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Title: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 22:19
I didnt notice that someone choose this hero for strategy discussion so i decided to start the topic cause its a hero i like and enjoy to play so here it is:
Skill choose-my skill choose is silence,orb,silence,orb,silence,ulti,silence,orb etc
and items to play is more important to hear from someone,cause i tried lot od different item builds and my favourite is treads,shiva,mkb,but used to play sometimes with orhid,treads,dagon,linken which is also good,and i wanna hear ur opinion for some other item build that work good on puck
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: Melissa on June 08, 2011, 22:25
skill

(noseepuck)skill
orb
silence
silence
orb
ulty
silence
orb
etc :D


build

start with some 53gold item heal and tangos

bottle , boots , dagger , this hp item 2x or 1x:D

bottle boots dagger forcestaff hex

bottle travell boots dagger forcestaff hex shiva

travell dagger force hex shiva random item :D
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 22:28
bottle boots dagger forcestaff hex shiva
i could try this tactic next time,never tried it so ty for ur reply
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: mathtt on June 08, 2011, 22:28
Puck needs shift at first lvl (stun evasion, etc) , them max orb with silence. For items (boots, bottle, necro3/dagger, later hex) for gankers, pt+hex+dagger+hp items is also very efficient. Dagon isn't good for this server where in >60% of games you play against some dumb players who pick late heroes with lots of hp like bara and ur teammates are not good at ganking =>waste of time. Necro 3 + hex can kill almost any hero with any items, especially if u play rex/puck.
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 22:30
never tried with shift from veggining cause have orb and can escape but mb i'll listen to ur advice as well,cause wanna try something different with thath hero,as i said enjoy playin it so tnx for advice too
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: mathtt on June 08, 2011, 22:31
as Melissa noticed forcestaff is quite imba (haven't tried yet) you can use it with ult combo (ult + force staff = double stun+damage+time for hitting :D)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: mathtt on June 08, 2011, 22:32
never tried with shift from veggining cause have orb and can escape but mb i'll listen to ur advice as well,cause wanna try something different with thath hero,as i said enjoy playin it so tnx for advice too

and im going to try orchid build :D
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 22:32
y ,y its kinda imba and very interesting for play as well i guess :)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: joyjoy on June 08, 2011, 22:33
one lvl of shift needed to dodge spells on 2nd or 3rd then max orb and silence and ulty if available
items same as Melissa ... dagger imba and force staff is good but you can skip it if on good way and you can build shiva or hex ;)
if on run try mind trick on enemy with orb run one direction and cast orb on the other side and then you can confuse him he dunno if to run after you or go in orb direction, on his decision you make yours and run away, with dagger its easier and more variable ;)
btw a lot of targeted spells are dodgeable by shift even ulties like laguna blade but you have to be quick or have it on autocast ;)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: Rocka on June 08, 2011, 22:33
bottle pt Dagger linken ulti staff hex
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 22:34
orhid is god if they got havy spellcasters in team so after silence/2nd skill) u can use another one  + u got dmg and mana regen,and i like puck to be killer so orhid is good choice if u ask me :)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: Rocka on June 08, 2011, 22:37
puck killer? lol there are WAY better killers
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: joyjoy on June 08, 2011, 22:38
orhid is god if they got havy spellcasters in team so after silence/2nd skill) u can use another one  + u got dmg and mana regen,and i like puck to be killer so orhid is good choice if u ask me :)
in case against more caster as you said hex or shiva better in normal game, hex if some carry or aoe beast to take him of fight and shiva in push and aoe strategy, also rockafella give linken its good to but in normal games shift is enough take it unless some nasty spell initatior targeting you cause you are initatior with aoe spells ;)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 22:39
thats true,but i like to make killef of him,thats why my fav item build is with mkb,such heroes that i like to play i try to do lot of things,tried 1 time with HoT vanguard,shiva etc as tank,so dont be surprised by this xD
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: joyjoy on June 08, 2011, 22:41
thats true,but i like to make killef of him,thats why my fav item build is with mkb,such heroes that i like to play i try to do lot of things,tried 1 time with HoT vanguard,shiva etc as tank,so dont be surprised by this xD
oh my, making from every hero carry ;D
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 22:47
so after bot come b,i'll try that build with force stuff and dagger,never tried it so i guess it will be nice to try something new,hope they wont pwn me xD :)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: LexMonster on June 08, 2011, 22:47
Dagon 5th lvl ftw!
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: joyjoy on June 08, 2011, 22:53
so after bot come b,i'll try that build with force stuff and dagger,never tried it so i guess it will be nice to try something new,hope they wont pwn me xD :)
for first time maybe :D its a bit hard to handle this items with these skill set that is even self hard to use properly, but if you played the spells well it will be ok, just to know what you can do with dagger or staff, initiate as fast and hard and escape ;)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 22:57
the only problem can be cause there is lot of things to do,skills + clickable items,but i guess after u get into it,its not problem.. same like when u play with orhid and shiva together :)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: joyjoy on June 08, 2011, 23:00
the only problem can be cause there is lot of things to do,skills + clickable items,but i guess after u get into it,its not problem.. same like when u play with orhid and shiva together :)
yy
4 active skills (3 if autocast) and dagger, hex, shiva, FS, and its enough to have 2 of them like dagger and staff its hardcore to make right and fast clicks to make aoe fear of you or escape easily  :D
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 23:04
y,cause force and dagger is different,anbd lit bit harder than shiva and orchid cause shiva is aoe just need good orb to enter there and orhid is focus,but with those 2 items its easy to catch someone but i guess if they run to u with everything u feel some preassure when trying to escape with force or dagger
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: End on June 08, 2011, 23:05
I usually buy dagon for puck, not because I wanna steal but because I don't know what else to buy and because I play her like 2 times a year :D
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: joyjoy on June 08, 2011, 23:06
I usually buy dagon for puck, not because I wanna steal but because I don't know what else to buy and because I play her like 2 times a year :D
dagon nice in pub stomping so here be pleased to use it ;D
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: 1950_Crna_Rupa on June 08, 2011, 23:07
y,ppl dont like to play puck..hard to see him in games..
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: joyjoy on June 08, 2011, 23:16
puck is for competitive games cause you need team to communicate, ofc you can pick him here but it will be 50% of puck cause to play to full you need to be i contact when to strike and when not etc...
thats why here most ppl plays carries and gankers even supporters are here backed
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: DatFace on June 21, 2011, 22:48
Ohh , i play
travel / dagger / shiva / linken's / aghanim's / hex or BM in some really hard situation's ..
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: UNBANMEHPLX on June 21, 2011, 23:15
starting items atleast for me null,circlet,3 branches , tangos  , later on geting bottle , boots > pt  , then either linkens if ganks r good and got loads of farms or dagger if its rly necessary  and pretymuch game ended
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: mammed on June 22, 2011, 01:52
best strategy ever for puck :

