since many heroes got much better while he remained almost the same, he can be countered very easily by more than half the hero pool or by specific game styles or items, which provides an extra challenge, which is nice. My other favorites are ... voker/potm/tinker/pudge/sniper/qop/viper/es/crix/magnus/... and almost all of them.I like to play many heroes, well, all heroes except omni tc roof wisp phoneix legion kaolin axe ck doom aba pit bara sylla luna lancer troll nerubass geo medusa warden silencer wr sky oracle bane seer bat dazzle.I don't like to play these mentioned because they are either WAY too good (so it's not fun because it's too easy with them, like legion or axe or warden or oracle or kaolin or sky for example), either because they are way too boring (like dazzle for example, walk around and wait some fights, heal and grave, a slow sometimes, cast ulti, wow, so exciting), either because they have a way too obsessive gameplay and because of that I feel really bad while playing them, I mean, how can you not feel like a completely obsessed retard when you pick bat and just go around perma using ult on someone, same with bara, same with doom, etc. That's just way too lame for my taste.What about you ?
Quote from: CoMMoN1337 on August 12, 2014, 18:14Mine is SF, by a large margin, always has been stylish, and it's even better to play now since many heroes got much better while he remained almost the same, he can be countered very easily by more than half the hero pool or by specific game styles or items, which provides an extra challenge, which is nice. My other favorites are ... voker/potm/tinker/pudge/sniper/qop/viper/es/crix/magnus/... and almost all of them.I like to play many heroes, well, all heroes except omni tc roof wisp phoneix legion kaolin axe ck doom aba pit bara sylla luna lancer troll nerubass geo medusa warden silencer wr sky oracle bane seer bat dazzle.I don't like to play these mentioned because they are either WAY too good (so it's not fun because it's too easy with them, like legion or axe or warden or oracle or kaolin or sky for example), either because they are way too boring (like dazzle for example, walk around and wait some fights, heal and grave, a slow sometimes, cast ulti, wow, so exciting), either because they have a way too obsessive gameplay and because of that I feel really bad while playing them, I mean, how can you not feel like a completely obsessed retard when you pick bat and just go around perma using ult on someone, same with bara, same with doom, etc. That's just way too lame for my taste.What about you ?I agree with lets say 60% of those gay/boring heroes,even tho i play a lot of them,but how on earth did u get dazzle into that group ? u can play that guy in 100 ways,not just little bit of heal/slow/grave action (try medallion ac deso like i told u once).The hero is so good in so many ways,which is something u probably never realised because uve never truly played him,but hes far more interesting than lets say viper.Other heroes i dont agree with on the list because they can be quite fun actually are wisp,sylla,luna,troll(quite unexpected,eh),medusa,wr,and really,as weak as a hero can be,u have that skywrath mage,a mid hero that cant farm fast,in 90% of the cases relies on a billion mana ulti to get solo kills,no hp,no armor,no escape mechanism or any deffensive spell,hes also both item and level dependable,and i guess the only couple of good things good thing about him are base ms,a great lane dominance spell,and ulti that decimates noobs who cant think well enough to juke it or simply get a 2250 gold item.My point is that sky is really overrated,and not that good of a hero.Personally,i like melee supports/offlane heroes.Firstly shaker,hes my favourite simply because hes quite a versatile hero,which a lot of people dont realise.Usually buying blink>agha/veil>refresh,shiva,hex or whatever is the most standard way of playing the hero,but people forget about totem quite a lot.Getting a buriza on shaker gives u the rare situation of a support hero hitting higher crits than one of hardest carries in the game,mort,and its also gets a lot more interesting once u start snowballing,which u cant do as good with the blink agha build.If u get lucky on that one totem hit,u have a 1,1-1,3k crit with only buriza as ur damage item.Also i could add that hes one of the best 6slotted 1v1ers,if u give him some damage items,a hex and an abbysal,ure looking at about 10 seconds of disable,in which the hero can kill pretty much any hero outright.Other than him,i like clock,bristle,bat,crix,tide and wr
