Submit your Myths for Special Episode 20! (Illusions)

[bukka]

Episode 20, as div.ide suggested, will be about illusions.

*If you already submitted an illusion myth in the Submit Your Myths topic you can resubmit them here again.

Spoiler for div.ide's suggestion:

You can try doing episode about illusions, focused mainly on what does and what does not work on them. Just to raise awarness of pubbers that their builds are often supremely retarded.

Episode could point out which passive skills are transfered to illusions (there are a few), wether illusions benefit from stats / raw damage / raw IAS / auras / orb effects / crits / evasion / cleave / maim, show a trick with illusions tanking roshan, I think I also recall someone suggesting myth about fatal bonds transfering vastly increased damage from illusions, some skills can one-shot illusions on sight (no, i'm not talking about obvious Stone Gaze and other purges), point out interactions of illusions with Transformation skills (again someone mentioned firefly illusions already)...

[div.ide]

As promised, here it goes.

Spoiler for "Myths!":

I let myself group myths into several categories. SPOILERCEPTION!

PASSIVE ITEM BONUSES ON ILLUSIONS

Spoiler for Hiden:

Any stats and raw armor bonuses from items like blademail are fully transferred to illusions.
*Applies to all bonuses from hero skills as well*

Illusions get bonus raw hp (and mana) from all Booster items and their upgrades.

Illusions get bonus raw damage from items like Divine rapier.

Illusions get raw Increased Attack Speed (IAS) bonus from items like hyperstone.
*Only bonus agility and some auras work*

Illusions can't use orbs, like Corruption from Stygian Desolator or any Lifesteal.
*In certain cases, Feedback from Diffusal Blade and frost attack from Eye of Skadi doesn't follow this rule*

Ranged illusions can break mana with Diffusal Blade.
*Visual and sound only create illusion of Feedback, full effect is exclusive only to melee illusions.*
Tryhard pun.

Ranged illusions maintain frost attack from Eye of Skadi (because it's not orb on ranged heroes).
*Melee illusions cannot achieve this, however*

All illusions benefit from Critical strikes and evasion from items like Crystalys or Butterfly.
*All Crit and Evasions sources apply, including hero passives*

Illusions benefit from bonus hp/mana regeneration from items like Perserverance.
*Regeneration can't be increased in any way beside increasing strenght or intelligence.*

Illusions can't Cleave with Battle Fury.
*Applies to hero passives as well*

Illusions maintain bonus Strength (and therfore health) from activated Armlet of Mordiggian, without suffering health degeneration.
*It can be very effective for Strenght illusion heroes like Chaos Knight*

Illusions can maim with Sange, Sange and Yasha, or Heaven's Halberd.

Damage block from Vanguard protects illusions.
*All damage reducing passives follow this rule*

Monkey King Bar's Truestrike works on illusions.
*Minibash however, is fake, and deals bonus damage only on ranged heroes*

Quick summary.

Illusions benefit from:
-Stats (str/agi/int) - special mention to Armlet
-Raw HP / mana from boosters
-Armor
-Crits and Evasion (Truestrike included)
-Melee Feedback
-Ranged Frost attack from Skadi

Illusions will not be granted any bonuses from:
-IAS items
-+dmg items
-All remaining orbs
-cleave
-Damage Block (vanguard and all passives)

ILLUSIONS AND AURAS

Spoiler for Hiden:

Illusions can carry any aura, and grant it's benefits to allies.
*Exceptions are Essence Aura and Heartstopper aura, which benefits are triggered*

Illusions can benefit from any aura.
*Auras leave fake buffs and visuals on illusions. Damage and armor will not increase, Lifesteal won't work either.*

Illusions can benefit from all Endurance auras, like Janggo.
tip: check for ms bonus from janggo, easiest to notice
*Other examples:  Inner beast, Centaur Khan Endirance aura, all Yasha buffs*

Illusion can carry Radiance AoE burn aura.
*It works fine since it is aura based as well.[/b]

Quick summary:
-Illusions carry all auras including less obvious ones like Radiance, except Essence and Hearstopper aura (triggered)
-Illusions will only benefit from Endurance aura based buffs.
-Any aura-oriented visuals on illusions are fake.

ILLUSIONS AND CERTAIN HERO ABILTIES

Spoiler for Hiden:

Illusions can bash with Void's Timelock or Slardar's Bash.
*Bash is fake, there is only visual. Cranium basher and Greater bash will never work on illusions.*

Conuter Helix on works completely on Axe's illusions.
Centaur's illusions Return damage when attacked.
*Returned damage, however, is reduced according to illusion Damage Reducion, unlike in Helix case.*

Goblin's greed allows illusions to generate bonus gold, however counter is independant from main hero.

Transformed (Example: Shapeshifted Lycan) heroes will spawn transformed illusions via illusion rune.

Manta Style will dispel all timed transformations (except Chemical Rage) before spawning illusions, unless shiftqueued right after using transformation.

Will batrider's illusions have permanent firefly(not the flame but the ability to go thru cliffs and stuff like that) if you are using batriders firefly when you take illusion rune?
- Looks really funny with scouting and stuff =)))

Ursas illusions will not increase Fury Swipes buff counter. However, they can refresh buff duration, and deal bonus damage based on current counter (unreduced).

