Complaint/Suggestions About Tours

[BrownTygeR]

Hi guys TygeR here(Mostly known as Qell_Buraa) i joined some tours at the Troll Madness Event #2 and imo the tours were good overall but there are some things that needs to be discussed.

So i didnt join the dota tours, i joined only cg tours and team based tours were good but lets talk about the Uther Party tour.

http://lagabuse.com/stats/game/5114972

1) So 16 players joined the tour which means 2 different game rooms. Players got disconnected from the game from both game rooms, no rmk was made. I know you cant know if its a rageplug or something but i think if some1 drops a rmk should be made. Like 1.5 year ago i joined a Uther Party tour which ebnet staff made and some1 got dced, we did do a rmk cause thats the way it should be done, or at least a vote for rmk ingame should be done.

2) The game owner status must not be given to retarded fucks.

00:25   qweasdzxcr   [All]   .latency 80
00:25      [All]   Setting game latency to the minimum of 80 ms.

00:34   qweasdzxcr   [All]   .synclimit 120
00:34      [All]   Setting sync limit to 120 packets.

05:10   YaphetS   [All]   phone
05:11   YaphetS   [All]   pls 1 min
05:12   Turbo_Eniak   [All]   FU
05:13   trakout   [All]   liar
05:15   qweasdzxcr   [All]   no
05:16   i_like_dat   [All]   y are dead
05:17   HearMeR0ar   [All]   liar liar
05:17   YaphetS   [All]   pls
05:18   HearMeR0ar   [All]   pants on fire
05:19   YaphetS   [All]   1 min
05:19   qweasdzxcr   [All]   we cant wait
05:21   trakout   [All]   smok n weed
05:23   HearMeR0ar   [All]   wait
05:24   YaphetS   [All]   ty
05:25   YaphetS   [All]   pls
05:26   YaphetS   [All]   1
05:27   YaphetS   [All]   min
05:29   HearMeR0ar   [All]   he made my day
05:29   HearMeR0ar   [All]   again
05:29   i_like_dat   [All]   u are dead now wtf
05:29   trakout   [All]   DONT
05:29   trakout   [All]   DROP
05:29   qweasdzxcr   [All]   i wont wait
05:29   trakout   [All]   OR DIE
05:29   HearMeR0ar   [All]   allah
05:29   Turbo_Eniak   [All]   waiting for him to join, for him to turn of hotkeys, for him to answer the fucking phone
05:29   qweasdzxcr   [All]   y
05:29   qweasdzxcr   [All]   turbo right
05:29   qweasdzxcr   [All]   we wont wait u
05:29      [All]   BrownTygeR was unrecoverably dropped from GProxy++.
05:30   qweasdzxcr   [All]   more

Ok i got unrecoverably dropped(fatal error) but it doesnt really matter, they would drop me anyway. The owner status was given to some random retarded guy so he just maxed sync and he was like "i wont wait" , "i dont wait".. Well fuck u random guy! Then dont join the damn tour, go play pubs and you wont wait. This is a goddam tour game.. When some1 lags/drops you have to wait you dumb fuck. There should be some kind of rules for these.

3)

08:19      [All]   kallsaddam has lost the connection (connection closed by remote host) but is using GProxy++ and may reconnect.
08:19   kallsaddam   [All]   Please wait for me to reconnect (334 seconds remain).
08:19   HearMeR0ar   [All]   dont
08:19   qweasdzxcr   [All]   zenci yarak
08:19      [All]   Player [kallsaddam] reconnected with GProxy++!
08:19   Turbo_Eniak   [All]   your mommy
08:20   HearMeR0ar   [All]   it is illegal
08:25   trakout   [All]   +
08:25   trakout   [All]   +-
08:25   trakout   [All]   +-
08:25   HearMeR0ar   [All]   and the who falls
08:25   i_like_dat   [All]   .votekick kall

What in the name of fuck is this? Trying to votekick a player who lags in a fucking tour game? I repeat a fucking tour game. As i mentioned above there should be rules about these cases, ppl should know they are not playing in goddam pubs. There should be a rule topic rather than "Borad Info" imo. It should be named "Tour Game Rules For Dumb Fucks" 

So thats it, sry for flames. Peace out.

[Dr.[H]ouse]

1) So 16 players joined the tour which means 2 different game rooms. Players got disconnected from the game from both game rooms, no rmk was made. I know you cant know if its a rageplug or something but i think if some1 drops a rmk should be made. Like 1.5 year ago i joined a Uther Party tour which ebnet staff made and some1 got dced, we did do a rmk cause thats the way it should be done, or at least a vote for rmk ingame should be done.

Did you even mentioned ( Explained the situation ) to any mod to do a remake ?

2) The game owner status must not be given to retarded fucks.