Quote from: UltimateTroll on August 12, 2014, 21:03Quote from: CoMMoN1337 on August 12, 2014, 18:14Mine is SF, by a large margin, always has been stylish, and it's even better to play now since many heroes got much better while he remained almost the same, he can be countered very easily by more than half the hero pool or by specific game styles or items, which provides an extra challenge, which is nice. My other favorites are ... voker/potm/tinker/pudge/sniper/qop/viper/es/crix/magnus/... and almost all of them.I like to play many heroes, well, all heroes except omni tc roof wisp phoneix legion kaolin axe ck doom aba pit bara sylla luna lancer troll nerubass geo medusa warden silencer wr sky oracle bane seer bat dazzle.I don't like to play these mentioned because they are either WAY too good (so it's not fun because it's too easy with them, like legion or axe or warden or oracle or kaolin or sky for example), either because they are way too boring (like dazzle for example, walk around and wait some fights, heal and grave, a slow sometimes, cast ulti, wow, so exciting), either because they have a way too obsessive gameplay and because of that I feel really bad while playing them, I mean, how can you not feel like a completely obsessed retard when you pick bat and just go around perma using ult on someone, same with bara, same with doom, etc. That's just way too lame for my taste.What about you ?I agree with lets say 60% of those gay/boring heroes,even tho i play a lot of them,but how on earth did u get dazzle into that group ? u can play that guy in 100 ways,not just little bit of heal/slow/grave action (try medallion ac deso like i told u once).The hero is so good in so many ways,which is something u probably never realised because uve never truly played him,but hes far more interesting than lets say viper.Other heroes i dont agree with on the list because they can be quite fun actually are wisp,sylla,luna,troll(quite unexpected,eh),medusa,wr,and really,as weak as a hero can be,u have that skywrath mage,a mid hero that cant farm fast,in 90% of the cases relies on a billion mana ulti to get solo kills,no hp,no armor,no escape mechanism or any deffensive spell,hes also both item and level dependable,and i guess the only couple of good things good thing about him are base ms,a great lane dominance spell,and ulti that decimates noobs who cant think well enough to juke it or simply get a 2250 gold item.My point is that sky is really overrated,and not that good of a hero.Personally,i like melee supports/offlane heroes.Firstly shaker,hes my favourite simply because hes quite a versatile hero,which a lot of people dont realise.Usually buying blink>agha/veil>refresh,shiva,hex or whatever is the most standard way of playing the hero,but people forget about totem quite a lot.Getting a buriza on shaker gives u the rare situation of a support hero hitting higher crits than one of hardest carries in the game,mort,and its also gets a lot more interesting once u start snowballing,which u cant do as good with the blink agha build.If u get lucky on that one totem hit,u have a 1,1-1,3k crit with only buriza as ur damage item.Also i could add that hes one of the best 6slotted 1v1ers,if u give him some damage items,a hex and an abbysal,ure looking at about 10 seconds of disable,in which the hero can kill pretty much any hero outright.Other than him,i like clock,bristle,bat,crix,tide and wrMedalion is fine on every hero. If you wanna go deso ac, there are plenty of other heroes to do that, dazzle is great to protect a much more powerful carry than "dazzle with deso ac", yea fine it can work, but anything can work here vs retards, that doesn't make it good. Seriously, there are plenty of other heroes which aren't standard deso ac builders that work much better than dazzle, like lina for example because of attackspeed passive, or even cm because with fast attackspeed she attacks quite good and she has a faster "stun", the most important thing when you go these items on heroes which don't "normally" get them is how much you can actually hit, dazzle is much smaller range than lina/cm, so they are better at it than him, sure, you might hit some retard who perma sits near ur dazzle just cuz he has 1 hp and u use grave, but if no one is that stupid you won't hit that much.Wisp I don't like because it's weak individually, it relies far too much on others, I don't like that. If you wanna play it well individually you