nobina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaBV-6VKngQ#)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: UNBANMEHPLX on June 22, 2011, 02:29
blackeye my idol
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: Srbin on June 22, 2011, 07:33
hahahahaha what the retard, with puck he show his low IQ!
i bet $10 if he have 50 IQ
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: Srbin on June 22, 2011, 07:44
+noob of strategyes , u can build whatever u want, its mean on what look like game, and what of combos u will make, that mean u have more that 100 combiantions per game!
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: chelom on July 22, 2011, 08:51
my skill build with puck is
orb
phase
orb
silence
orb
ulti
orb
silence
silence
.
 In the skill build u can max silence before orb since its more usefull. but orb is better as harrasing so it depends i almost always go for orb tho.


For starting items i go wand, 2 branches, 2 claritys a set of tangos a salve. If needed upgrade wand or sell them after a while. my core is boots then str treads, bottle, 1or2 bracers, dagger, then hex or shivas or any high lvl item my teams seems to need. Really love this hero especially cause of his mobiliy, also is very good at entering and scaping from fights when u max shift u can dagger just after shift ends but ofc no lagg is esencial for this.
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: marcelcamataru on July 22, 2011, 11:14
I personally love puck

my skill build is almost like everyones but varies from match to match.i dont have a constant skill build

i start with circlet.mantle of int,2 branches,tangoes and clarity potion
then i make magic stick,null talisman(rarely make a dagon of it),bottle,treads,aganims,orchid or guinso
when i get this items most of the times the game is over

never tried force staff,travels,shiva,dager on puck..but they could be good

obviously you can make whatever items you feel that would be good in that particulary match


most of the players dont play puck or other int heroes because they are harder to play..they almost every time chose agi or str heroes
i think i never saw a public match on pd without one of these heroes: bara , huskar , riki , troll , mort. :(
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: joyjoy on July 22, 2011, 12:39
I personally love puck

my skill build is almost like everyones but varies from match to match.i dont have a constant skill build

i start with circlet.mantle of int,2 branches,tangoes and clarity potion
then i make magic stick,null talisman(rarely make a dagon of it),bottle,treads,aganims,orchid or guinso
when i get this items most of the times the game is over

never tried force staff,travels,shiva,dager on puck..but they could be good

obviously you can make whatever items you feel that would be good in that particulary match


most of the players dont play puck or other int heroes because they are harder to play..they almost every time chose agi or str heroes
i think i never saw a public match on pd without one of these heroes: bara , huskar , riki , troll , mort. :(

indeed in every game these heroes are, ffs there are better heroes then that ;D but hard to play agree, as me I play usually int heroes or gankers, cause they are very valuable and more funny then mindless farming for carries and repeated strategies :D

btw try the dagger its very cool you jump in and out and out our further in and FS is good for pushing some1 out your ulty for stun or into it 8)
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: basshunterDOTA on July 22, 2011, 12:59
noobs

IMHO this is the best strategy for puck.
IMO noobs only can open topic like this and post a strategy comments for noobs.
strategy is in the game nigga
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: HotBarbecuesBack on July 22, 2011, 13:34
ok then give us your PD.eu account, we gonna check your pro strategy this weekend.

And remove the "H" when you say "IMHO", you seem to be missing the point of humbleness.
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: basshunterDOTA on July 22, 2011, 14:39
ok then give us your PD.eu account, we gonna check your pro strategy this weekend.`
don.dzony, this weekend i have much disconnected games, because i have internet problem.
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And remove the "H" when you say "IMHO", you seem to be missing the point of humbleness.
ok
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: marcelcamataru on July 23, 2011, 22:16
Why would you make Force Staff on Puke when nabs dont know about the second stun and try to run? :-\
Title: Re: Strategy for Puck
Post by: Melissa on July 24, 2011, 00:25
bcs its imba on puck ?