Ok i got unrecoverably dropped(fatal error) but it doesnt really matter, they would drop me anyway. The owner status was given to some random retarded guy so he just maxed sync and he was like "i wont wait" , "i dont wait".. Well fuck u random guy! Then dont join the damn tour, go play pubs and you wont wait. This is a goddam tour game.. When some1 lags/drops you have to wait you dumb fuck. There should be some kind of rules for these.

You're saying that I or any other mod. should personaly know every player that comes at tour?!
Yes maybe you droped cause of his stupidity... you could've simply report that guy firstly at Tour Mod.. Than if it's needed Ban Section is always there for any kind of power abuse or rule breaking.

3)What in the name of fuck is this? Trying to votekick a player who lags in a fucking tour game? I repeat a fucking tour game. As i mentioned above there should be rules about these cases, ppl should know they are not playing in goddam pubs. There should be a rule topic rather than "Borad Info" imo. It should be named "Tour Game Rules For Dumb Fucks" 

So thats it, sry for flames. Peace out.

LA Tournament Board INFO
In case you didn't saw it.
Cheers.

[GREED]

i feel a bit responsible here, bcs i gave owner away in both games to players on slot 1.  Regardless, u had fatal error which is unpredictable event. In Dota tours we have set rules for rmk, but we didnt set up any rule for ffa cgames.


I knew you and dread^lord had dc in that tour.

There was similar situations before,and in most cases "fatal error" wasnt true reason for dc. As i said to you on tour,some players are rather unfair and tend to abuse rules and bot commands.
 Several times a player DC-ed (voluntarily) after a poor start, and then : " If any player gets dropped before 5th minute (and First Blood didn't happen/no tower were destroyed/no Roshan has been killed) the game must be remade. In other cases rmking game depends of arrangement of both teams. "

From my experience only abuse happens, but in case such as your no one wants to rmk, bcs you were in lead.

Since a lot of players left to other games, we were focused more on quantity rather on quality of players in tours. Given this, you cant even expect common sense rules to be followed without flame and someones dissatisfaction.

[BrownTygeR]

Did you even mentioned ( Explained the situation ) to any mod to do a remake ?

Yes i did and he said we cant rmk.

You're saying that I or any other mod. should personaly know every player that comes at tour?!
Yes maybe you droped cause of his stupidity... you could've simply report that guy firstly at Tour Mod.. Than if it's needed Ban Section is always there for any kind of power abuse or rule breaking.

I did talk with Greed after i dced i told him i was going to open a topic in detail at forum.

LA Tournament Board INFO
In case you didn't saw it.
Cheers.

There should be a rule topic rather than "Borad Info" imo.

In case you didnt see it.

i feel a bit responsible here, bcs i gave owner away in both games to players on slot 1.  Regardless, u had fatal error which is unpredictable event. In Dota tours we have set rules for rmk, but we didnt set up any rule for ffa cgames.


I knew you and dread^lord had dc in that tour.

There was similar situations before,and in most cases "fatal error" wasnt true reason for dc. As i said to you on tour,some players are rather unfair and tend to abuse rules and bot commands.
 Several times a player DC-ed (voluntarily) after a poor start, and then : " If any player gets dropped before 5th minute (and First Blood didn't happen/no tower were destroyed/no Roshan has been killed) the game must be remade. In other cases rmking game depends of arrangement of both teams. "

From my experience only abuse happens, but in case such as your no one wants to rmk, bcs you were in lead.

Since a lot of players left to other games, we were focused more on quantity rather on quality of players in tours. Given this, you cant even expect common sense rules to be followed without flame and someones dissatisfaction.

No bro you dont need to feel responsible I opened this topic cause some1 had to do it. As i meantioned above i know that you cant rmk everygame but i was in the 1st place.. At least a rmk vote should be made ingame. Cheers

[cacomonster]

I am oufo


Btw in my Uther Party Game.. When Dread Dced .. i Tried to ask for rmk .. but They just Unpaused and kept playing.

03:52   oufo   [All]   
04:05   oufo   [All]   WAIT
04:10   oufo   [All]   rmk for dread?
04:14   TheNameJin   [All]   No

and then they unpaused.

[cacomonster]

Oh .. and when i used Sync he was Dead. in game in that round. ..


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[Bart]

u are right quell ) hi btw. ;p

but lets focus at these creatures- tour mods who are still motivated, put an effort, make tours up to this date, when xpam is pretty much dead, and less and less people plays, but they are still here, and u can play all kinds of tours gj to you.

keep it up as long as u are happy doing it

[BrownTygeR]

Hi Bart sup?

As i said above tours are good, real good but there should be rules at least for ffa cg tours cause im not really thinking of joining tours again if i face this kind of behaviour again

[Bart]

quite good )


i understand you completely, that non-dota tours dont have clear rules, and in ur situation rmk should be done since it was uther party and u were leading lol.

its good to point up those things so it wont happen again, however 2people cant handle 16 sometimes in those occasions so be considerate )