have to keep waiting for openings, meaning you have to wait your opponents to do something stupid, wisp is played well together with ppl which you know that they aren't retards, if you play wisp with randoms in your team then you are nothing less than a masochist.Sylla I don't like playing it because it's too powerful in pubs if played properly, no one bothers focusing you, you get fast radi and then you just get out of control, nothing they can do shortly after, you farm way too fast and are too tanky, a well coordinated strike on you would kill you but then your allies rape them because they were left alone. So it's very boring.Luna is as squishy as a sniper, and has much, much lower range, if I want to play a hero that has to be extremely careful to rape, then I'd rather sniper because he has bigger range, I really don't like luna. Plus she can be too easy to play in some situations when you just ulti once and kill the entire enemy team (if you wait properly before it), and then it's far too easy to win because she farms too fast, so that's lame.Troll has a bash (and DOES rely on it) = luck dependant. I hate luck dependant heroes with passion.Medusa is too powerful if left alone, and she very often is left alone, her new ulti is way too good. She is just far too easy to rape with if you are careful, I don't like that.WR I hate because of shackle, sometimes you make a perfect line and it doesn't work, sometimes you throw it like a braindead retard and it stuns in 90 degree angle. I hate it a lot.Sky is far too good. You probably just never played vs a good sky, all his faults, don't matter, when he can just fucking kill you because IF he has mana, he WILL kill you. Clarities, basi, bottle, wand, that's all he needs early, when he is extremely low on mana he just goes to base to heal, re-fill bottle, and also in the meantime he has a chance to PROPERLY look at the map to see a good lane for gank, go there and rape that lane too. His ulti cannot be dodged if he has a rod of atos (and he WILL get the rod of atos fast because he will fucking KILL you early), with sky slow and rod of atos you just almost stand still and watch yourself die, he can silence you too so there's nothing you can do to escape, if you don't have a bkb/eul you're dead, and chances are you won't get a bkb/eul because he will just permanently kill you before you get the chance to get even close to them. Far too good = far too lame for my taste.Es is a horrible 6slotted 1v1 vs a proper 6slotted carry 1v1, reason ? BKB. Say goodbye to your stuns. Then what's left is that carry having either evasion, or some immobilization vs you, and your es doesn't even do 1 dmg before he dies. Void for example, can kill es no matter what items es has, without receiving even 1 dmg from es if he just gets a bkb and the rest of the items according to what you have on es. Spoiler for Hiden: If you have ghost/eul he can go for a diffusal instead of a divine to disable them after he chronoes you, if you have blink and dodge his ult, he can just get a blink too instead of a divine cancel his ulti then blink at you and ulti you, if you have a refresher he gets one too instead of a divine, if you have 6 hearts, he goes bkb mom 3 divines buriza and kills you without any problems, if you have 5 hearts and butterfly he goes mom bkb 2 divines buriza mkb and you still die (I don't remember if void can miss in chrono without mkb or not, maybe he can't, but even if he can't he can still go mkb just for fun, because he still easily kills you), the point is there's nothing you can do, you die without even doing 1 damage to him.Also, praying for crits is no way to properly win a game trol. It works, but that's definetly not something you should be planning ahead for, that should only be used when there are no other options, otherwise if you just don't crit it's money pretty much wasted.Dagon 3 for example costs pretty much the same as buriza, and you are GUARANTEED to "hit" with it because no luck involved (if some bkb, wait it to expire, if some linken, tell ally to cancel it, if magic resistance, well, yea, but your crit suffers from armor too), from far safe distance, and it's not that big of a cooldown, also improves your mana pool for more spammings, and you can also upg it to lvl 5, yea, the dmg is a bit lower than crit, maybe a lot lower, but it is still guaranteed not luck dependant and also you don't have to be in melee range to do it = you are in a far safer position, + much easier buildup + before you get the level 3 you get levels 1 and 2, which you can use to kill with, obviously, again from safe position unlike melee-range-crystalys-crit-hit-praying, then more gold, then more upg, then more rape, you get the ideea.Suddenly long post, huh.