All toggleable transformations, like Troll Warlord's Berserker rage keep it's benefits on illusions from any source.
*Other heroes are Syllabear and Medusa*

TIPS AND TRICKS WITH ILLUSIONS

Spoiler for Hiden:

Issuing Move command on Roshan will prevent illusions from disappearing instantly
*You can use them to tank Roshan for you*

You can not take agro from creeps when u put attack on illusions

You can use manta with courier if u have mana(from bloodstone or soul booster)... Useless but fun!

Druids bear can use manta if he has mana(Bloodstone or soul booster).

Voids illuisons can move and attack under chronosphere...

Using manta with windrunner after using ulti on some1 her ulti continues if you don't change the target...

Using manta with luna after using ulti the sentinel(at least I think it's called sentinel xD ) over her head dissapears so they can't tell by your ulti which one is not an illusion...(I think I've posted this already but nvm)

Mirror image (applies also to Manta Style) can dodge Thrall's Glimpse.

*Only if relocation happens during split time.*

Razor will get bonus damage if he casts Static Link on enemy illusions.

I'd turn this one into:

Certain abilties like Static link will instantly kill illusions
*Other examples: Hex, Mana drain (After 1 second), Life drain*
Just to make it bit more informative. Yeah I like excess of info

If warlock uses fatal bonds on some1 and there are illusions in that bond you can deal greater dmg to the hero(es) by attacking illusions cause illusions recieve more dmg...

Illusions don't take increased damage from hp removal, like Heartstopper aura.
*Other examples: Wave of terror, Urn of Shadows (nuke), Nightmare*

Using Manta Style or Mirror Image close to cliff around Roshan's den will reveal it for a moment
*It's because Mirror image grants flying vision during split time.*

I let myself quote some myths submitted by others (RELAX, nicknames included ).
Whole compilation covers both some fairly generic info (which most players still lack) as well as more complex stuff. Pick your favourites.
WARNING post may evolve as I might add some myths rearding toggleable transformations interacting with illusions.

Oh, also kept some facts false, so you actually had to check them

E: Updated myth about transformations, as I remembered one useful trick. Also added another Manta trick in tips and tricks section.

[[kosarkas]]

good one divide now I don't know if morphs ulti is considered as illusion(it can't attack rosh so I guess it can be)

If morph copies alchemist he will have bonus gold income if alch has leveled goblins greed (a very good way to farm with morph as he is an item dependant hero)...

Rikis illusions will deal dmg from backstab

[div.ide]

good one divide now I don't know if morphs ulti is considered as illusion(it can't attack rosh so I guess it can be)

If morph copies alchemist he will have bonus gold income if alch has leveled goblins greed (a very good way to farm with morph as he is an item dependant hero)...

Rikis illusions will deal dmg from backstab

Yes, it's a "full time" illusion with all its consequences Note that Alchemists illusion has to get the last hit to make greed work if you copy him as Morph (still you got it right).

Gonna add a couple of myths to my list soon, concerning ursa, toggled transformations, and perhaps, a couple of skills using hp removal. DONE.

[Steccky]

Magnataur's empower splash damage works on illusions.

[[kosarkas]]

Hmmm I think you have to last hit with alch but not 100% sure...don't remember cause I havn't played morph in a while...


Nevermores illusions get bonus dmg from necromansery if the illusion does the last hit...(the counter starts from 0 i think)

[div.ide]

Hmmm I think you have to last hit with alch but not 100% sure

Alchemists illusion has to get the last hit to make greed work

I'm pretty sure this part is correct. So, unless Alch has Radiance, you might have hard time abusing this, cause poor base dmg + reduction on illusion won't hurt much.

[[kosarkas]]

If u use manta with yurnero after using blade fury you will lose the visual effect of blade fury but you will still do dmg...(but you will not have spell immunity)

And you can try the myth that I posted earlier about Shadow Demon : If you Make illusions from an enemy hero and have dd stored in bottle, after using it the illusions will also have dd...

[Juggernaut99]

Illusions will get double damage rune if they are in an aoe of 600 around you.

AA ultimate doesn't damage illusions.

You can dominate illusions with enchantres' enchant.

Illusions crit less than hero.

[Steccky]

Axe's illusions will deal damage with counter helix. 

[[kosarkas]]

Don't know if divide posted this Terrorblade can swap health with illusions...

[Steccky]

Illusions cannot be pounced.

If you agree with last two myths of mine,please but them both.

[[kosarkas]]

Kunkka's and Gondar's(can't remember if there are more) illusions dont have visual effects of their passives so you can easily see which is the real one...

If naix enters an illusion enchnatress can dominate it and chen send it to the base xD

[div.ide]

Kunkka's and Gondar's(can't remember if there are more) illusions dont have visual effects of their passives so you can easily see which is the real one...

If naix enters an illusion enchnatress can dominate it and chen send it to the base xD

... Invoker? Optionally Tide, but before you deal enough damage to trigger kraken, you'll probably know it's illusion

Axe's illusions will deal damage with counter helix. 

Bummer, I posted it already...

Ok, staying on topic.

Morphling's replicate can be converted by Enchantress' Enchant, but even after that Morphling can morph into it.

Illusions of transformed (by timed transformations) heroes won't transform back, even if original hero will. Therefore, abusing this, replicated Alchemist might 1v1 it's original sucesfully At least until he gets fed.

[[kosarkas]]

If you use metamorph with terrorblade and then manta you will not see the time left until you transform back...