Spoiler for Hiden: [Quote from: CoMMoN1337 on August 12, 2014, 22:33Quote from: UltimateTroll on August 12, 2014, 21:03Quote from: CoMMoN1337 on August 12, 2014, 18:14Mine is SF, by a large margin, always has been stylish, and it's even better to play now since many heroes got much better while he remained almost the same, he can be countered very easily by more than half the hero pool or by specific game styles or items, which provides an extra challenge, which is nice. My other favorites are ... voker/potm/tinker/pudge/sniper/qop/viper/es/crix/magnus/... and almost all of them.I like to play many heroes, well, all heroes except omni tc roof wisp phoneix legion kaolin axe ck doom aba pit bara sylla luna lancer troll nerubass geo medusa warden silencer wr sky oracle bane seer bat dazzle.I don't like to play these mentioned because they are either WAY too good (so it's not fun because it's too easy with them, like legion or axe or warden or oracle or kaolin or sky for example), either because they are way too boring (like dazzle for example, walk around and wait some fights, heal and grave, a slow sometimes, cast ulti, wow, so exciting), either because they have a way too obsessive gameplay and because of that I feel really bad while playing them, I mean, how can you not feel like a completely obsessed retard when you pick bat and just go around perma using ult on someone, same with bara, same with doom, etc. That's just way too lame for my taste.What about you ?I agree with lets say 60% of those gay/boring heroes,even tho i play a lot of them,but how on earth did u get dazzle into that group ? u can play that guy in 100 ways,not just little bit of heal/slow/grave action (try medallion ac deso like i told u once).The hero is so good in so many ways,which is something u probably never realised because uve never truly played him,but hes far more interesting than lets say viper.Other heroes i dont agree with on the list because they can be quite fun actually are wisp,sylla,luna,troll(quite unexpected,eh),medusa,wr,and really,as weak as a hero can be,u have that skywrath mage,a mid hero that cant farm fast,in 90% of the cases relies on a billion mana ulti to get solo kills,no hp,no armor,no escape mechanism or any deffensive spell,hes also both item and level dependable,and i guess the only couple of good things good thing about him are base ms,a great lane dominance spell,and ulti that decimates noobs who cant think well enough to juke it or simply get a 2250 gold item.My point is that sky is really overrated,and not that good of a hero.Personally,i like melee supports/offlane heroes.Firstly shaker,hes my favourite simply because hes quite a versatile hero,which a lot of people dont realise.Usually buying blink>agha/veil>refresh,shiva,hex or whatever is the most standard way of playing the hero,but people forget about totem quite a lot.Getting a buriza on shaker gives u the rare situation of a support hero hitting higher crits than one of hardest carries in the game,mort,and its also gets a lot more interesting once u start snowballing,which u cant do as good with the blink agha build.If u get lucky on that one totem hit,u have a 1,1-1,3k crit with only buriza as ur damage item.Also i could add that hes one of the best 6slotted 1v1ers,if u give him some damage items,a hex and an abbysal,ure looking at about 10 seconds of disable,in which the hero can kill pretty much any hero outright.Other than him,i like clock,bristle,bat,crix,tide and wrMedalion is fine on every hero. If you wanna go deso ac, there are plenty of other heroes to do that, dazzle is great to protect a much more powerful carry than "dazzle with deso ac", yea fine it can work, but anything can work here vs retards, that doesn't make it good. Seriously, there are plenty of other heroes which aren't standard deso ac builders that work much better than dazzle, like lina for example because of attackspeed passive, or even cm because with fast attackspeed she attacks quite good and she has a faster "stun", the most important thing when you go these items on heroes which don't "normally" get them is how much you can actually hit, dazzle is much smaller range than lina/cm, so they are better at it than him, sure, you might hit some retard who perma sits near ur dazzle just cuz he has 1 hp and u use grave, but if no one is that stupid you won't hit that much.Wisp I don't like because it's weak individually, it relies far too much on others, I don't like that. If you wanna play it well individually you have to keep waiting for openings, meaning you have to wait your opponents to do something stupid, wisp is played well together with ppl which you know that they aren't retards, if you play wisp with randoms in your team then you are nothing less than a masochist.Sylla I don't like playing it because it's too powerful in pubs if played properly, no one bothers focusing you, you get fast radi and then you just get out of control, nothing they can do shortly after, you farm way too fast and are too tanky, a well coordinated strike on you would kill you but then your allies rape them because they were left alone. So it's very boring.Luna is as squishy as a sniper, and has much, much lower range, if I want to play a hero that has to be extremely careful to rape, then I'd rather sniper because he has bigger range, I really don't like luna. Plus she can be too easy to play in some situations when you just ulti once and kill the entire enemy team (if you wait properly before it), and then it's far too easy to win because she farms too fast, so that's lame.Troll has a bash (and DOES rely on it) = luck dependant. I hate luck dependant heroes with passion.Medusa is too powerful if left alone, and she very often is left alone, her new ulti is way too good. She is just far too easy to rape with if you are careful, I don't like that.WR I hate because of shackle, sometimes you make a perfect line and it doesn't work, sometimes you throw it like a braindead retard and it stuns in 90 degree angle. I hate it a lot.Sky is far too good. You probably just never played vs a good sky, all his faults, don't matter, when he can just fucking kill you because IF he has mana, he WILL kill you. Clarities, basi, bottle, wand, that's all he needs early, when he is extremely low on mana he just goes to base to heal, re-fill bottle, and also in the meantime he has a chance to PROPERLY look at the map to see a good lane for gank, go there and rape that lane too. His ulti cannot be dodged if he has a rod of atos (and he WILL get the rod of atos fast because he will fucking KILL you early), with sky slow and rod of atos you just almost stand still and watch yourself die, he can silence you too so there's nothing you can do to escape, if you don't have a bkb/eul you're dead, and chances are you won't get a bkb/eul because he will just permanently kill you before you get the chance to get even close to them. Far too good = far too lame for my taste.Es is a horrible 6slotted 1v1 vs a proper 6slotted carry 1v1, reason ? BKB. Say goodbye to your stuns. Then what's left is that carry having either evasion, or some immobilization vs you, and your es doesn't even do 1 dmg before he dies. Void for example, can kill es no matter what items es has, without receiving even 1 dmg from es if he just gets a bkb and the rest of the items according to what you have on es. Spoiler for Hiden: If you have ghost/eul he can go for a diffusal instead of a divine to disable them after he chronoes you, if you have blink and dodge his ult, he can just get a blink too instead of a divine cancel his ulti then blink at you and ulti you, if you have a refresher he gets one too instead of a divine, if you have 6 hearts, he goes bkb mom 3 divines buriza and kills you without any problems, if you have 5 hearts and butterfly he goes mom bkb 2 divines buriza mkb and you still die (I don't remember if void can miss in chrono without mkb or not, maybe he can't, but even if he can't he can still go mkb just for fun, because he still easily kills you), the point is there's nothing you can do, you die without even doing 1 damage to him.Also, praying for crits is no way to properly win a game trol. It works, but that's definetly not something you should be planning ahead for, that should only be used when there are no other options, otherwise if you just don't crit it's money pretty much wasted.Dagon 3 for example costs pretty much the same as buriza, and you are GUARANTEED to "hit" with it because no luck involved (if some bkb, wait it to expire, if some linken, tell ally to cancel it, if magic resistance, well, yea, but your crit suffers from armor too), from far safe distance, and it's not that big of a cooldown, also improves your mana pool for more spammings, and you can also upg it to lvl 5, yea, the dmg is a bit lower than crit, maybe a lot lower, but it is still guaranteed not luck dependant and also you don't have to be in melee range to do it = you are in a far safer position, + much easier buildup + before you get the level 3 you get levels 1 and 2, which you can use to kill with, obviously, again from safe position unlike melee-range-crystalys-crit-hit-praying, then more gold, then more upg, then more rape, you get the ideea.Suddenly long post, huh.Ive noticed that almost every single one of the heroes u were talking about has IF,always that IF.What IF it was the other way around ?About es as a 1v1er,ure talking about void who wins 99% of the 1v1s,and i said shaker is ONE OF THE BEST 1v1 heroes,and yet still ure assuming that void should get his items according to what shaker has,nevermind the shaker,hes got no brain,right ?Im not saying that shaker would win against void,but whats the point in going so much into explaining how would that matchup go,if void has best 1v1 spells around?Es would pound like 90% of the heroes without much of a problem.They got a bkb ? u go lothars,euls,blink,force,ghost,only 2 of those is enough,or even lothars only could do well,not to mention that it gives some minor dps increase too.Even refresher comes to mind in these cases.Also,u said how some of those heroes are boring,and now u say of the best,and most standard(boring) ways of playing heroes that ure playing all the time..U know its easy to play ta with deso,1 hitting low hp heroes,but why wouldnt u try it out with dazzle,or some other hero that isnt known as a carry.Once upon time,i basically carried a lost game out with kotl,bought mjollnir,mkb,buriza,necro travels and idk what was the 6th one,but it won me the game,not the wardbitch meka force pipe etc. kind of kotl which is as boring as playing legion.Troll as a hero has a lot of weaknesses,one of them being that 10% bash,easily kited hero,weak ranged form etc. but ive seen some people play it as a semi-carry slash support,getting medallion vlads and some other weird shit,whereas ure actually being just a lot of dps increase to ur main hard carry,by adding up damage,lifesteal,-armor and a ton of ASAgree about wr,but only partially,u can always get a blink/force to help u land those shackles.Also trolling the enemies by not actually letting them to kill u,even tho theyve got an incredible advantage is more interesting than actually turning the game around.I remember i used to go force blink phase meka euls ghost,and since it wasnt <40 mins mark,they couldnt kill me for 20 mins even tho theyve had a clear advantage.Medusa is far too squishy in the early game,thus people tend to gank her a lot,since shes basically a free kill,farming the lane,ulti or not,a 2-3 man gank is enough.Requires a lot of farm to be effective in fights.Sylla usually sucks in lane,since hes too squishy as well,thus others tend to focus u rather than ur ally,and theres not really much u can do before u get some levels.U can go woods,but that means less farm,less exp,open for ganks etc.Almost the same as medusa,requires some items to get rolling.Recent wisp nerf did mess him up quite a bit,but still hes quite a good hero.The ability to freely tp to a pushed lane for 12 sec which is enough for u to clear it,and then go back to the place where u came from safely,when theres no action around,is a priceless one,not to talk about his global presence,and enemies fearing a 2v1 or a 3v1 gank becoming a 2v3/3v3 is something no other hero can offer.And he aint that bad of a solo thanks to spirits,and with some decent items,he can do pretty well at picking off 70-80%hp heroes farming a lane by themselvesI can think of at least 50 heroes who can kill sky solo.Yes,he does dominate the midlane,he kills u,but ur teammates come,and what can he do ? Hope they aint got boots ? Sky is a perfect example of a hero wisp could exploit from.Sky kills u on the mid,and he lost at least 30-40% of his hp because of tanking creeps,any of ur spells,tower hits or w e,wisp tps in and sky cant do shit because his manapool is drained thanks to his retarded ulti,he has no hp,armor,escape mech,and he dies to a wisp.Ye luna aint that good of a carry,but nowadays shes played because of her ability to split push,farm at an insane rate,nice teamfight ulti etc. And she is neither op nor boring to play.Well,fuck,a post of ur post's length,i should really stop it here,altho i could teach u something more about this retarded game.
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